Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 23:42     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Maybe MITRE should split into 2 companies, one with the DoD/IC business and the second the other government business. They already are separate business inits. Even in labs, most people work in one of those two or the other -- not both. Repeat the split of 25-30 years ago.
Are the layoffs hitting one but not the other? The split 30yo was a split of the non dod side, iirc.
non dod, but also non-FFRDC. Since the split, MITRE's Civil work is FFRDC. And, yes, the vast majority of the RIFs have been Civil. That said, assume there were two companies - dod and nondod - the dod company would have had say 5% RIF/slowed hiring, the non DoD would have 60%. That is, the cuts would have happened, they just wouldn't have been attributed to a company called MITRE.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 22:41     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Constructive discharge is an employment law concept where an employee's resignation is treated as an involuntary termination because the employer created working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would have been forced to quit.

https://spigglelaw.com/constructive-discharge-what-you-need-to-know/
The FFRDC I worked for shouldn't have hired me because they should have anticipated that the Federal Government was going to be taken over by a bunch of arsonists. Good luck with that.


Management's job is to hedge against political risks rather than putting all the chips on AI x-risk... in the final years of the declining Biden presidency, only to be shocked by the outcome of Trump's reelection.
So, during the Biden admin, the HHS/CMS FFRDC should have refused to accept any work that doesn't prove vaccines cause autism, the Treasury FFRDC should have insisted on supporting systems to send tax data to Homeland Security, the DOD FFRDCs should have refused any work that didn't support tracking the political leanings of each employee while counting whether they're doing their pushups, ...


RAND shouldn’t have been helping the Biden administration draft an EO and then publish public comments on related agency rule changes using money from private donors.


Seems far-fetched.


https://www.foxnews.com/politics/meet-ex-biden-appointee-who-could-be-major-force-against-trumps-ai-agenda-doomsayer

https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA3379-2.html
https://www.rand.org/pubs/perspectives/PEA3246-1.html

Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 20:50     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Constructive discharge is an employment law concept where an employee's resignation is treated as an involuntary termination because the employer created working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would have been forced to quit.

https://spigglelaw.com/constructive-discharge-what-you-need-to-know/
The FFRDC I worked for shouldn't have hired me because they should have anticipated that the Federal Government was going to be taken over by a bunch of arsonists. Good luck with that.


Management's job is to hedge against political risks rather than putting all the chips on AI x-risk... in the final years of the declining Biden presidency, only to be shocked by the outcome of Trump's reelection.
So, during the Biden admin, the HHS/CMS FFRDC should have refused to accept any work that doesn't prove vaccines cause autism, the Treasury FFRDC should have insisted on supporting systems to send tax data to Homeland Security, the DOD FFRDCs should have refused any work that didn't support tracking the political leanings of each employee while counting whether they're doing their pushups, ...


RAND shouldn’t have been helping the Biden administration draft an EO and then publish public comments on related agency rule changes using money from private donors.


Seems far-fetched.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 20:42     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:Maybe MITRE should split into 2 companies, one with the DoD/IC business and the second the other government business. They already are separate business inits. Even in labs, most people work in one of those two or the other -- not both. Repeat the split of 25-30 years ago.
Are the layoffs hitting one but not the other? The split 30yo was a split of the non dod side, iirc.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 20:25     Subject: FFRDCs
Maybe MITRE should split into 2 companies, one with the DoD/IC business and the second the other government business. They already are separate business inits. Even in labs, most people work in one of those two or the other -- not both. Repeat the split of 25-30 years ago.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 16:10     Subject: FFRDCs
The mitre layoffs were rolling across the week, public sector hit bad. Yes, the numbers are correct.

Management continues to claim hssedi idiq imminent so they can hang onto their jobs for a few months more.
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 11:04     Subject: FFRDCs
Were there really 500 employees laid off at MITRE on Monday??
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 01:54     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:What’s happening at CNA?


IPR's work slowed down but the FFRDC is going fine
Anonymous
Post 10/08/2025 00:14     Subject: FFRDCs
What’s happening at CNA?
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 13:20     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Constructive discharge is an employment law concept where an employee's resignation is treated as an involuntary termination because the employer created working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would have been forced to quit.

https://spigglelaw.com/constructive-discharge-what-you-need-to-know/
The FFRDC I worked for shouldn't have hired me because they should have anticipated that the Federal Government was going to be taken over by a bunch of arsonists. Good luck with that.


Management's job is to hedge against political risks rather than putting all the chips on AI x-risk... in the final years of the declining Biden presidency, only to be shocked by the outcome of Trump's reelection.
So, during the Biden admin, the HHS/CMS FFRDC should have refused to accept any work that doesn't prove vaccines cause autism, the Treasury FFRDC should have insisted on supporting systems to send tax data to Homeland Security, the DOD FFRDCs should have refused any work that didn't support tracking the political leanings of each employee while counting whether they're doing their pushups, ...


RAND shouldn’t have been helping the Biden administration draft an EO and then publish public comments on related agency rule changes using money from private donors.
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 12:14     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Constructive discharge is an employment law concept where an employee's resignation is treated as an involuntary termination because the employer created working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would have been forced to quit.

https://spigglelaw.com/constructive-discharge-what-you-need-to-know/
The FFRDC I worked for shouldn't have hired me because they should have anticipated that the Federal Government was going to be taken over by a bunch of arsonists. Good luck with that.


Management's job is to hedge against political risks rather than putting all the chips on AI x-risk... in the final years of the declining Biden presidency, only to be shocked by the outcome of Trump's reelection.
So, during the Biden admin, the HHS/CMS FFRDC should have refused to accept any work that doesn't prove vaccines cause autism, the Treasury FFRDC should have insisted on supporting systems to send tax data to Homeland Security, the DOD FFRDCs should have refused any work that didn't support tracking the political leanings of each employee while counting whether they're doing their pushups, ...
Anonymous
Post 10/07/2025 06:16     Subject: FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Constructive discharge is an employment law concept where an employee's resignation is treated as an involuntary termination because the employer created working conditions so intolerable that a reasonable person would have been forced to quit.

https://spigglelaw.com/constructive-discharge-what-you-need-to-know/
The FFRDC I worked for shouldn't have hired me because they should have anticipated that the Federal Government was going to be taken over by a bunch of arsonists. Good luck with that.


Management's job is to hedge against political risks rather than putting all the chips on AI x-risk... in the final years of the declining Biden presidency, only to be shocked by the outcome of Trump's reelection.
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2025 21:03     Subject: Re:FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:MITRE layoffs are supposedly happening today. I know someone who received an email invite over the weekend to meet today with HR and the manager of that person’s manager. Pretty crappy way to handle this.


What is the “good” way to do it? Everyone knew it was coming. I’m a govvie and I lost one of my Mitre people today - being on a contract didn’t necessarily protect you. I presume they’ll be replaced by someone with more time in/better skills match, etc. It’s sad - we don’t get to say goodbye.


Perhaps by not sending such an email over the weekend and waiting until Monday morning.

Anonymous
Post 10/06/2025 19:42     Subject: FFRDCs
Rumor is that RAND is preparing a big RIF soon. Any word on when that will occur?
Anonymous
Post 10/06/2025 18:35     Subject: Re:FFRDCs
Anonymous wrote:MITRE layoffs are supposedly happening today. I know someone who received an email invite over the weekend to meet today with HR and the manager of that person’s manager. Pretty crappy way to handle this.


What is the “good” way to do it? Everyone knew it was coming. I’m a govvie and I lost one of my Mitre people today - being on a contract didn’t necessarily protect you. I presume they’ll be replaced by someone with more time in/better skills match, etc. It’s sad - we don’t get to say goodbye.