Can you name one of these magical clubs around here or has all your selling a monorail grade thing for youth soccer been a hoax?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
Who cares? Not commuting to the Midwest. This is the DMV area. Any clubs here?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You simply do not know what you are talking about. The kids are not given an option. Period.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
You make it sound like the kids are choosing to play down out of their SY. I have not talked to a single person who was given this option. There is not a glut of kids purposely playing down to dominate at a younger age. Just stop.
Literally go on any social media other than DCUM and you'll see that most clubs let parents choose if they want to play on the cirrect grade in school team.
Most parents choose the correct grade team for their kid.
Your kid suffers when you ask the club for special accommodations and they kick you out, in May when tryouts are over. Seen it multiple times.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Seems like an unnecessary risk without actually having a back up team that will definitely allow playing up in the DMV for their top clubs. Have one?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
Families that try to pull these stunts get banned from clubs and word travels around here.
Live in fear if you want. Your kid will suffer when its time to get recruited and play in college. But your club will get all kinds of plastic trophies when they're young.
Some clubs do for the older age group. Based on a post a few days ago, ECNL and USYS are talking about putting in the new rule next fall or it was tabled to be started Fall 2027.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news. If you followed what someone wrote a few days ago, it sounds like showcases will go graduation year for the top few age groups by the time you child is older. Best of luck!Anonymous wrote:My DD made her u14 ECNL team she is born in July 2013 and now will be one of the youngest on the team. My problem is that she is still a 6th grader and will be a 7th grader in the fall. She will eventually have to play down? Is it at u17/u18??
Oh so the fact that she had a late start at school and now is playing a graduation year up will eventually be to her advantage meaning when time comes to perform at showcases she will have to play down. Ecnl allows that? Of course I'm assuming she will stay at that level. Is the same at GA?
No leagues allow playing down in showcases.
Sorry you held back your kid. Unfortunately now you have to suffer the consequences.
I always laugh at the different ways parents who hold back their kid describe it. "started school a little late" is the same thing as holding your kid back.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:You simply do not know what you are talking about. The kids are not given an option. Period.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
You make it sound like the kids are choosing to play down out of their SY. I have not talked to a single person who was given this option. There is not a glut of kids purposely playing down to dominate at a younger age. Just stop.
Literally go on any social media other than DCUM and you'll see that most clubs let parents choose if they want to play on the cirrect grade in school team.
Most parents choose the correct grade team for their kid.
Anonymous wrote:You simply do not know what you are talking about. The kids are not given an option. Period.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
You make it sound like the kids are choosing to play down out of their SY. I have not talked to a single person who was given this option. There is not a glut of kids purposely playing down to dominate at a younger age. Just stop.
Anonymous wrote:Seems like an unnecessary risk without actually having a back up team that will definitely allow playing up in the DMV for their top clubs. Have one?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
Families that try to pull these stunts get banned from clubs and word travels around here.
You simply do not know what you are talking about. The kids are not given an option. Period.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
Seems like an unnecessary risk without actually having a back up team that will definitely allow playing up in the DMV for their top clubs. Have one?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Any club.
Heres how the conversation goes. I want my Aug birthday kid to play on the correct grade in school team. If this doesn't happen we don't pay.
Magically your kid will be placed on a correct grade in school team.
Anonymous wrote:Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Good news. If you followed what someone wrote a few days ago, it sounds like showcases will go graduation year for the top few age groups by the time you child is older. Best of luck!Anonymous wrote:My DD made her u14 ECNL team she is born in July 2013 and now will be one of the youngest on the team. My problem is that she is still a 6th grader and will be a 7th grader in the fall. She will eventually have to play down? Is it at u17/u18??
Oh so the fact that she had a late start at school and now is playing a graduation year up will eventually be to her advantage meaning when time comes to perform at showcases she will have to play down. Ecnl allows that? Of course I'm assuming she will stay at that level. Is the same at GA?
Which club, and which years, since the rule change, is giving the kids a choice whether to play down or play up? Name the club so we can find this new unicorn club? You want to be helpful, tell us where we can go to not have to play down without a choice?Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:So just to be 1000% clear before age guy misinterprets what they're saying.
ECNLdude plans to roster Aug birthdays on grade down teams for league them play them grade correct (up) for showcases. This has NOTHING to do with older players playing down at showcases.
While this does address the alignment issue with college coaches. The problem is the player will be used to competing at a lower level. Then suddenly they'll be expected to play up at their correct grade level in front of college scouts. This is not a situation that typically ends well.
This is a hack so clubs will look good in league at Aug birthdays expense. Just play Aug birthdays on their correct grade in school team and you do t have to deal with all the nonsese and workarounds. And Aug birthdays wont get ignored by college coaches because they're playing on a grade down team.
He actually does cover playing grade down at showcases. This occurs the second year after the season when the Aug birthday who played up (on their correct grade level) in showcaees. In the next season they play in the same Showcase level again (down a grade). This lets them be seen 2x at the grade level (Sophmore) that recruiters are most interested in. Its kind of confusing and I agree with you that its much easier for clubs to play Aug birthdays at their correct grade level.
But whats the advantage? You might look better playing against younger players but you're playing on a grade down team and recruiters will ignore you at that point.
Not that Im advocating this but it would make more sense for an Aug birthday to play up on thier correct grade in school team. Then participate in sophmore showcases generating interest from college coaches. Then the next year when their Junior grade in school is playing in Junior level showcases. They play down in a Sophmore level Showcase again blowing everyone up because they're used to playing older and faster players.