Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:59     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:^^any responsible spouse would have been prepared for this eventuality.



This. Key word "responsible" vs vapid and self-absorbed.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:56     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A cardiologist weighs in
https://www.vulture.com/article/and-just-like-that-big-death-carrie-911-call.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR3jciAiXLQo3Olnh-Sc3BlxNoApS-4hHGezqogpDqd67xM6kyMsCeturn0


In conclusion, if Carrie had called 911 or started CPR, Big would have lived. Dating (and marrying) an idiot can have fatal consequences.


Holy cow. I mean, she should've -- absolutely -- but the success rate for CPR "range from an average of 12% for out-of-hospital cardiac arrests to 24–40% for in-hospital arrests." He had maybe a little bit better than a 1 in 10 chance of surviving.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/patients-overestimate-the-success-of-cpr/


You misunderstood. The first article is talking specifically about the medication that Big mentioned taking on the show, his lifestyle and the timing from when he first sent the text, to what is going on if he is still awake when she arrives. The conclusion that he would have lived is based on proximity to a hospital and that any EMT on the scene could have saved him. If Carrie had rushed to the medicine cabinet and given him one of his pills, she would have bought even more time for the EMTs to be successful but that’s a level of knowledge that’s unreasonable to expect.

Seriously, all she had to do was call 911 instead of stare lovingly into his eyes as he died.


It's paywalled, and it's not something I value enough to pay for. CPR *WITHIN* a hospital with advanced trained providers would be 24-40% survival, with the meds ready in a crash cart.

Sorry to disagree with the cardiologist who writes for -- what, Vulture? -- but this was no guarantee.

She still should have reacted better. Sometimes people don't do what they are supposed to, and sometimes shock and grief is debilitating.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:55     Subject: Re:SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

I always found it far-fetched that Big was longing for messy and broke (and let's be frank, not very pretty) Carrie so much that he divorced his wealthy heir young wife played by Bridget Moynahan. Bridget would have called 911.

Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:50     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A cardiologist weighs in
https://www.vulture.com/article/and-just-like-that-big-death-carrie-911-call.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR3jciAiXLQo3Olnh-Sc3BlxNoApS-4hHGezqogpDqd67xM6kyMsCeturn0


In conclusion, if Carrie had called 911 or started CPR, Big would have lived. Dating (and marrying) an idiot can have fatal consequences.



Well-said.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:45     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A cardiologist weighs in
https://www.vulture.com/article/and-just-like-that-big-death-carrie-911-call.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR3jciAiXLQo3Olnh-Sc3BlxNoApS-4hHGezqogpDqd67xM6kyMsCeturn0


In conclusion, if Carrie had called 911 or started CPR, Big would have lived. Dating (and marrying) an idiot can have fatal consequences.


Holy cow. I mean, she should've -- absolutely -- but the success rate for CPR "range from an average of 12% for out-of-hospital cardiac arrests to 24–40% for in-hospital arrests." He had maybe a little bit better than a 1 in 10 chance of surviving.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/patients-overestimate-the-success-of-cpr/


You misunderstood. The first article is talking specifically about the medication that Big mentioned taking on the show, his lifestyle and the timing from when he first sent the text, to what is going on if he is still awake when she arrives. The conclusion that he would have lived is based on proximity to a hospital and that any EMT on the scene could have saved him. If Carrie had rushed to the medicine cabinet and given him one of his pills, she would have bought even more time for the EMTs to be successful but that’s a level of knowledge that’s unreasonable to expect.

Seriously, all she had to do was call 911 instead of stare lovingly into his eyes as he died.

Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:42     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:I"m just worried they're going to go in a direction where Carrie is broke(ish) and has to do ridiculous job things (like the preview where the young producer says she has to get her socials up). She is insanely wealthy. It will not be believable to have her have to scrape by (with her fabulous shoe and wardrobe, natch).

I'm also turned off by the possibility of Natasha re-entering the story. Where in the world is that going to go?

I did mostly enjoy the two episodes - it felt more comfortable than I expected and I wanted to know more. I just hope they don't blow it (like the movies). These characters are beloved. Please don't make them entirely unlikeable and idiotic.


I mean, they have to have a plot and a story, and introducing entirely new characters isn't going to cut it. I think resolution with Natasha is an intriguing plot line. Natasha insults Carrie at lunch and you never see or hear anything about her again, which, considering their social circle, is unusual. I'm looking forward to that storyline.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 19:39     Subject: Re:SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:Well this thread sure did blow up considering all of the people who swore they weren’t interested in the reboot! I just caught the first 2 episodes. Maybe my expectations were low, but I actually enjoyed it. They definitely surpassed the 2 movies (a low bar, I know) and possibly the tail end of Season 6. Kim Cattrall would have been a nice addition, but I wouldn’t say I missed Samantha’s character. I surprisingly found myself liking the new characters, especially Miranda’s professor. I’ll definitely be tuning in for the remaining episodes. Til next week



I did/do miss Samantha, although I watched a few episodes of the original SATC Season 1 and the writers were pretty vicious to Samantha from the get go.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 18:33     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A cardiologist weighs in
https://www.vulture.com/article/and-just-like-that-big-death-carrie-911-call.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR3jciAiXLQo3Olnh-Sc3BlxNoApS-4hHGezqogpDqd67xM6kyMsCeturn0


In conclusion, if Carrie had called 911 or started CPR, Big would have lived. Dating (and marrying) an idiot can have fatal consequences.


Holy cow. I mean, she should've -- absolutely -- but the success rate for CPR "range from an average of 12% for out-of-hospital cardiac arrests to 24–40% for in-hospital arrests." He had maybe a little bit better than a 1 in 10 chance of surviving.

https://www.bmj.com/company/newsroom/patients-overestimate-the-success-of-cpr/
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 18:26     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:A cardiologist weighs in
https://www.vulture.com/article/and-just-like-that-big-death-carrie-911-call.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR3jciAiXLQo3Olnh-Sc3BlxNoApS-4hHGezqogpDqd67xM6kyMsCeturn0


In conclusion, if Carrie had called 911 or started CPR, Big would have lived. Dating (and marrying) an idiot can have fatal consequences.

Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 17:55     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:The groupthink hivemind behavior is so over the top on this thread. You aren't cool because you spend all day trashing this show. They are laughing all the way to the bank you nimrods.


We all know who the nimrod is. It isn't possible that intelligent people are writing this show.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 17:51     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

The groupthink hivemind behavior is so over the top on this thread. You aren't cool because you spend all day trashing this show. They are laughing all the way to the bank you nimrods.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 17:49     Subject: Re:SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well this thread sure did blow up considering all of the people who swore they weren’t interested in the reboot! I just caught the first 2 episodes. Maybe my expectations were low, but I actually enjoyed it. They definitely surpassed the 2 movies (a low bar, I know) and possibly the tail end of Season 6. Kim Cattrall would have been a nice addition, but I wouldn’t say I missed Samantha’s character. I surprisingly found myself liking the new characters, especially Miranda’s professor. I’ll definitely be tuning in for the remaining episodes. Til next week



Miranda's professor is like a caricature.


Nope. Miranda is like a caricature.

Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 17:47     Subject: Re:SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well this thread sure did blow up considering all of the people who swore they weren’t interested in the reboot! I just caught the first 2 episodes. Maybe my expectations were low, but I actually enjoyed it. They definitely surpassed the 2 movies (a low bar, I know) and possibly the tail end of Season 6. Kim Cattrall would have been a nice addition, but I wouldn’t say I missed Samantha’s character. I surprisingly found myself liking the new characters, especially Miranda’s professor. I’ll definitely be tuning in for the remaining episodes. Til next week



Miranda's professor is like a caricature.



Every.single.one.of.them is a caricature .
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 17:46     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:I"m just worried they're going to go in a direction where Carrie is broke(ish) and has to do ridiculous job things (like the preview where the young producer says she has to get her socials up). She is insanely wealthy. It will not be believable to have her have to scrape by (with her fabulous shoe and wardrobe, natch).

I'm also turned off by the possibility of Natasha re-entering the story. Where in the world is that going to go?

I did mostly enjoy the two episodes - it felt more comfortable than I expected and I wanted to know more. I just hope they don't blow it (like the movies). These characters are beloved. Please don't make them entirely unlikeable and idiotic.


The writers have already done a great job of exactly this. The scenes at the restaurant at the beginning of episode 1 was so bad but it made it clear what everyone is going to get from this series.

The writers sucked on the old show and it began to be beyond cringey and now they are even worse and more out of touch.Why did they not learn from the horrible movies and bring in someone with a critical eye to make this less cringey? Who are the out of touch idiots writing this crap? They were all so, I 'm struggling to describe it, but yuck.

My guess is this is pure SJP indulgence. Every sentence Carrie uttered was a humorless quip in that first restaurant scene in episode 1. It wasn't funny. It wasn't cute. She sounds stupid and self centered. It was a gang of screeching stereotypes trying to outdo one another. The search for the "hip" funeral home was also ridiculous and petty given what had happened. It's as if the writers actually hate these characters and have made them more vapid. Those horrible housewives shows are more interesting than this.
Anonymous
Post 12/13/2021 17:44     Subject: SATC New Season - And Just Like That...

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:A cardiologist weighs in
https://www.vulture.com/article/and-just-like-that-big-death-carrie-911-call.html?utm_source=fb&utm_medium=s1&utm_campaign=nym&fbclid=IwAR3jciAiXLQo3Olnh-Sc3BlxNoApS-4hHGezqogpDqd67xM6kyMsCeturn0

This is totally worth the read.


Agreed. And now I'm even more annoyed at AJLT!