Anonymous
08/14/2017 23:55
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:How does a "nationalist" put anyone down, 15:47, just because he calls himself a "nationalist"?
Nationalist = racist
According to whom?
That's not what Wikipedia says.
Anonymous
08/14/2017 23:53
Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous
08/14/2017 21:53
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
I predict the charges against Fields will be escalated, and he could be charged with capital murder. In Virginia, killing someone during an act or attempted act of terrorism is a capital offense. When charges were initially filed, it wasn't known if his acts were considered domestic terrorism. But now it's headed in that direction
Anonymous
08/14/2017 21:23
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:How does a "nationalist" put anyone down, 15:47, just because he calls himself a "nationalist"?
Nationalist = racist
Anonymous
08/14/2017 21:22
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Somewhere in this discussion, someone said that the "sovereign citizen" movement was a purely White racist movement. This is not true. There are many Blacks who also claim to be "sovereign citizens." The most prominent group is the Moorish Science Temple, but there are many others. I argued many cases against them, usually about their refusal to pay taxes because they say that they are not subject to American laws. Probably the most interesting case I had dealt with a White couple who came home after a trip and found their locks had been changed. They called the police, who broke in and arrested a Black man and wife who had claimed that they had the right to occupy White people's homes because their sovereignty predates that of Whites. I represented the police whom the people who were arrested sued, claiming that the police had unlawfully entered "a state of Moorish affairs."
Hmmm. Sure sounds like a white nationalist asshole group to me. Timothy McVeigh, the asshole who blew up a daycare center? They can all go to hell.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sovereign_citizen_movement
Anonymous
08/14/2017 21:03
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:How does a "nationalist" put anyone down, 15:47, just because he calls himself a "nationalist"?
In the context of "white nationalism," you will often hear "white nationalists" talk about how they built this country, that they are responsible for all innovation and building of capital in this country (i.e. that blacks, hispanics, women and other ethnicities did not make any significant or substantial contributions), how this country was founded and built due only to white europeans, and how "whites" want only to hold on to what they have (never mind that much of it was acquired on the backs of subjugated minorities and women).
This is the meaning of "nationalism" in white nationalism.
It doesn't align at all with historical reality. And, it is definitely about putting other races down in order to maintain the pre-eminence of whites.
Anonymous
08/14/2017 20:33
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
How does a "nationalist" put anyone down, 15:47, just because he calls himself a "nationalist"?
Anonymous
08/14/2017 20:28
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Somewhere in this discussion, someone said that the "sovereign citizen" movement was a purely White racist movement. This is not true. There are many Blacks who also claim to be "sovereign citizens." The most prominent group is the Moorish Science Temple, but there are many others. I argued many cases against them, usually about their refusal to pay taxes because they say that they are not subject to American laws. Probably the most interesting case I had dealt with a White couple who came home after a trip and found their locks had been changed. They called the police, who broke in and arrested a Black man and wife who had claimed that they had the right to occupy White people's homes because their sovereignty predates that of Whites. I represented the police whom the people who were arrested sued, claiming that the police had unlawfully entered "a state of Moorish affairs."
Wow! That is so interesting!
Anonymous
08/14/2017 15:47
Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You're quite skilled in selecting pictures that support your biases.
Looks pretty accurate to me.
-white person
Regardless of skin color, race, country of origin, we can all take pride in our worthwhile accomplishments and those of others. We can also make amends for our mistakes. That picture of so-called white pride represents the worst of our society.
How else do you see "white pride" celebrated?
St. Patrick's Day festivals?
Renaissance Festivals?
I am white but not of British descent. I do not identify with Ye olde Days.
I am not of british descent, and I enjoy ren faires. But they arent really pride things. Highland games, though, maybe are.
There's a pretty huge difference between celebrating one's own culture (highland games) versus putting other cultures down (white nationalism).
Please, let's not equate these.
Anonymous
08/14/2017 15:36
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Somewhere in this discussion, someone said that the "sovereign citizen" movement was a purely White racist movement. This is not true. There are many Blacks who also claim to be "sovereign citizens." The most prominent group is the Moorish Science Temple, but there are many others. I argued many cases against them, usually about their refusal to pay taxes because they say that they are not subject to American laws. Probably the most interesting case I had dealt with a White couple who came home after a trip and found their locks had been changed. They called the police, who broke in and arrested a Black man and wife who had claimed that they had the right to occupy White people's homes because their sovereignty predates that of Whites. I represented the police whom the people who were arrested sued, claiming that the police had unlawfully entered "a state of Moorish affairs."
I don't think anyone said "purely white racist movement" - they were referring to it as a brand of right wing extremism. And even though these particular people are black, the notions of not paying taxes and holding up whatever "natural law" notions is pretty typical across right wing circles.
Anonymous
08/14/2017 15:32
Subject: Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Somewhere in this discussion, someone said that the "sovereign citizen" movement was a purely White racist movement. This is not true. There are many Blacks who also claim to be "sovereign citizens." The most prominent group is the Moorish Science Temple, but there are many others. I argued many cases against them, usually about their refusal to pay taxes because they say that they are not subject to American laws. Probably the most interesting case I had dealt with a White couple who came home after a trip and found their locks had been changed. They called the police, who broke in and arrested a Black man and wife who had claimed that they had the right to occupy White people's homes because their sovereignty predates that of Whites. I represented the police whom the people who were arrested sued, claiming that the police had unlawfully entered "a state of Moorish affairs."
Anonymous
08/14/2017 12:32
Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You're quite skilled in selecting pictures that support your biases.
Looks pretty accurate to me.
-white person
Regardless of skin color, race, country of origin, we can all take pride in our worthwhile accomplishments and those of others. We can also make amends for our mistakes. That picture of so-called white pride represents the worst of our society.
True... while black pride was originally represented by a very exaggerated raised fist. -Native Washingtonian
No that was black power not black pride. Or was it the original black movement.
Anonymous
08/14/2017 12:30
Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
'Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You're quite skilled in selecting pictures that support your biases.
Looks pretty accurate to me.
-white person
Regardless of skin color, race, country of origin, we can all take pride in our worthwhile accomplishments and those of others. We can also make amends for our mistakes. That picture of so-called white pride represents the worst of our society.
True... while black pride was originally represented by a very exaggerated raised fist. -Native Washingtonian
Which tribe?
The Potomac #obvi
Anonymous
08/14/2017 12:27
Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You're quite skilled in selecting pictures that support your biases.
Looks pretty accurate to me.
-white person
Regardless of skin color, race, country of origin, we can all take pride in our worthwhile accomplishments and those of others. We can also make amends for our mistakes. That picture of so-called white pride represents the worst of our society.
True... while black pride was originally represented by a very exaggerated raised fist. -Native Washingtonian
Which tribe?
Anonymous
08/14/2017 12:09
Subject: Re:Radicalized White Nationalists in Virginia
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
You're quite skilled in selecting pictures that support your biases.
Looks pretty accurate to me.
-white person
Regardless of skin color, race, country of origin, we can all take pride in our worthwhile accomplishments and those of others. We can also make amends for our mistakes. That picture of so-called white pride represents the worst of our society.
True... while black pride was originally represented by a very exaggerated raised fist. -Native Washingtonian