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Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Langdon has to catch her.

Anonymous wrote:Absolutely no way a cutter becomes a dr.

? Of course this happens.

Absolutely no way a cutter becomes a dr.

Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

She’s a cutter. In a previous episode her scars on her thighs were shown. I think Whittaker, her roommate, saw her take the scalpel and perhaps knows about her habit which is why he paused and talked to her after she did it.

Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

Santos engages in cutting -- she makes small small cuts on her body as a way to deal with or manage negative emotions. We saw her cutting scars on her leg earlier in the season, and while some of the scars were old, some looked fresh.

While we can't know what the scalpel is for, the clear implication is that she is going to use it for cutting.

Anonymous wrote:That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

I think for cutting.

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Anonymous wrote:I like to see the debate about Langdon and Santos.

I will probably get some negative reactions for saying this, but I find everything about Langdon's character written and set up to invite sympathy for him, to include that he's a good looking straight white guy with a family. I think by the rules of our culture Langdon gets a massive pass right there.

I think the show is asking us to examine that - you saw how shocked Al Hashimi was when she was told of Langdon's history (and was she even told all of it)? And the rest of the ER doesn't know.

If Langdon had tried to gaslight Dana would he still be there?

It's an interesting pecking order/sociological issue and experiment.

NP here. I agree.

Also the way Dana is being treated by Dr. Robby. She was previously violently assaulted and there are increased safety measures for nurses in the almost 1 year since it happened. And she rushes to protect Emma (the only one) and Robby treats her horribly. But Langdon gets the pass?

Robby was right to get mad at her. This is her second time during her shift using unauthorized meds. First she asks for a prescription that she gives to someone else. And now she used a sedative on a patient and could have injured him which would have placed the hospital in big trouble. Emma should have been nowhere near a volatile patient on her first day and without supervision. She’s supposed to be shadowing Dana.

Patient had not been volatile in the hospital (only on golf course and in ambulance). She absolutely should have used the sedative on the big guy who had Emma in a chokehold and could have killed her. KILLED HER. The first script was for nicotine gum. Seriously.

Patient was known to be volatile. A newbie shadowing a nurse shouldn’t have been alone in there in the first place. Dana did what she had to do but it could have placed the hospital in a pickle. She happened to have Versed in her pocket? Maybe Robbie is sick of people not following protocol.

Dana committee insurance fraud earlier. Not cool.

Why do the men get a pass? Robby gets his friend to come into the ER to skip the huge line of people waiting so he can get a scan for possible lung cancer? How is this ER worthy? It’s not, Robby just wanted his friend to get taken care of before he went on his sabbatical vs the friend seeing specialists in a regular doctor’s appointment? And then then Robby making the executive decisions to NOT turn in Langdon for his many crimes of stealing drugs and tampering with medication. But it’s ok when Robby does it? GTFOH.

What was Dana supposed to do? Fill out a form, ask for a sign off while Emma died in a choke hold? I assume Dana keeps those meds in her pocket as some sort of protection against her getting assaulted again because she knows ain’t no one else coming to save her in time (look at your attitude towards it, she didn’t follow protocol, etc.). I think the bigger discussion is why the head nurse feels so unprotected that she needs that, not that Dana is a bad nurse for having it. Talk to someone who actually works in a hospital esp an ER or med surge. What are their biggest complaints? What makes them feel unsafe?

This is the perfect example of someone disagreeing with you, you going off the rails and treating them like a punching bag. And also putting words in people’s mouths. GFU.

You ok? Go outside and get some sunshine.

This applies to the person saying GTFOH to an opinion.

No, it’s applied to the person’s reaction to GTFOH. Relax. It’s a show. But there definitely are very intentional themes placed inside the show. I raised a new one. That’s all.

In a rude manner. Telling someone to GTFO in regards to a TV show is not ok. Seek help. And while you are at it, touch grass.

+1 I bet they are the same poster who went crazy in regards to the unsafe swaddle of Baby Jane Daugh and claimed she wasn’t being watched.

That was a scalpel Santos put in her pocket, right? I assume for general self-defense purposes?

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Anonymous wrote:I like to see the debate about Langdon and Santos.

I will probably get some negative reactions for saying this, but I find everything about Langdon's character written and set up to invite sympathy for him, to include that he's a good looking straight white guy with a family. I think by the rules of our culture Langdon gets a massive pass right there.

I think the show is asking us to examine that - you saw how shocked Al Hashimi was when she was told of Langdon's history (and was she even told all of it)? And the rest of the ER doesn't know.

If Langdon had tried to gaslight Dana would he still be there?

It's an interesting pecking order/sociological issue and experiment.

NP here. I agree.

Also the way Dana is being treated by Dr. Robby. She was previously violently assaulted and there are increased safety measures for nurses in the almost 1 year since it happened. And she rushes to protect Emma (the only one) and Robby treats her horribly. But Langdon gets the pass?

Robby was right to get mad at her. This is her second time during her shift using unauthorized meds. First she asks for a prescription that she gives to someone else. And now she used a sedative on a patient and could have injured him which would have placed the hospital in big trouble. Emma should have been nowhere near a volatile patient on her first day and without supervision. She’s supposed to be shadowing Dana.

Patient had not been volatile in the hospital (only on golf course and in ambulance). She absolutely should have used the sedative on the big guy who had Emma in a chokehold and could have killed her. KILLED HER. The first script was for nicotine gum. Seriously.

Patient was known to be volatile. A newbie shadowing a nurse shouldn’t have been alone in there in the first place. Dana did what she had to do but it could have placed the hospital in a pickle. She happened to have Versed in her pocket? Maybe Robbie is sick of people not following protocol.

Dana committee insurance fraud earlier. Not cool.

Why do the men get a pass? Robby gets his friend to come into the ER to skip the huge line of people waiting so he can get a scan for possible lung cancer? How is this ER worthy? It’s not, Robby just wanted his friend to get taken care of before he went on his sabbatical vs the friend seeing specialists in a regular doctor’s appointment? And then then Robby making the executive decisions to NOT turn in Langdon for his many crimes of stealing drugs and tampering with medication. But it’s ok when Robby does it? GTFOH.

What was Dana supposed to do? Fill out a form, ask for a sign off while Emma died in a choke hold? I assume Dana keeps those meds in her pocket as some sort of protection against her getting assaulted again because she knows ain’t no one else coming to save her in time (look at your attitude towards it, she didn’t follow protocol, etc.). I think the bigger discussion is why the head nurse feels so unprotected that she needs that, not that Dana is a bad nurse for having it. Talk to someone who actually works in a hospital esp an ER or med surge. What are their biggest complaints? What makes them feel unsafe?

This is the perfect example of someone disagreeing with you, you going off the rails and treating them like a punching bag. And also putting words in people’s mouths. GFU.

You ok? Go outside and get some sunshine.

This applies to the person saying GTFOH to an opinion.

No, it’s applied to the person’s reaction to GTFOH. Relax. It’s a show. But there definitely are very intentional themes placed inside the show. I raised a new one. That’s all.

Exactly. So why are you telling people on this thread to GTFOH when they express an opinion you don’t agree with?

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Anonymous wrote:I like to see the debate about Langdon and Santos.

I will probably get some negative reactions for saying this, but I find everything about Langdon's character written and set up to invite sympathy for him, to include that he's a good looking straight white guy with a family. I think by the rules of our culture Langdon gets a massive pass right there.

I think the show is asking us to examine that - you saw how shocked Al Hashimi was when she was told of Langdon's history (and was she even told all of it)? And the rest of the ER doesn't know.

If Langdon had tried to gaslight Dana would he still be there?

It's an interesting pecking order/sociological issue and experiment.

NP here. I agree.

Also the way Dana is being treated by Dr. Robby. She was previously violently assaulted and there are increased safety measures for nurses in the almost 1 year since it happened. And she rushes to protect Emma (the only one) and Robby treats her horribly. But Langdon gets the pass?

Robby was right to get mad at her. This is her second time during her shift using unauthorized meds. First she asks for a prescription that she gives to someone else. And now she used a sedative on a patient and could have injured him which would have placed the hospital in big trouble. Emma should have been nowhere near a volatile patient on her first day and without supervision. She’s supposed to be shadowing Dana.

Patient had not been volatile in the hospital (only on golf course and in ambulance). She absolutely should have used the sedative on the big guy who had Emma in a chokehold and could have killed her. KILLED HER. The first script was for nicotine gum. Seriously.

Patient was known to be volatile. A newbie shadowing a nurse shouldn’t have been alone in there in the first place. Dana did what she had to do but it could have placed the hospital in a pickle. She happened to have Versed in her pocket? Maybe Robbie is sick of people not following protocol.

Dana committee insurance fraud earlier. Not cool.

Why do the men get a pass? Robby gets his friend to come into the ER to skip the huge line of people waiting so he can get a scan for possible lung cancer? How is this ER worthy? It’s not, Robby just wanted his friend to get taken care of before he went on his sabbatical vs the friend seeing specialists in a regular doctor’s appointment? And then then Robby making the executive decisions to NOT turn in Langdon for his many crimes of stealing drugs and tampering with medication. But it’s ok when Robby does it? GTFOH.

What was Dana supposed to do? Fill out a form, ask for a sign off while Emma died in a choke hold? I assume Dana keeps those meds in her pocket as some sort of protection against her getting assaulted again because she knows ain’t no one else coming to save her in time (look at your attitude towards it, she didn’t follow protocol, etc.). I think the bigger discussion is why the head nurse feels so unprotected that she needs that, not that Dana is a bad nurse for having it. Talk to someone who actually works in a hospital esp an ER or med surge. What are their biggest complaints? What makes them feel unsafe?

This is the perfect example of someone disagreeing with you, you going off the rails and treating them like a punching bag. And also putting words in people’s mouths. GFU.

You ok? Go outside and get some sunshine.

This applies to the person saying GTFOH to an opinion.

No, it’s applied to the person’s reaction to GTFOH. Relax. It’s a show. But there definitely are very intentional themes placed inside the show. I raised a new one. That’s all.

In a rude manner. Telling someone to GTFO in regards to a TV show is not ok. Seek help. And while you are at it, touch grass.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if we will get any more info re the new attending’s call on the bathroom to her therapist requesting an emergency appointment.

I think it was a neurologist, but yes.

I wonder if we will get any more info re the new attending’s call on the bathroom to her therapist requesting an emergency appointment.

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Anonymous wrote:I like to see the debate about Langdon and Santos.

I will probably get some negative reactions for saying this, but I find everything about Langdon's character written and set up to invite sympathy for him, to include that he's a good looking straight white guy with a family. I think by the rules of our culture Langdon gets a massive pass right there.

I think the show is asking us to examine that - you saw how shocked Al Hashimi was when she was told of Langdon's history (and was she even told all of it)? And the rest of the ER doesn't know.

If Langdon had tried to gaslight Dana would he still be there?

It's an interesting pecking order/sociological issue and experiment.

NP here. I agree.

Also the way Dana is being treated by Dr. Robby. She was previously violently assaulted and there are increased safety measures for nurses in the almost 1 year since it happened. And she rushes to protect Emma (the only one) and Robby treats her horribly. But Langdon gets the pass?

Robby was right to get mad at her. This is her second time during her shift using unauthorized meds. First she asks for a prescription that she gives to someone else. And now she used a sedative on a patient and could have injured him which would have placed the hospital in big trouble. Emma should have been nowhere near a volatile patient on her first day and without supervision. She’s supposed to be shadowing Dana.

Patient had not been volatile in the hospital (only on golf course and in ambulance). She absolutely should have used the sedative on the big guy who had Emma in a chokehold and could have killed her. KILLED HER. The first script was for nicotine gum. Seriously.

Patient was known to be volatile. A newbie shadowing a nurse shouldn’t have been alone in there in the first place. Dana did what she had to do but it could have placed the hospital in a pickle. She happened to have Versed in her pocket? Maybe Robbie is sick of people not following protocol.

Dana committee insurance fraud earlier. Not cool.

Why do the men get a pass? Robby gets his friend to come into the ER to skip the huge line of people waiting so he can get a scan for possible lung cancer? How is this ER worthy? It’s not, Robby just wanted his friend to get taken care of before he went on his sabbatical vs the friend seeing specialists in a regular doctor’s appointment? And then then Robby making the executive decisions to NOT turn in Langdon for his many crimes of stealing drugs and tampering with medication. But it’s ok when Robby does it? GTFOH.

What was Dana supposed to do? Fill out a form, ask for a sign off while Emma died in a choke hold? I assume Dana keeps those meds in her pocket as some sort of protection against her getting assaulted again because she knows ain’t no one else coming to save her in time (look at your attitude towards it, she didn’t follow protocol, etc.). I think the bigger discussion is why the head nurse feels so unprotected that she needs that, not that Dana is a bad nurse for having it. Talk to someone who actually works in a hospital esp an ER or med surge. What are their biggest complaints? What makes them feel unsafe?

This is the perfect example of someone disagreeing with you, you going off the rails and treating them like a punching bag. And also putting words in people’s mouths. GFU.

You ok? Go outside and get some sunshine.

This applies to the person saying GTFOH to an opinion.

No, it’s applied to the person’s reaction to GTFOH. Relax. It’s a show. But there definitely are very intentional themes placed inside the show. I raised a new one. That’s all.

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Anonymous wrote:I like to see the debate about Langdon and Santos.

I will probably get some negative reactions for saying this, but I find everything about Langdon's character written and set up to invite sympathy for him, to include that he's a good looking straight white guy with a family. I think by the rules of our culture Langdon gets a massive pass right there.

I think the show is asking us to examine that - you saw how shocked Al Hashimi was when she was told of Langdon's history (and was she even told all of it)? And the rest of the ER doesn't know.

If Langdon had tried to gaslight Dana would he still be there?

It's an interesting pecking order/sociological issue and experiment.

NP here. I agree.

Also the way Dana is being treated by Dr. Robby. She was previously violently assaulted and there are increased safety measures for nurses in the almost 1 year since it happened. And she rushes to protect Emma (the only one) and Robby treats her horribly. But Langdon gets the pass?

Robby was right to get mad at her. This is her second time during her shift using unauthorized meds. First she asks for a prescription that she gives to someone else. And now she used a sedative on a patient and could have injured him which would have placed the hospital in big trouble. Emma should have been nowhere near a volatile patient on her first day and without supervision. She’s supposed to be shadowing Dana.

Patient had not been volatile in the hospital (only on golf course and in ambulance). She absolutely should have used the sedative on the big guy who had Emma in a chokehold and could have killed her. KILLED HER. The first script was for nicotine gum. Seriously.

Patient was known to be volatile. A newbie shadowing a nurse shouldn’t have been alone in there in the first place. Dana did what she had to do but it could have placed the hospital in a pickle. She happened to have Versed in her pocket? Maybe Robbie is sick of people not following protocol.

Dana committee insurance fraud earlier. Not cool.

Why do the men get a pass? Robby gets his friend to come into the ER to skip the huge line of people waiting so he can get a scan for possible lung cancer? How is this ER worthy? It’s not, Robby just wanted his friend to get taken care of before he went on his sabbatical vs the friend seeing specialists in a regular doctor’s appointment? And then then Robby making the executive decisions to NOT turn in Langdon for his many crimes of stealing drugs and tampering with medication. But it’s ok when Robby does it? GTFOH.

What was Dana supposed to do? Fill out a form, ask for a sign off while Emma died in a choke hold? I assume Dana keeps those meds in her pocket as some sort of protection against her getting assaulted again because she knows ain’t no one else coming to save her in time (look at your attitude towards it, she didn’t follow protocol, etc.). I think the bigger discussion is why the head nurse feels so unprotected that she needs that, not that Dana is a bad nurse for having it. Talk to someone who actually works in a hospital esp an ER or med surge. What are their biggest complaints? What makes them feel unsafe?

The men shouldn’t get a pass, but they do because the show is doing its best to be realistic.

What was Dana supposed to do? I think this gets to the heart of a major theme in this season. What do medical professionals do in an utterly broken system where they are constantly called on to figure out how to navigate caring for patients while playing lack of resources frogger. Their focus is continually divided between medical need and how they will get around the barriers to care in a broken system. Meanwhile, they’re all individually dealing with immense trauma and anxiety, with varying degrees of success. I think the arc of (Albert?) the diabetic dad who couldn’t afford treatment and left with a very iffy plan only to return collapsed at the end of this week’s episode really speaks to what are they supposed to do? You have everything you need to treat a patient, you are trained to treat patients, and you can’t treat them because broken system. Now you’re facing the outcome of that, and your powerlessness, so what do you do with that?

Should Dana be packing Versed. Obviously, no. What’s her alternative? She’s a small woman who knows that she or one of her nurses is inevitably going to be assaulted again and the hospital’s limited resources are probably not going to be enough. It’s a big difference to stealing a patient’s meds to get high. What should she do?

Kidney failure dad, the teen had to drive like a maniac to get his dad to Pittsburgh because their rural hospital closed. Should he drive like a maniac? What’s the alternative?

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Anonymous wrote:I like to see the debate about Langdon and Santos.

I will probably get some negative reactions for saying this, but I find everything about Langdon's character written and set up to invite sympathy for him, to include that he's a good looking straight white guy with a family. I think by the rules of our culture Langdon gets a massive pass right there.

I think the show is asking us to examine that - you saw how shocked Al Hashimi was when she was told of Langdon's history (and was she even told all of it)? And the rest of the ER doesn't know.

If Langdon had tried to gaslight Dana would he still be there?

It's an interesting pecking order/sociological issue and experiment.

NP here. I agree.

Also the way Dana is being treated by Dr. Robby. She was previously violently assaulted and there are increased safety measures for nurses in the almost 1 year since it happened. And she rushes to protect Emma (the only one) and Robby treats her horribly. But Langdon gets the pass?

Robby was right to get mad at her. This is her second time during her shift using unauthorized meds. First she asks for a prescription that she gives to someone else. And now she used a sedative on a patient and could have injured him which would have placed the hospital in big trouble. Emma should have been nowhere near a volatile patient on her first day and without supervision. She’s supposed to be shadowing Dana.

Patient had not been volatile in the hospital (only on golf course and in ambulance). She absolutely should have used the sedative on the big guy who had Emma in a chokehold and could have killed her. KILLED HER. The first script was for nicotine gum. Seriously.

Patient was known to be volatile. A newbie shadowing a nurse shouldn’t have been alone in there in the first place. Dana did what she had to do but it could have placed the hospital in a pickle. She happened to have Versed in her pocket? Maybe Robbie is sick of people not following protocol.

Dana committee insurance fraud earlier. Not cool.

Why do the men get a pass? Robby gets his friend to come into the ER to skip the huge line of people waiting so he can get a scan for possible lung cancer? How is this ER worthy? It’s not, Robby just wanted his friend to get taken care of before he went on his sabbatical vs the friend seeing specialists in a regular doctor’s appointment? And then then Robby making the executive decisions to NOT turn in Langdon for his many crimes of stealing drugs and tampering with medication. But it’s ok when Robby does it? GTFOH.

What was Dana supposed to do? Fill out a form, ask for a sign off while Emma died in a choke hold? I assume Dana keeps those meds in her pocket as some sort of protection against her getting assaulted again because she knows ain’t no one else coming to save her in time (look at your attitude towards it, she didn’t follow protocol, etc.). I think the bigger discussion is why the head nurse feels so unprotected that she needs that, not that Dana is a bad nurse for having it. Talk to someone who actually works in a hospital esp an ER or med surge. What are their biggest complaints? What makes them feel unsafe?

This is the perfect example of someone disagreeing with you, you going off the rails and treating them like a punching bag. And also putting words in people’s mouths. GFU.

You ok? Go outside and get some sunshine.

This applies to the person saying GTFOH to an opinion.