Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:26
Subject: Re:Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to deport anyone. Make the fines impossibly high for people who employ illegals (and likely are not paying them properly, providing health insurance or paying taxes on them) and the jobs will dry up and people will leave on their own. It has always been this simple. Republicans are the ones primarily employing illegals.
What, penalize the GOP base? Blasphemy!
Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:25
Subject: Re:Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry - are you asking me to create Trump's deportation plan? I saw what it looked like when children were thrown in baby jail away from their parents the last time. I don't really need to give him the benefit of the doubt what it'd look like this time.
And you can't just "mass deport" people without a hearing unless they waive it. So yes, there will be camps.
This is a vital point. The laws give many classes of asylum seekers and potential deportees due process and a hearing is required. THIS IS WHY there is "catch and release" - because they can't just immediately deport, AND there's nowhere to put them. This is also why there is a years-long backlog putting many asylum seekers and undocumented (not necessarily "illegal" as their status not yet adjudicated via hearing as required by law) to languish in a limbo state for years. AND - the Republicans have BLOCKED legislation to FUND the process to SPEED UP hearings and deportations - that's been the case going back to Obama, he repeatedly requested funding and was refused, Republicans have also BLOCKED legislation to fund any kind of detention (falling under the banner of "free shit for illegals") and nor have Republicans helped on any coherent legislation to actually fix any of the laws to deal with it, they SHUT DOWN the Bipartisan bill and just pushed the problem-riddled HR2 which doesn't even deal with problems like fentanyl smuggling.
I am the PP - and YES. Show me one instance of Republicans providing more funding for immigration judges more courts and more asylum officers, or anything that would make the process faster and more efficient. They claim to want to get rid of more migrants, but they don't put their money where their mouth is. And that tells you where their actual priorities are.
I guess Rs tanking the bipartisan border bill also tells you. They don't want to solve anything. They just want to keep screeching.
x a million. It’s been explained patiently to them; they just love hating on immigrants.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:24
Subject: Re:Official RNC convention thread
Speaking of dumb ^^. I guess you (and Meidas Touch, naturally) aren’t aware that in the United States, the formal rules are only senators, governors, presidents, and officers in the armed forces retain their courtesy titles after leaving office. It’s perfectly appropriate and correct to address a former governor as “Governor.” Educate yourself.
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:16
Subject: Re:Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:There is no reason to deport anyone. Make the fines impossibly high for people who employ illegals (and likely are not paying them properly, providing health insurance or paying taxes on them) and the jobs will dry up and people will leave on their own. It has always been this simple. Republicans are the ones primarily employing illegals.
I am fine with that if we all tax all remittances going out of the US at 90%. Tax and penalize things we don't want is great incentive.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:10
Subject: Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nativist twaddle. And deporting 10 million immigrants would kill the economy.
And cost a hundred billion dollars.
It will be worth every penny.
+1. Playing the long game, this will save money.
There are 10x's as many people that want to legally enter the US, that we can pick and choose from, versus the free-for-all invasion happening now.
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/19/2024 15:06
Subject: Re:Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I'm sorry - are you asking me to create Trump's deportation plan? I saw what it looked like when children were thrown in baby jail away from their parents the last time. I don't really need to give him the benefit of the doubt what it'd look like this time.
And you can't just "mass deport" people without a hearing unless they waive it. So yes, there will be camps.
This is a vital point. The laws give many classes of asylum seekers and potential deportees due process and a hearing is required. THIS IS WHY there is "catch and release" - because they can't just immediately deport, AND there's nowhere to put them. This is also why there is a years-long backlog putting many asylum seekers and undocumented (not necessarily "illegal" as their status not yet adjudicated via hearing as required by law) to languish in a limbo state for years. AND - the Republicans have BLOCKED legislation to FUND the process to SPEED UP hearings and deportations - that's been the case going back to Obama, he repeatedly requested funding and was refused, Republicans have also BLOCKED legislation to fund any kind of detention (falling under the banner of "free shit for illegals") and nor have Republicans helped on any coherent legislation to actually fix any of the laws to deal with it, they SHUT DOWN the Bipartisan bill and just pushed the problem-riddled HR2 which doesn't even deal with problems like fentanyl smuggling.
I am the PP - and YES. Show me one instance of Republicans providing more funding for immigration judges more courts and more asylum officers, or anything that would make the process faster and more efficient. They claim to want to get rid of more migrants, but they don't put their money where their mouth is. And that tells you where their actual priorities are.
I guess Rs tanking the bipartisan border bill also tells you. They don't want to solve anything. They just want to keep screeching.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 14:51
Subject: Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nativist twaddle. And deporting 10 million immigrants would kill the economy.
And cost a hundred billion dollars.
It will be worth every penny.
You going to complain about the extra rise in food prices that happens when all those workers are deported and food companies have to raised prices because of that? Please answer.
Anonymous
Anonymous
07/19/2024 14:46
Subject: Re:Official RNC convention thread
There is no reason to deport anyone. Make the fines impossibly high for people who employ illegals (and likely are not paying them properly, providing health insurance or paying taxes on them) and the jobs will dry up and people will leave on their own. It has always been this simple. Republicans are the ones primarily employing illegals.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 14:21
Subject: Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:He has NO plan and rambled for an hour and a half about a fictional character who he thinks is dead, but the actor is alive and the character never dies in the movie.
He also has no idea who the gov of WI is.
Oh so no plan to put people in “camps?”
Which one is it, a rambling plan less guy speaking incorrectly about fictional characters, or Hitler reborn with plans to imprison millions of people on American soil for an unspecified reason?
Tom Homan was Trump’s director of ICE, authored Project 25, and will be Trump’s DHS director. Here’s his plan as delivered in a keynote speech at the RNC the other night.
WhAt MaKeS yOu ThInK tHeY wIlL dEpOrT pEoPlE? TrUmP hAs NoThInG tO dO wItH pRoJeCt2025.
Anonymous
07/19/2024 14:20
Subject: Official RNC convention thread
Anonymous wrote:He has NO plan and rambled for an hour and a half about a fictional character who he thinks is dead, but the actor is alive and the character never dies in the movie.
He also has no idea who the gov of WI is.
Republicans think this man suffers from no dementia.
Anonymous