Anonymous wrote:I have a feeling that 30% number above is inclusive of people under the age of 16, since other sources put the number of people over 16 with a license at 90+%.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
The bike lanes would not be solely for commuters. It would be for your neighbors who would like to bike from your neighborhood to another for errands and vice verse for people from other neighborhoods to come to yours (and not take up any of your precious parking) - it would also be for tourists to go to the zoo and for kids to go to school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Did you miss the word "don't"?
One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license = One third of people in the US can't legally drive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Did you miss the word "don't"?
One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license = One third of people in the US can't legally drive.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Did you miss the word "don't"?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
You're right, they're not. One third of people in the US don't have a driver's license. I don't have a good source of data on this, but I seriously doubt that one third of people in the US can't ride a bike and/or can't afford a bike.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Those two numbers are not even in the same galaxy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Lots of people can't/don't drive ---> Nonetheless, we should continue to prioritize cars!
Lots of people can't/don't bike ---> NO BIKE LANES, BIKES ARE THE WORST, EVERYONE HATES THEM, CARS 4 EVAH.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
Before COVID, there were a lot of people doing it. Work from home kind of changed things a little.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:“Not to mention that bike lanes on Connecticut Avenue would INCREASE the carrying capacity of Connecticut Avenue.“
This is mendacious spin at a truly Trumpy tier.
Single occupancy vehicles are the least efficient method of getting people from one place to another. Mass transit and bikes are many times more efficient. So if planners and engineers redesign roads to priorities mass transit and bikes over cars, then by definition, the carrying capacity will increase.
Denying that is actually Trumpian.
Bicycles are literally single occupancy vehicles
And slow ones at that.
The idea that biking 6-10 miles each way from NOW DC to downtown is a realistic option for many commuters is simply false. Between the need to carry stuff to and from work, the need to be dressed appropriately and clean at the office, the physical abilities required to bike those miles, the lack of flexibility in terms of pre and post work errands, appointments, and pick-ups, and the time commitment involved, biking is not a realistic commuter option for most people. Facts are facts.
Bike commuting has been "a thing" for decades and, oh my, most of the newer buildings have showers and lockers so biking commuters can clean up before work. This has been a norm for years.
And, it doesn't need to be realistic for "most people" but if it realistic and safe FOR ENOUGH PEOPLE, then the overall impact on road space will be positively felt by the people who don't have the option. Motorists should be supporting safe bike infrastructure to make more room for themselves.
You refute yourself in your own post. It’s been a thing for decades. There has been a lot of investment in facilities and infrastructure. Yet hardly anyone does it. One more bike lane isn’t going to get people to commute on their bikes. Sorry.
The bike lanes would not be solely for commuters. It would be for your neighbors who would like to bike from your neighborhood to another for errands and vice verse for people from other neighborhoods to come to yours (and not take up any of your precious parking) - it would also be for tourists to go to the zoo and for kids to go to school.