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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

They all are not "top" players with lots of money or time invested are they though.

Look, this country does need pro academies to compete in international soccer but we are also a very different sports culture where soccer is still a fringe sport. Yes it is growing but it will never supplant the NFL, NBA or MLB. NHL? possibly.

Regardless, our sports culture of combining academics and sports is unique to the States and SEC Football is not going to go away so that soccer can lead the charge in professionalizing youth soccer. And why you would wish for the death of college sports is baffling.

We need to figure away both can coexist because frankly, I don't care enough about our World Cup success or professional leagues enough to throw college soccer away. Our domestic leagues don't even align seasons with their European counterparts because MLS simply cannot compete with the NFL, NBA and NHL from August to June. More people will watch the NFL Draft than the MLS championship.

Know your place and your value.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

You wish for that until your kid learns she/he isn't going pro but was talented enough to play the sport in college.

If this all changed overnight because the NCAA dissolves and the landscape changes, so be it. Where the kids land due to the fall out? Not a huge issue. The kids that can be in those systems, they still will be and the kids that can't? They wont be. Tomorrow will still come though.

And trust me, tomorrow will come when your kid isn't good enough for any of the remaining options that your hubris wished for.

You'll find out by 15 if she has what it takes. Hopefully puberty is kind to her.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

You wish for that until your kid learns she/he isn't going pro but was talented enough to play the sport in college.

If this all changed overnight because the NCAA dissolves and the landscape changes, so be it. Where the kids land due to the fall out? Not a huge issue. The kids that can be in those systems, they still will be and the kids that can't? They wont be. Tomorrow will still come though.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

It will not be that bad. If there is a ruling which is final which is at least 8-10 years off because any rulings will be stayed for lawsuits and appeal -- it will describe the things that make players employees. Schoold will just redesign their programs so that they do not meet the test. It is not as simple as all college athletes are employees. It will be they are employees because: (1) some revenue earned at games (some teams charge fees); (2) they are required to spend 40 plus hours a week subject to coach control; (3) on and on. Colleges will redesign -- not charge for games for fans; require each player to pay 500 a semester as fees; do not require practice time -- still have it just not required. And on and on. Things will change but not for the good of the student athletes.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

You wish for that until your kid learns she/he isn't going pro but was talented enough to play the sport in college.

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Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

You wish for that until your kid learns she/he isn't going pro but was talented enough to play the sport in college.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

The top Acadamies in Europe have "education" tied into development. Usually this revolves around soccer tactics and training but they also teach players how to speak multiple languages. This is because it makes the players more marketable to clubs in different countries.

Clubs do not usually drop top players from academy programs if they have ACL injuries. However they might sell via transfer fee or trade them to another academy. This is because acadamies value development and the time spent to be top talent.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

The academy might be free but the distance education or private education is not free.

It is impossible to dedicate to an academy while doing traditional schooling.

And academy coaches don't wield power? Tear an ACL is the academy going to care?

Academies are a business and you are their product. If they can't play you or sell you they cut you. It is not for everyone and it should not be promoted as though they would serve the interests of any more than the .0001%.

College can be extremely harsh as well but at least you are also attending school and preparing for a career while hopefully enjoying some aspect of the sport.

There really is no backup plan after getting cut from an academy.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.

Yes, but this will also be the downfall of sports that do not generate revenue. I have no issue with that personally. The business side of college is being exposed.

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Acadamies at least are honest about the end goal. If you're good enough you play professionally and if you're not you don't. Traditionally while you're learning how to play Acadeny soccer is free.

College sports could be good but colleges are greedy. If every player received a guaranteed 4 year scholarship then it would completely make sense. If colleges paid players an actual hourly wage it would also make sense. The problem with college sports is often the value of being a student athlete isn't there. Also because the player college relationship is 99% in favor of the college coaches have too much power and it leads to abuse of players. (Coach's dropping players if the find something better, coach's sexually abusing players by dangling their scholarship, and these are just a couple off the top of my head)

This is exactly why the Dartmouth basketball players voted to Unionize. They enjoy playing basketball in college but they feel taken advantage of. It they're allowed to unionize colleges and coaches won't be able to treat players like free labor.