Anonymous
08/21/2023 11:09
Subject: Re:The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.
Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.
Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.
He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.
He had a huge GPA problem.
Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?
Never heard of that at the high school level.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 11:01
Subject: Re:The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.
Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.
Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.
He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.
He had a huge GPA problem.
Don’t colleges know how to work with prospective recruits with low GPA?
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:58
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
What happened in Feb 2023 where he discovered all this? Why are you imagining this conversation happened?
Sean Tuoyh said he has family group chat from 2020 where Micheal asked about the conservatorship.
The one where he also asked for a bunch of money?
Don’t know if Sean mentioned having any actual proof that Michael asked money; but he said he had group chat from 2020 that Michael knew about the conservatorship.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:56
Subject: Re:The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.
Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.
Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.
He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.
He had a huge GPA problem.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:55
Subject: Re:The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Without the family who took Michael Oher into their home, Mr. Oher may have never played pro football. His gpa was way too low for NCAA requirement and the family got him 20 hours of tutoring per week. Oher took correspondence courses from BYU to raise his gpa and allow him to play NCAA football at Ole Miss.
Not trying to praise or criticize anyone, but there is always at least two sides to every story.
Also, many ex football players experience depression as a result of having suffered multiple concussions. I wonder if this is a factor in this matter.
He was already playing football. He met the family because he was in PREP school with their kids. He was not dumb. He was just in a bad family situation.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:53
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
What happened in Feb 2023 where he discovered all this? Why are you imagining this conversation happened?
Sean Tuoyh said he has family group chat from 2020 where Micheal asked about the conservatorship.
If true (big if), this will be just one of many timeline issues, and since Michael acknowledges the conservatorship (albeit describing it as exactly like adoption) in his book, it is going to be very hard for him to prove that he “knew but didn’t REALLY know.” I think everyone involved is going to come out of this the worse for it.
I don’t really see the inconsistency. He knew about the conservatorship they told him is was the same as adoption; adoption is the term if you are under 18 and it’s conservatorship if 18 and over.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:47
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
What happened in Feb 2023 where he discovered all this? Why are you imagining this conversation happened?
Sean Tuoyh said he has family group chat from 2020 where Micheal asked about the conservatorship.
If true (big if), this will be just one of many timeline issues, and since Michael acknowledges the conservatorship (albeit describing it as exactly like adoption) in his book, it is going to be very hard for him to prove that he “knew but didn’t REALLY know.” I think everyone involved is going to come out of this the worse for it.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:42
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
What happened in Feb 2023 where he discovered all this? Why are you imagining this conversation happened?
Sean Tuoyh said he has family group chat from 2020 where Micheal asked about the conservatorship.
The one where he also asked for a bunch of money?
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:22
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
What happened in Feb 2023 where he discovered all this? Why are you imagining this conversation happened?
Sean Tuoyh said he has family group chat from 2020 where Micheal asked about the conservatorship.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:21
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
Exactly. This tracks with his statement about the timeline of events. Instead of simply turning over the conservatorship records, they ran to hire Marty Singer. Definitely makes me think they're hiding something, but time will tell!
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:18
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
What happened in Feb 2023 where he discovered all this? Why are you imagining this conversation happened?
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:13
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Then when Michael asked about it they would have told him it was an oversight and it should have ended when he was 25 and they will file the petition to end it asap; instead they refuse to give him any information.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:10
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.
So maybe neither party was aware of that and the Tuohys assumed this was all done and dusted years ago.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:09
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
I guess the Tuohy’s can answer that. I assume if it ended they would say that instead of saying they will now voluntarily end it.
Anonymous
08/21/2023 10:08
Subject: The Blind Side scandal
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just last week the Tuoyh’s said they will voluntarily end the conservatorship so apparently it didn’t end when he was 25.
Why wouldn't it have automatically ended or be invalid after 25?
The Tuohy's and Oher originally signed a conservatorship agreement that would make the conservatorship end automatically at age 25.
However, the judge - who has final say over the matter - instead granted the conservatorship into perpetuity (until either party petitioned for it to end).
This discrepancy has never been explained.