Anonymous
03/24/2023 23:10
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the canopy tradition that Camilla is giving to her grandchildren traditionally belonged to duchesses. There are a bunch who aren’t part of the circus, some of whom are very wealthy and some who do more patronages and charity work than several of the working royals. I wonder if they were snubbed from the role in favor of Camilla’s pack because they snubbed Camilla. Supposedly, Queen Elizabeth detested Camilla. She might be persona non grata within aristocratic circles as well as many in the general public.
I always thought the Queen had much more in common with Camilla than Diana. They were both outdoorsy types and liked horses and hunting.
hmm but I think Diana is from a better family than both the house of Windsor and whatever "honorable" camilla is descended from most recently. (im an "honorable'- it means your grandmother was titled and parent didn't bag a title and married down) The Spencers are true English aristocracy and she said so- in those ridiculous circles, they were really snobbish about the house of Hanover (queen Victoria and the described as being nothing better than a hausfrau while she was the most powerful head of state in the world) and laughed at prince Philip's title from Greece. I know it makes little sense to us but these people care about their racial lineage and teh age of their titles and all that and English aristocracy did look down upon their own royal family for being German since many of them are Norman which is in their mind superior. the whole thing is caught up in white supremacy and racism, it has to be.. its stupid and illogical and based on inherited privilege, they make up whatever nonsense to justify it. kind of like Boston Mayflower descendants think the are superior to Italians .. same thing really.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 18:55
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I think the canopy tradition that Camilla is giving to her grandchildren traditionally belonged to duchesses. There are a bunch who aren’t part of the circus, some of whom are very wealthy and some who do more patronages and charity work than several of the working royals. I wonder if they were snubbed from the role in favor of Camilla’s pack because they snubbed Camilla. Supposedly, Queen Elizabeth detested Camilla. She might be persona non grata within aristocratic circles as well as many in the general public.
I always thought the Queen had much more in common with Camilla than Diana. They were both outdoorsy types and liked horses and hunting.
The Queen would not have made her Queen Consort if she detested Camilla. Camilla will be welcome in any place Charles is.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 17:57
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Camilla’s non royal family participates then Harry and wife should participate.
Why would an American participate in a coronation?
Which “American”? The American married to the born in England Prince? Funny, I thought DCUM tended to applaud wealthy international families doing wealthy international family things.
WTF are you talking about? Are you a monarchist?
Anonymous
03/24/2023 17:55
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:If Camilla’s non royal family participates then Harry and wife should participate.
Why would an American participate in a coronation?
Which “American”? The American married to the born in England Prince? Funny, I thought DCUM tended to applaud wealthy international families doing wealthy international family things.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 17:33
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:I think the canopy tradition that Camilla is giving to her grandchildren traditionally belonged to duchesses. There are a bunch who aren’t part of the circus, some of whom are very wealthy and some who do more patronages and charity work than several of the working royals. I wonder if they were snubbed from the role in favor of Camilla’s pack because they snubbed Camilla. Supposedly, Queen Elizabeth detested Camilla. She might be persona non grata within aristocratic circles as well as many in the general public.
I always thought the Queen had much more in common with Camilla than Diana. They were both outdoorsy types and liked horses and hunting.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 17:08
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:If Camilla’s non royal family participates then Harry and wife should participate.
Why would an American participate in a coronation?
Anonymous
03/24/2023 16:57
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Lol I love the moms of DCUM sitting in their salve away offices while insulting the achievement of Kate who had the gumption and savvy to enter history itself and become the freaking Queen (Consort) of the UK and Commonwealth and one of the most affluent, well-liked and well known people on earth.
By doing……what?
Anonymous
03/24/2023 16:38
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
I think the canopy tradition that Camilla is giving to her grandchildren traditionally belonged to duchesses. There are a bunch who aren’t part of the circus, some of whom are very wealthy and some who do more patronages and charity work than several of the working royals. I wonder if they were snubbed from the role in favor of Camilla’s pack because they snubbed Camilla. Supposedly, Queen Elizabeth detested Camilla. She might be persona non grata within aristocratic circles as well as many in the general public.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 14:39
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
If Camilla’s non royal family participates then Harry and wife should participate.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 14:33
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Lol I love the moms of DCUM sitting in their salve away offices while insulting the achievement of Kate who had the gumption and savvy to enter history itself and become the freaking Queen (Consort) of the UK and Commonwealth and one of the most affluent, well-liked and well known people on earth.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 14:27
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kate would never be Queen Consort, she will just be Queen. Queen Consort is a new title that Elizabeth created as a compromise to Charles’ nonstop badgering for over a decade to make Camilla Queen. Elizabeth wanted her to stay with Princess after Charles took the thrown. Elizabeth never wanted Camilla to take a Queen title because Elizabeth always took positions that were best for sustaining the monarchy over her family’s wishes. She knew that there was still a sizable portion of the UK that loves Diana and see Camilla as the home wrecker, affair partner. No amount of PR rehabilitation or buying off the media will change this so best to avoid risking the monarchy just to make Camilla happy. Charles does not share his mothers devotion to the monarchy. He’s planning on dropping the consort title which is a stupid mistake.
The next mistake is allowing Camilla’s grandchildren to play a larger role in the coronation. They are breaking with tradition to include them in lieu of more traditional roles. This will occur in contrast to not including his blood grandchildren from Harry. It doesn’t matter whether Harry s popular or not. The visual of the affair partners grandkids front and center while two of Charles and Diana’s grandkids are excluded is ugly. This also won’t play well with the younger generation that already doesn’t support Charles. It looks like he’s making a big show of presenting his blended family while glaringly excluding the ones f mixed race,
There’s a reason why Charles and Camilla face protesters every time they go out in public.
+1
Charles is just one unforced error after another. Camilla really plays him like a fiddle as the coronation has kind of become her weird “victory”. But she’s too weird to see it’s a Pyrrhic victory for the monarchy as an institution.
You’re incorrect. Prince Phillip, Elizabeth’s husband, was Prince Consort with respect to his British title; he was also a Prince of Greece in his own right though.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 13:06
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kate would never be Queen Consort, she will just be Queen. Queen Consort is a new title that Elizabeth created as a compromise to Charles’ nonstop badgering for over a decade to make Camilla Queen. Elizabeth wanted her to stay with Princess after Charles took the thrown. Elizabeth never wanted Camilla to take a Queen title because Elizabeth always took positions that were best for sustaining the monarchy over her family’s wishes. She knew that there was still a sizable portion of the UK that loves Diana and see Camilla as the home wrecker, affair partner. No amount of PR rehabilitation or buying off the media will change this so best to avoid risking the monarchy just to make Camilla happy. Charles does not share his mothers devotion to the monarchy. He’s planning on dropping the consort title which is a stupid mistake.
The next mistake is allowing Camilla’s grandchildren to play a larger role in the coronation. They are breaking with tradition to include them in lieu of more traditional roles. This will occur in contrast to not including his blood grandchildren from Harry. It doesn’t matter whether Harry s popular or not. The visual of the affair partners grandkids front and center while two of Charles and Diana’s grandkids are excluded is ugly. This also won’t play well with the younger generation that already doesn’t support Charles. It looks like he’s making a big show of presenting his blended family while glaringly excluding the ones f mixed race,
There’s a reason why Charles and Camilla face protesters every time they go out in public.
Harry’s kids are 4 and 2. What role are they going to play at the coronation, place Gramps crown on his head?
My understanding is that Camilla’s grandchildren will be holding something over her while she is anointed. You would think that you could do some variation of that for Charles with his grandchildren/children perhaps with the parents or other family members holding the kids to do so. Idk. Does not seem crazy. I’d imagine the person who puts the crown on Charles head would be the Archbishop of Canterbury.
DP. No, it doesn’t seem crazy — but it does seem ill-advised. Charles has already made this a smaller coronation than previous ones. He’s done this by decreasing the number of British aristocrats — his most natural supporters, and including instead, representatives of foreign nations, and Camilla’s non-Royal, non-aristocratic grandkids. This potentially alienates at least some members of the aristocracy who would have expected prominent roles in all of this, while further alienating both those who revere Diana and those who find Charles’s behavior problematic, particularly in his role as Defender of the Faith. That’s over and above the way many view the execrable way that Charles has treated his mixed race grandchildren — who, I agree, are really too young to have any active role in the coronation, but who, in a healthier family, or even in a healthier APPEARING family, would probably have a planned moment or two adding cuteness to the proceedings along with the extended family on a balcony or some other symbolic setting.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 10:54
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kate would never be Queen Consort, she will just be Queen. Queen Consort is a new title that Elizabeth created as a compromise to Charles’ nonstop badgering for over a decade to make Camilla Queen. Elizabeth wanted her to stay with Princess after Charles took the thrown. Elizabeth never wanted Camilla to take a Queen title because Elizabeth always took positions that were best for sustaining the monarchy over her family’s wishes. She knew that there was still a sizable portion of the UK that loves Diana and see Camilla as the home wrecker, affair partner. No amount of PR rehabilitation or buying off the media will change this so best to avoid risking the monarchy just to make Camilla happy. Charles does not share his mothers devotion to the monarchy. He’s planning on dropping the consort title which is a stupid mistake.
The next mistake is allowing Camilla’s grandchildren to play a larger role in the coronation. They are breaking with tradition to include them in lieu of more traditional roles. This will occur in contrast to not including his blood grandchildren from Harry. It doesn’t matter whether Harry s popular or not. The visual of the affair partners grandkids front and center while two of Charles and Diana’s grandkids are excluded is ugly. This also won’t play well with the younger generation that already doesn’t support Charles. It looks like he’s making a big show of presenting his blended family while glaringly excluding the ones f mixed race,
There’s a reason why Charles and Camilla face protesters every time they go out in public.
Harry’s kids are 4 and 2. What role are they going to play at the coronation, place Gramps crown on his head?
My understanding is that Camilla’s grandchildren will be holding something over her while she is anointed. You would think that you could do some variation of that for Charles with his grandchildren/children perhaps with the parents or other family members holding the kids to do so. Idk. Does not seem crazy. I’d imagine the person who puts the crown on Charles head would be the Archbishop of Canterbury.
No one is bringing such small kids to such a solemn event.
Anonymous
03/24/2023 10:53
Subject: So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:lol, PP was pwned.
Frankly she should've been the Duchess of Cornwall for the rest of her days. The King and his companion, the Duchess of Cornwall. Honestly it sounds more accurate and sincere. She's a mistress. Marriage doesn't change that. At least this way the King gets to have a respectable aristocratic mistress.
Agree. She’s a mistress. It was a bad decision to make the coronation about Camilla’s victory dance. She’s still unpopular. Charles is viewed as being petulant.
Agree X 1000000
Anonymous
03/24/2023 10:48
Subject: Re:So what kind of King will Charles be?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kate would never be Queen Consort, she will just be Queen. Queen Consort is a new title that Elizabeth created as a compromise to Charles’ nonstop badgering for over a decade to make Camilla Queen. Elizabeth wanted her to stay with Princess after Charles took the thrown. Elizabeth never wanted Camilla to take a Queen title because Elizabeth always took positions that were best for sustaining the monarchy over her family’s wishes. She knew that there was still a sizable portion of the UK that loves Diana and see Camilla as the home wrecker, affair partner. No amount of PR rehabilitation or buying off the media will change this so best to avoid risking the monarchy just to make Camilla happy. Charles does not share his mothers devotion to the monarchy. He’s planning on dropping the consort title which is a stupid mistake.
The next mistake is allowing Camilla’s grandchildren to play a larger role in the coronation. They are breaking with tradition to include them in lieu of more traditional roles. This will occur in contrast to not including his blood grandchildren from Harry. It doesn’t matter whether Harry s popular or not. The visual of the affair partners grandkids front and center while two of Charles and Diana’s grandkids are excluded is ugly. This also won’t play well with the younger generation that already doesn’t support Charles. It looks like he’s making a big show of presenting his blended family while glaringly excluding the ones f mixed race,
There’s a reason why Charles and Camilla face protesters every time they go out in public.
Harry’s kids are 4 and 2. What role are they going to play at the coronation, place Gramps crown on his head?
My understanding is that Camilla’s grandchildren will be holding something over her while she is anointed. You would think that you could do some variation of that for Charles with his grandchildren/children perhaps with the parents or other family members holding the kids to do so. Idk. Does not seem crazy. I’d imagine the person who puts the crown on Charles head would be the Archbishop of Canterbury.