Anonymous
08/06/2022 14:56
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.
Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.
Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.
You are the one trolling. Why do you care so much what someone’s oncologist told them? Get over it already.
Anonymous
08/06/2022 13:22
Subject: Re:BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.
We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.
We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.
DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.
Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.
If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.
What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?
The end game is for poster to stay alive to see their kids go to college. Empathy is always a good thing in life.
Anonymous
08/06/2022 13:20
Subject: Re:BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.
We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.
We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.
DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.
Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.
If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.
What’s your end game? Or do you just intend to do this until your kid leaves for college and presumably never comes back?
Anonymous
08/05/2022 19:43
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
+1,000 (DP, cancer survivor)
You guys are hilarious. Like you have any clue who’s competent and incompetent based on their Covid policy. Keep thinking you know it all because you had cancer!
Anonymous
08/05/2022 19:38
Subject: Re:BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Two and a half years in and I don’t see a huge difference in the frequency of infections among my mask wearing friends and my non mask wearing friends. On top of that, lots of people are reporting a slew of non Covid infections now that their immune systems are getting challenged again. I think the truth is that if we really wanted to prevent Covid, we’d be masking at home or with friends instead of the grocery store, but who would do that? I never thought I I would say this, but I don’t think makes sense anymore.
We plan to send DD to public school masked AND we will have to mask at home because my husband has a blood disorder which makes him extremely high risk.
We will mask at home when she is home so she can catch a break from masking. HEPA filter and distancing, ventilation, etc. At night doors closed and HEPA unit in hallway between our bedrooms.
DD will lunch away from her peers so she can be unmasked to eat.
Our goal is no exposure at all. It will be hard, but may not be impossible. In our case its worth the effort because the risk to my husband from any form of covid is extreme. Im high risk from hypertension, but lack risk factors like heart issues or obesity. So I may just be elevated risk.
If we didnt have these risks, we would just mask in public settings and not at home.
Eating separately is really sad for your child. Was she not in school last year? School is pretty much back to normal in most places. She'll be the only one taking such strict precautions and probably the only one masking. It will be harder than you think. Also you won't achieve "no exposure at all."
I agree with someone who mentioned hypertension... Basically, that doesn't make you any more high risk than most of the general population. And most of the general population are living pretty normally.
I have a fr
Anonymous
08/05/2022 19:28
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
+1,000 (DP, cancer survivor)
Anonymous
08/05/2022 19:25
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.
Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.
Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.
I am the chemo patient (I am also a doctor) with the awesome oncologist you were replying to. Once again, you are absolutely NOT qualified yo judge her. I know you think you got it going on, but you don’t. You stick with your oncologist and I’ll stick with mine.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 18:44
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.
Really? Even if while I was on chemo I was exposed a stomach bug from one of kids (who were all <11yo at the time) which put me in the hospital for a couple of nights because chemotherapy (along with having cancer) makes you more susceptible to infections? So maybe I'm kind of a little more knowledgeable about this than some random internet trolls.
Why, 2 1/2 years into this, do we STILL have Covid minimizers trolling around on this board??? It's so bizarre.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 16:53
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
Going through chemo makes you qualified on…absolutely nothing.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 16:49
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
The doctor told her to wear a mask indoors. Doctors also have to attend to the mental & spiritual health of patients -- isolation is very, very bad for mental health. We have very good covid medications now, and they actually did a study recently showing that chemo doesn't seem to increase the severity of covid: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32795225/
So actually, sounds like a very good doctor.
Chemotherapy suppresses the immune system. See that study you posted, which you clearly don't understand?
"Patients with baseline neutropenia 14-90 days before COVID-19 diagnosis had worse outcomes."
A side effect from chemo can be neutropenia. I'm not suggesting PP lock herself away, but she should wear an N-95 mask whenever she's out with other people.
"Conclusion: Recent cytotoxic chemotherapy treatment was not associated with adverse COVID-19 outcomes. "
Anonymous
08/05/2022 16:08
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
The doctor told her to wear a mask indoors. Doctors also have to attend to the mental & spiritual health of patients -- isolation is very, very bad for mental health. We have very good covid medications now, and they actually did a study recently showing that chemo doesn't seem to increase the severity of covid: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32795225/
So actually, sounds like a very good doctor.
Agreed. My cousin's DC went through chemo during 2020/2021 and they talked a lot with her doctors about what do do and what precautions to take, not just for the DC but their younger DC as well. The DC with cancer did virtual learning the 2020/2021 school year but the younger one attended school in person because that was best for them. Once DC with cancer finished treatment and went into remission, they went back to school and activities last year as well. The whole family got omicron in the winter and was fine.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 15:43
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
The doctor told her to wear a mask indoors. Doctors also have to attend to the mental & spiritual health of patients -- isolation is very, very bad for mental health. We have very good covid medications now, and they actually did a study recently showing that chemo doesn't seem to increase the severity of covid: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32795225/
So actually, sounds like a very good doctor.
Chemotherapy suppresses the immune system. See that study you posted, which you clearly don't understand?
"Patients with baseline neutropenia 14-90 days before COVID-19 diagnosis had worse outcomes."
A side effect from chemo can be neutropenia. I'm not suggesting PP lock herself away, but she should wear an N-95 mask whenever she's out with other people.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 15:07
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
The doctor told her to wear a mask indoors. Doctors also have to attend to the mental & spiritual health of patients -- isolation is very, very bad for mental health. We have very good covid medications now, and they actually did a study recently showing that chemo doesn't seem to increase the severity of covid: https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32795225/
So actually, sounds like a very good doctor.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 15:03
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Because those of us who've been through chemo know that an oncologist who's telling a chemo patient to not be Covid-cautious is incompetent.
Anonymous
08/05/2022 13:26
Subject: BA.5 Variant, the worst version of Omicron, is vaccine evasiive and surging across the country
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
Doctors of high-risk patients know how to give the proper advice, which, and I know this may sound surprising to apparently most of the PP's, is based on knowledge outside the scope of 99.99% of DCUM posters.
My oncologist has already been crapped on here for telling me this (which is funny because my 5cm tumor is almost gone - she is rocking my treatment) but she said “Go out and live your life!” Indoor crowded spaces I should be cautious and wear a mask, but otherwise I should go about my business.
Glad to hear your treatment is going well!
There are many illness outside of the ones people usually hear about that require a different level of precaution with covid that is a new level of precaution. Those of us with these illnesses do not consider it draconian for us to follow these precautions.
Those measures would sound absurd to others. We live amongst you, and don't impose our realities on anyone else. We are learning its not even safe on forums like this to let you know what it is we have to do.