Uvalde, a town of about 16,000, is spending $4.4 million, or 38%, of its $11.5 million budget for 2021-2022 on its 40-member police force.

Anonymous wrote:WHERE WAS THE SWAT TEAM ? ? ?

Busy taking cosplay pics for social media, I think. Maybe getting ready to head over to the NRA convention.

Yeah, has anyone addressed the missing SWAT team? Where the heck were they?

If it comes out that they were on a "team building" junket there will be hell to pay.

Any word about the swat team? They just did not show up? I bet they are still drawing pay.

WHERE WAS THE SWAT TEAM ? ? ?

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Anonymous wrote:So current news this AM is that the guy went to the school that AM and saw the resource officer and no way to gain entry and left. He must have been watching to know when the officer left and that the door was propped open.

This does not make sense. There was an awards ceremony in the am. It really does not fit the time line.

Whoever made up this story likely forgot that. Give them some time to make up another one now. No matter how you cut it, the police failed this community greatly.

Anonymous wrote:So current news this AM is that the guy went to the school that AM and saw the resource officer and no way to gain entry and left. He must have been watching to know when the officer left and that the door was propped open.

This does not make sense. There was an awards ceremony in the am. It really does not fit the time line.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that door being open is the only reason that active shooter got in the building that day, then you are not having a good face discussion about gun control and how to stop these massacres

Schools are not presents, meaning there are many different entry points and many windows. The doors with glass. How long do you think it takes someone to break one of those?. If you think they're worried about entering a door with broken glass, then you truly don't understand the suicide mission these men go on.

If there was a resource officer ON premise, he never would have gotten inside, or gotten far. Multiply that officer by a few other trained staff members and knowledge on the outside that the school was protected and the gunman would not have shown up there. It was clear he wasn’t on a suicide mission as he hid most of the time and came out shooting at cops multiple times.

We find out now that not only was the door open, but the school resource officer was gone. I’m sure he knew EXACTLY when to go to that school, when it would be unprotected. We know he planned it because he told his peers he was going to do it. They told adults who did NOTHING.

There already was a resource officer assigned to be on premise. Why wasn't he?

And as for doors and resource officers any how - why should we have to be in a perpetual position of retreat and ever-increasing fortification of schools? I thought the right wing hated the police state yet they are the ones creating it for our children.

The answer to making it safer is to reduce the threat at its source rather than ignoring the source and playing whack-a-mole trying to mitigate it everywhere else.

Resource officers often cover multiple campuses. Maybe they had a doctor's appointment that morning.

I think I saw that there were 5 officers dedicated to it, so it wasn't just one guy running between campuses and no cover.

They had an award ceremony in the morning with parents coming in. If the killer had shown up earlier he would have entered the school with the parents. It’s not like he was short on ammo. Was the resource office was there for the awards ceremony…most likely so.

This is a stupid tangent to go down. The resource office would have been killed quickly and the killer would gain access to to the school. 19 police officers with body armor and assault rifles were scare to go in because they were out gunned. What’s a resource officer going to do? I wonder why the resource officer or the watch commander did not have a master key for the school? It is SOP.

Also why did it take so long for officers to get there? The guy fired rounds at the funeral home. The police station is less then a mile away.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that door being open is the only reason that active shooter got in the building that day, then you are not having a good face discussion about gun control and how to stop these massacres

Schools are not presents, meaning there are many different entry points and many windows. The doors with glass. How long do you think it takes someone to break one of those?. If you think they're worried about entering a door with broken glass, then you truly don't understand the suicide mission these men go on.

If there was a resource officer ON premise, he never would have gotten inside, or gotten far. Multiply that officer by a few other trained staff members and knowledge on the outside that the school was protected and the gunman would not have shown up there. It was clear he wasn’t on a suicide mission as he hid most of the time and came out shooting at cops multiple times.

We find out now that not only was the door open, but the school resource officer was gone. I’m sure he knew EXACTLY when to go to that school, when it would be unprotected. We know he planned it because he told his peers he was going to do it. They told adults who did NOTHING.

There already was a resource officer assigned to be on premise. Why wasn't he?

And as for doors and resource officers any how - why should we have to be in a perpetual position of retreat and ever-increasing fortification of schools? I thought the right wing hated the police state yet they are the ones creating it for our children.

The answer to making it safer is to reduce the threat at its source rather than ignoring the source and playing whack-a-mole trying to mitigate it everywhere else.

Resource officers often cover multiple campuses. Maybe they had a doctor's appointment that morning.

I think I saw that there were 5 officers dedicated to it, so it wasn't just one guy running between campuses and no cover.

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Anonymous wrote:Puts the words and actions by the crazy Uvalde mayor in perspective. His police force let this happen. The police knew what these guns can do.

This and a million other reasons is why I say the GOP is 100% at fault for every mass shooting.

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Anonymous wrote:Police department failed on so many levels.
There's no reason they could have borrowed through a wall with an ax and hammer.
They had practiced these drills in the actual school so he should have known the layout very well.
This is their job

Because and ax and hammer would have been very quick!! And not alerted the shooter.

That's the point. To divert the shooters attention from innocent lives.

+1 Much better to do nothing and let the shooter just keep on shooting children, right? I bet that was the biggest surprise at all - when zero police came in to try to stop him.

The only reason he didn’t kill 20 more kids is he never suspected the incompetence of the police and was hiding in the closet expecting an assault force to barge in and kill him.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that door being open is the only reason that active shooter got in the building that day, then you are not having a good face discussion about gun control and how to stop these massacres

Schools are not presents, meaning there are many different entry points and many windows. The doors with glass. How long do you think it takes someone to break one of those?. If you think they're worried about entering a door with broken glass, then you truly don't understand the suicide mission these men go on.

If there was a resource officer ON premise, he never would have gotten inside, or gotten far. Multiply that officer by a few other trained staff members and knowledge on the outside that the school was protected and the gunman would not have shown up there. It was clear he wasn’t on a suicide mission as he hid most of the time and came out shooting at cops multiple times.

We find out now that not only was the door open, but the school resource officer was gone. I’m sure he knew EXACTLY when to go to that school, when it would be unprotected. We know he planned it because he told his peers he was going to do it. They told adults who did NOTHING.

There already was a resource officer assigned to be on premise. Why wasn't he?

And as for doors and resource officers any how - why should we have to be in a perpetual position of retreat and ever-increasing fortification of schools? I thought the right wing hated the police state yet they are the ones creating it for our children.

The answer to making it safer is to reduce the threat at its source rather than ignoring the source and playing whack-a-mole trying to mitigate it everywhere else.

Resource officers often cover multiple campuses. Maybe they had a doctor's appointment that morning.

That’s not a security plan, obviously. My kids school has multiple security officers on campus all day long and they screen everyone at the door.

Anonymous wrote:What is this with the red herring regarding locked doors? Has anyone heard of recess, arrival and dismissal? My local elementary school has various classes outside on the playground throughout the entire day. Someone with a gun could easily shoot through the wire fence. Are we okay with keeping our kids locked up inside all day from now on instead of enacting sensible gun laws?

Yes, but that's not when he went

Anonymous wrote:So current news this AM is that the guy went to the school that AM and saw the resource officer and no way to gain entry and left. He must have been watching to know when the officer left and that the door was propped open.

I thought they were still blaming the 911 operator. Man the OIC and mayor are untouchable. They must be republicans in good standing. Did we ever find out what happened to the towns swat team? The police did not even attempt to get the children in the other classes out of the building.

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Anonymous wrote:If you think that door being open is the only reason that active shooter got in the building that day, then you are not having a good face discussion about gun control and how to stop these massacres

Schools are not presents, meaning there are many different entry points and many windows. The doors with glass. How long do you think it takes someone to break one of those?. If you think they're worried about entering a door with broken glass, then you truly don't understand the suicide mission these men go on.

If there was a resource officer ON premise, he never would have gotten inside, or gotten far. Multiply that officer by a few other trained staff members and knowledge on the outside that the school was protected and the gunman would not have shown up there. It was clear he wasn’t on a suicide mission as he hid most of the time and came out shooting at cops multiple times.

We find out now that not only was the door open, but the school resource officer was gone. I’m sure he knew EXACTLY when to go to that school, when it would be unprotected. We know he planned it because he told his peers he was going to do it. They told adults who did NOTHING.

There already was a resource officer assigned to be on premise. Why wasn't he?

And as for doors and resource officers any how - why should we have to be in a perpetual position of retreat and ever-increasing fortification of schools? I thought the right wing hated the police state yet they are the ones creating it for our children.

The answer to making it safer is to reduce the threat at its source rather than ignoring the source and playing whack-a-mole trying to mitigate it everywhere else.

Resource officers often cover multiple campuses. Maybe they had a doctor's appointment that morning.