Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
Again, her parents were with her. it was reported at the time.
That doesn't mean much. They weren't with her round the clock and these epstein types apparently traded out and pimped their kids. Not saying that's what her parents did, but it was sketchy af then and is particularly sketchy af now, in context of the scandal.
Agree this was part of the grooming/ soft out who is vulnerable.
Didn’t Ivana warn someone at one of these parents-invited parties? Men, girls, and their moms at these parties. So awkward. I’ve been to many parties, that kind of mixture is embarrassingly wrong.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
So it was "No excuses jeans" she would've been 17 or just 18 at the time. She rides off in a limo at the end of the ad and the license plates says New York TRUMP. Weird
He also took her to Vegas, if I remember correctly. There was some weird incident where he got kicked out of a casino because everyone knew she was 17.
This was a different tennis player under 21. Can’t be on casino floor under 21, or don’t be so flashy as to get caught… the gaming commission spotted Trump and JE with young women at like 1:30 am and noticed their ages…
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
Again, her parents were with her. it was reported at the time.
That doesn't mean much. They weren't with her round the clock and these epstein types apparently traded out and pimped their kids. Not saying that's what her parents did, but it was sketchy af then and is particularly sketchy af now, in context of the scandal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
+1 She’s the whole reason any of this is happening. Not exaggerating.
Who should be charged? You do know that you need proof--or, more evidence than "xx says?"
Do I think there are likely guilty people? Yes. Do I think there is enough to convict? Probably not.
As for the women at the hearing. None of those women was a child at the time they were involved in Epstein shenanigans.
Not sure what post you meant to respond to but even the publicly released files have evidence of crimes. BTW, it’s illegal to traffic adults too.
Epstein is dead. Ghislaine is in jail. So, who do you intend to charge? You need clear evidence. It cannot be just suspicion.
There's a vast network. Maxwell wasn't the only person there - Epstein had others arranging "massages" and logistics involving the victims. The rest of the network involved in trafficking, and those who took advantage of the girls all need to be held accountable. You seem deeply out of touch acting like there's nothing left to do with Epstein dead and Maxwell in prison.
No. Not out of touch, but close enough to prosecutors to know that you need evidence and proof. I don't question there are people who are guilty--but convicting them is a whole other issue.
They don’t need a conviction in order to be shunned from society.
Even a conviction didn’t shun Epstein from society.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
So it was "No excuses jeans" she would've been 17 or just 18 at the time. She rides off in a limo at the end of the ad and the license plates says New York TRUMP. Weird
He also took her to Vegas, if I remember correctly. There was some weird incident where he got kicked out of a casino because everyone knew she was 17.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Guess who else holds their leaders more accountable for being in the Epstein files than we do?
Freaking Dubai
https://apnews.com/article/dubai-mideast-jeffrey-epstein-chairman-replaced-82cf3efbffe5ed2c1ea89dde06c86490?utm_source=apple_news&utm_medium=article_link
CAIRO (AP) — Dubai has announced a new chairman for DP World, one of the world’s largest logistics companies, replacing the outgoing head who was named in the Jeffrey Epstein documents.
The announcement by the government’s Dubai Media Office did not specifically name Sultan Ahmed bin Sulayem. However, it said that Essa Kazim was named DP World’s chairman and Yuvraj Narayan was named group CEO. Those were positions held by bin Sulayem.
Arab sheikhs, not exactly known for respecting women, are sidelining people in the Epstein files. Meanwhile, Howard Lutnick is still the Secretary of Commerce.
Is this ok with you guys?
Oh, wow. A rich and financially independent guy lost his job. That is not doing much beyond managing the optics
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
So it was "No excuses jeans" she would've been 17 or just 18 at the time. She rides off in a limo at the end of the ad and the license plates says New York TRUMP. Weird
He also took her to Vegas, if I remember correctly. There was some weird incident where he got kicked out of a casino because everyone knew she was 17.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
Again, her parents were with her. it was reported at the time.
That doesn't mean much. They weren't with her round the clock and these epstein types apparently traded out and pimped their kids. Not saying that's what her parents did, but it was sketchy af then and is particularly sketchy af now, in context of the scandal.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
So it was "No excuses jeans" she would've been 17 or just 18 at the time. She rides off in a limo at the end of the ad and the license plates says New York TRUMP. Weird
He also took her to Vegas, if I remember correctly. There was some weird incident where he got kicked out of a casino because everyone knew she was 17.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
+1 She’s the whole reason any of this is happening. Not exaggerating.
Who should be charged? You do know that you need proof--or, more evidence than "xx says?"
Do I think there are likely guilty people? Yes. Do I think there is enough to convict? Probably not.
As for the women at the hearing. None of those women was a child at the time they were involved in Epstein shenanigans.
Not sure what post you meant to respond to but even the publicly released files have evidence of crimes. BTW, it’s illegal to traffic adults too.
Epstein is dead. Ghislaine is in jail. So, who do you intend to charge? You need clear evidence. It cannot be just suspicion.
There's a vast network. Maxwell wasn't the only person there - Epstein had others arranging "massages" and logistics involving the victims. The rest of the network involved in trafficking, and those who took advantage of the girls all need to be held accountable. You seem deeply out of touch acting like there's nothing left to do with Epstein dead and Maxwell in prison.
No. Not out of touch, but close enough to prosecutors to know that you need evidence and proof. I don't question there are people who are guilty--but convicting them is a whole other issue.
They don’t need a conviction in order to be shunned from society.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What is the implication about Monica Seles?
What do you think the implication is for a 17yo to drop out of the biggest competition in her life to secretively hole up at Mar-a-Lago, who was murdered two years later?
She survived the stabbing, although it affected her mental health. There was another controversy with her doing a provocative ad campaign. She refused to address the trump rumors and threw gas on the flames with the ad. Iirc, his name was shown in the ad. It's just really weird.
So it was "No excuses jeans" she would've been 17 or just 18 at the time. She rides off in a limo at the end of the ad and the license plates says New York TRUMP. Weird