Anonymous
12/30/2018 13:45
Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Yes, I am outside DC and am not missing the federal behemoth closed. Was I supposed to notice a difference?
Most federal workers are not based in DC.
1/3 of federal workers are veterans.
Many small businesses rely on a customer base of federal workers who are not spending their money right now during the shutdown.
But sure, go ahead and sneer at those affected by the shutdown.
You mean, not spending the taxpayers' money.
It's the taxpayers' money.
Not the federal beauracrats', and not the contractors.
Just like your salary is actually the money of customers who pay your company for its services.
Tax money is confiscated
Anonymous
12/30/2018 13:30
Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
How did Trump latch onto this wall idea like a limpet in the first place? Did they just figure that it was the easiest way to keep the base stoked during the campaign?
Anonymous
12/30/2018 12:43
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:John Kelly points out today that the wall isn’t really a wall but in fact a fence similar to what the US has always had in place. But let’s shut down the Government and not pay a million federal workers so he can indulge his whim.
Outgoing White House chief of staff John Kelly said in an interview published Sunday that the Trump administration has moved on from the push for a concrete wall along the southern border.
"To be honest, it’s not a wall,” Kelly told The Los Angeles Times.
Pretty much. It's not doing a great job now which is why most people don't want billions poured into it. Stopping rich employers from hiring cheap economic illegals would make more of a difference at this point.
And if the Republicans (who still control Congress as of today, as well as the other branches of government) wanted this, it could have been done, you would think.
Anonymous
12/30/2018 12:29
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
And more damage to our environment as the shutdown continues.
The shutdown is already causing major problems at national parks despite efforts by states and private groups to offset the loss of federal funding.
A pileup of trash and dirty toilets during the shutdown has drawn intense concern at Joshua Tree National Park in California. December is historically one of the park’s busiest months — last year, 284,398 people visited Joshua Tree in December. Visitors are still being allowed into the park, but there are no federally funded services being provided, including maintenance.
Anonymous
12/30/2018 10:02
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
John Kelly points out today that the wall isn’t really a wall but in fact a fence similar to what the US has always had in place. But let’s shut down the Government and not pay a million federal workers so he can indulge his whim.
Outgoing White House chief of staff John Kelly said in an interview published Sunday that the Trump administration has moved on from the push for a concrete wall along the southern border.
"To be honest, it’s not a wall,” Kelly told The Los Angeles Times.
Anonymous
12/30/2018 09:18
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
The wall is being morphed into the wall system right now.
Pretty soon the story will be the administration was never planning an actual 30 ft wall, because that would be ridiculous, but a system of technological and physical barriers.
Someone is probably diligently working on words to fit the acronym W.A.L.L.
Pretty soon the story will be the administration was never planning an actual 30 ft wall, because that would be ridiculous, but a system of technological and physical barriers.
Someone is probably diligently working on words to fit the acronym W.A.L.L.
Anonymous
12/30/2018 08:52
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Regardless of what Congrss passes, there will be decades of eminent domain cases involving any land that current owners aren't willing to sell, costing tax payers many more millions of dollars in legal expenses. No continuous wall will be built anytime soon.
Anonymous
12/30/2018 08:31
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
It's just a matter of time before the fork gets stuck into Trump. Most of the Rs don't want the wall and the Ds coming in might just be the excuse they need.
What fig leaf are they going to provide the base with?
Yes, that's the question. I figure that the House will pass something with some more money for the "border barrier" (whatever that means), but not the full $5 billion. That will pass and go to the Senate where it will pass. Trump will either sign it or veto.
Pence was already saying two days ago that Trump would settle for 2.5 bn for his wall. But the Dems want the agreement that both the Senate and House were prepared to go forward with weeks ago. Trump played his hand and he is losing.
Anonymous
12/29/2018 22:24
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
It's just a matter of time before the fork gets stuck into Trump. Most of the Rs don't want the wall and the Ds coming in might just be the excuse they need.
What fig leaf are they going to provide the base with?
Yes, that's the question. I figure that the House will pass something with some more money for the "border barrier" (whatever that means), but not the full $5 billion. That will pass and go to the Senate where it will pass. Trump will either sign it or veto.
Anonymous
12/29/2018 22:07
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Americans blame Trump (rightly so) for the shutdown.
More Americans blame President Donald Trump than congressional Democrats for the partial U.S. government shutdown, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday, as the closure stretched into its sixth day with no end in sight.
Forty-seven percent of adults hold Trump responsible, while 33 percent blame Democrats in Congress, according to the Dec. 21-25 poll, conducted mostly after the shutdown began. Seven percent of Americans blamed congressional Republicans.
Duh! What did Trump expect after braying that this was his shutdown?
Anonymous
12/29/2018 22:06
Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:
It's just a matter of time before the fork gets stuck into Trump. Most of the Rs don't want the wall and the Ds coming in might just be the excuse they need.
What fig leaf are they going to provide the base with?
Anonymous
12/29/2018 22:03
Subject: Re:Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Americans blame Trump (rightly so) for the shutdown.
More Americans blame President Donald Trump than congressional Democrats for the partial U.S. government shutdown, according to a Reuters/Ipsos poll released on Thursday, as the closure stretched into its sixth day with no end in sight.
Forty-seven percent of adults hold Trump responsible, while 33 percent blame Democrats in Congress, according to the Dec. 21-25 poll, conducted mostly after the shutdown began. Seven percent of Americans blamed congressional Republicans.
Anonymous
12/29/2018 21:36
Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
It's just a matter of time before the fork gets stuck into Trump. Most of the Rs don't want the wall and the Ds coming in might just be the excuse they need.
Anonymous
12/29/2018 21:33
Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The Dems will cave. The only question is how long it will take and what kind of a fig leaf they will need to cover it. Trump was elected to build a Wall so he has a mandate. Schemer will paint himself as the hero and the reasonable person but he'll cave.
Not sure who Shemer is but I guess Trump will get what he wants just like he got Mexico to pay for the wall. Ha ha.
+1 didn’t trump promise Mexico would pay for the wall? Why are hundreds of thousands of Americans foregoing their paychecks for time worked because Trumo couldn’t seal the deal?
Anonymous
12/29/2018 21:23
Subject: Trump Threatens to Shutdown Government if No $ for his Border Wall
Anonymous wrote:The Dems will cave. The only question is how long it will take and what kind of a fig leaf they will need to cover it. Trump was elected to build a Wall so he has a mandate. Schemer will paint himself as the hero and the reasonable person but he'll cave.
Not sure who Shemer is but I guess Trump will get what he wants just like he got Mexico to pay for the wall. Ha ha.