Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:36     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Which is worse - the left thinking this will Garner votes or the left not helping with the wreath clean up yesterday?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:33     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:29     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:WHo does Schumer represent? New York, or Mexico?

He represents his constituents, her were lied to by Donald Trump when he said they’d never personally pay for a wall, that Mexico would do the paying.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:26     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Trump urges McConnell to go nuclear. Long-live Cheetolini the Autocrat. The irony is that he doesn’t understand the last vote only received 45 “yes” votes.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:19     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I genuinely have questions that are not rhetoric.

Who is monitoring this viral epidemic?: The CDC and state and local officials.

And many researches[?] are dumped down the drain when operations stop.: Federally-funded research may or may not have to be suspended.

Do the health insurance for fed workers continue coverage?: Yes. We don’t have national “single-payer” government insurance outside of the VA.

Is IRS functioning normal? Can we do our taxes.: Yes, you can file tax returns. Your employer sends out your W-2.

You seem quite unfamiliar with our country.


Yes, you can file your taxes and make payments but will not receive a refund while the government is shut down. Yes, your federal health insurance coverage continues during the time that you do not receive a paycheck, although your next premium payment will be large, to cover any missed premium payments. If you use federal daycare, check with them, they may be closed and may require payment.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:17     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
WHo does Schumer represent? New York, or Mexico?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:00     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:I genuinely have questions that are not rhetoric.

Who is monitoring this viral epidemic?: The CDC and state and local officials.

And many researches[?] are dumped down the drain when operations stop.: Federally-funded research may or may not have to be suspended.

Do the health insurance for fed workers continue coverage?: Yes. We don’t have national “single-payer” government insurance outside of the VA.

Is IRS functioning normal? Can we do our taxes.: Yes, you can file tax returns. Your employer sends out your W-2.

You seem quite unfamiliar with our country.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 08:00     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:I genuinely have questions that are not rhetoric.
Who is monitoring this viral epidemic? I would assume they have been deemed essential. And many researches are dumped down the drain when operations stop. Do the health insurance for fed workers continue coverage?

Is IRS functioning normal? Can we do our taxes.



The CDC is keeping the flu group open during the shutdown.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:58     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi hosted a dinner last night for all the Dems in the House at a fancy restaurant to celebrate their shutting down of the Govt. Wonder if the tax payers picked up the check for the 200 plus?

What?? Close to a million tax-paying Americans will may have no paycheck for a month, thanks to the Dems' first priority of defending illegals, and she's celebrating at a fancy restaurant at taxpayer expense? I sure hope the witch paid for it. She's a multi-millionnaire.


Who heads all branches of government!!!!

That has nothing to do with it. Dems have thrown up a roadblock: Give the entitled DACA brats amnesty, or we shut down the government! And they did.

Lesson: Dema favor the interests of illegal immigrants over the welfare of American citizens. We always knew that, since it was the #1 issue that decided the election, but the Dems seem to be going to extremes to prove it. Idiots.

(FWIW, I say let the DACA adults stay here as legal residents, NOT citizens, but that decision will be deferred until after the building of the wall has been completed - say, five more years.)



You’re so hyperbolic. We do not need a wall. We cannot continue to run a government on CR. They have to figure out CHIP and DACA. If the GOP doesn’t have the votes, they will have to compromise with the Dems. No matter how much they stomp their feet and tantrums. The GOP has both houses of Congress and the Presidency, why are they having so many problems with this? 5 Dems voted with the GOP but 5 GOP voted with the Dems. Sounds like the root of this problem is really gerrymandering.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:54     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.

I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.


The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.



Standalone chip- I agree.

How about a stand-alone budget? Schumer filibustering that one.


WTF is a “stand-alone budget”?
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:54     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
I genuinely have questions that are not rhetoric.
Who is monitoring this viral epidemic? I would assume they have been deemed essential. And many researches are dumped down the drain when operations stop. Do the health insurance for fed workers continue coverage?

Is IRS functioning normal? Can we do our taxes.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:53     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
jsteele wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.

I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.


The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.



Standalone chip- I agree.

How about a stand-alone budget? Schumer filibustering that one.



Thee bills that would pass are standalone DACA, Standalone CHIP and standalone budget. The dems don't trust the GIP to bring the first two to the floor (both could have been done any time over the past 4 months, but McConnell refused) so are simply asking for these popular bills to be brought together.

Why is McConnell refusing?

He has already betrayed Sen Collins on healthcare. He is proving to not be a reliable partner in this and it is being exposed, bigly.



How about a stand alone wall?

People know Schumer puts illegals kids over chip, and may he rot in hell for it.

I agree. Before we discuss how to reward parents for illegally entering this country by bestowing full benefits on their kids, let's first focus on the wall to prevent more of the same.

If a burglar breaks into your house, steals your jewelry, and pawns it to give money to his kids, would you first figure out whether to allow the kids to keep the money - or would you put a better lock in your door to prevent it from recurring?


Is this how Hannity explains it to dummies?

^^^ same liberal who can't debate the point, so again resorts to meaningless insult.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:53     Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi hosted a dinner last night for all the Dems in the House at a fancy restaurant to celebrate their shutting down of the Govt. Wonder if the tax payers picked up the check for the 200 plus?

What?? Close to a million tax-paying Americans will may have no paycheck for a month, thanks to the Dems' first priority of defending illegals, and she's celebrating at a fancy restaurant at taxpayer expense? I sure hope the witch paid for it. She's a multi-millionnaire.


Who heads all branches of government!!!!

That has nothing to do with it. Dems have thrown up a roadblock: Give the entitled DACA brats amnesty, or we shut down the government! And they did.

Lesson: Dema favor the interests of illegal immigrants over the welfare of American citizens. We always knew that, since it was the #1 issue that decided the election, but the Dems seem to be going to extremes to prove it. Idiots.

(FWIW, I say let the DACA adults stay here as legal residents, NOT citizens, but that decision will be deferred until after the building of the wall has been completed - say, five more years.)


Except only 45 Republicans votes for it. OOPS! There goes your BS talking point!
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:53     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Maybe because there isn't a filibuster?


They didn’t mention cloture in Schoolhouse Rock.
Anonymous
Post 01/21/2018 07:52     Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:^Gut feeling -- either this reopens tomorrow/Monday morning with a Feb 8 CR, or this shut down goes on for 3+ weeks. I don't see any middle ground here of like a 3 day or 5 day shutdown.


Nope the only dem who had been out front on this is Schumer and he's grossly miscalculated. If the rumors are accurate then it didn't take him long to cave on the Wall. Bluffing Trump is a huge mistake and conceding on a wall even in theory was idiotic on Schumers part. All trump has to do now is wait-he will get a cr and he will get a wall and if daca is included in the cr it will be on trumps terms. Schumer will agree to almost anything now to save face as long as he can try to spin it as a dem "win.". But he will cave hard on the substance and trump wins again.


You’ve never negotiated anymore than a happy meal, have you?

^^^ Liberal can't debate the point, so resorts to a meaningless insult.