Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am really really trying to be open-minded, but I feel like I was watching a different debate than some of you. I saw a poised, prepared, experienced candidate who gave specific policy platforms, used humor appropriately and seriousness besides, who spoke eloquently about important issues, who held her poise when she was provoked, who paid attention to the debate rules but pushed only slightly when she needed to. She didn't come across to me as arrogant or untrustworthy in the least. She looked like exactly what I want in a President.
Versus, a person who gave rambling, incoherent statements that were frequently conflicting and hypocritical even in the same sentence, wo was clearly unprepared and nervous (the amount of movement and water drinking and sniffling was a dead giveaway), who was rude to everyone, who repeatedly lied about things that were easy to confirm, who made racist comments and gave no specific policy ideas and who admitted he pays no federal taxes and has repeatedly filed for bankruptcy.
the main one that gets me is people who think she was arrogant last night. I think she could have been arrogant given who she was debating against, but I didn't read arrogance even a little.
Very eloquently put. Thanks for summing up my views exactly. #imwithher
+1.
Trump could have hit hard in several occasions (such as when he said what a shame it is we have third-world infrastructure and huge debt levels--so where has all the money gone), but he simply wasn't prepared or disciplined to drive points home.
She was better last night.
Reminds me of Obama's first debate against Romney. He too was too arrogant to think he had to prepare much, and he lost big. But he learned his lesson. Did much better in the next debate. Let's see how Kellyanne uses this to refocus him, and if he's willing to do it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am really really trying to be open-minded, but I feel like I was watching a different debate than some of you. I saw a poised, prepared, experienced candidate who gave specific policy platforms, used humor appropriately and seriousness besides, who spoke eloquently about important issues, who held her poise when she was provoked, who paid attention to the debate rules but pushed only slightly when she needed to. She didn't come across to me as arrogant or untrustworthy in the least. She looked like exactly what I want in a President.
Versus, a person who gave rambling, incoherent statements that were frequently conflicting and hypocritical even in the same sentence, wo was clearly unprepared and nervous (the amount of movement and water drinking and sniffling was a dead giveaway), who was rude to everyone, who repeatedly lied about things that were easy to confirm, who made racist comments and gave no specific policy ideas and who admitted he pays no federal taxes and has repeatedly filed for bankruptcy.
the main one that gets me is people who think she was arrogant last night. I think she could have been arrogant given who she was debating against, but I didn't read arrogance even a little.
Very eloquently put. Thanks for summing up my views exactly. #imwithher
+1.
Trump could have hit hard in several occasions (such as when he said what a shame it is we have third-world infrastructure and huge debt levels--so where has all the money gone), but he simply wasn't prepared or disciplined to drive points home.
She was better last night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump started strong with his trade war talk. That's his strong suit and there's probably some validity in what he says there. After that, he fell apart. His discussion on NATO is especially disturbing.
His discussion on NATO really hit a home with me. It's time to re-evaluate all these Cold War relics and have our junior "partners" start funding at least to their treat obligations. It would be great if they paid their fair share. The only obligation under article 5 is to provide what support each country deems appropriate up to and including military aid. It does not say each country must respond with military force.
Trump is a great thinker. I can't remember any other politician approach this issue with this outside of the box thinking. They will be starting to pay their fair share when he gets into the office.
The problem is, how is he gonna change the situation?You can't force companies to do anything. Most of them have global presence and America is not the largest market. Rest of the world is and especially China. So yeah he talks the good talk about trade BUT there is no solution. When you slap tariff of 25% on things made outside USA, price of things goes up by 25% and Americans pay for it. Sales will drop resulting in millions of job cuts.
He goes to trade war with China. China shuts down its 1.3 billion market to USA, who will lose , American companies. China is the largest market for GM, Microsoft, caterpillar, and hundreds of others. China also holds over 1 trillion$ Of USA debt. Any trade war with China will result in job losses in USA when china kicks out USA companies. China holds all the cards. Trump with his ADHD will be eaten alive by the shrewd Chinese.
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just reported that Bill will be watching from backstage. Probably afraid the camera will catch him nodding off or zoning out again. Can't have the public realize that the person Hill will be relying on for advice has neurological issues, too.
Trump did him and his family a great favor by refraining to go after his horrendous treatment of dozens of women. He was presidential last night and Hillary was in the mud. She apparently had a great memory of what Trump said in a pageant but can't recall 39 times in her interview with FBI.
Trump would only look like a hypocrite. One of his own ex-wives accused him of rape (though she later recanted). He has had multiple affairs. Not exactly Mr. Squeaky Clean here. Bill is pretty gross but Trump is no better.
Ivana Trump didn't recant. Her rape allegation was made under oath so recanting it could put her in legal jeopardy. There is also a current case accusing Trump of rape.
Ivana endorsed Trump for president. She said nothing happened. The only president impeached for lying is Bill Clinton. Hillary is a perfect match. She lied to congress and FBI, and could be impeached too if voters are stupid enough to elect her.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am really really trying to be open-minded, but I feel like I was watching a different debate than some of you. I saw a poised, prepared, experienced candidate who gave specific policy platforms, used humor appropriately and seriousness besides, who spoke eloquently about important issues, who held her poise when she was provoked, who paid attention to the debate rules but pushed only slightly when she needed to. She didn't come across to me as arrogant or untrustworthy in the least. She looked like exactly what I want in a President.
Versus, a person who gave rambling, incoherent statements that were frequently conflicting and hypocritical even in the same sentence, wo was clearly unprepared and nervous (the amount of movement and water drinking and sniffling was a dead giveaway), who was rude to everyone, who repeatedly lied about things that were easy to confirm, who made racist comments and gave no specific policy ideas and who admitted he pays no federal taxes and has repeatedly filed for bankruptcy.
the main one that gets me is people who think she was arrogant last night. I think she could have been arrogant given who she was debating against, but I didn't read arrogance even a little.
Very eloquently put. Thanks for summing up my views exactly. #imwithher
+1.
Trump could have hit hard in several occasions (such as when he said what a shame it is we have third-world infrastructure and huge debt levels--so where has all the money gone), but he simply wasn't prepared or disciplined to drive points home.
She was better last night.
Reminds me of Obama's first debate against Romney. He too was too arrogant to think he had to prepare much, and he lost big. But he learned his lesson. Did much better in the next debate. Let's see how Kellyanne uses this to refocus him, and if he's willing to do it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am really really trying to be open-minded, but I feel like I was watching a different debate than some of you. I saw a poised, prepared, experienced candidate who gave specific policy platforms, used humor appropriately and seriousness besides, who spoke eloquently about important issues, who held her poise when she was provoked, who paid attention to the debate rules but pushed only slightly when she needed to. She didn't come across to me as arrogant or untrustworthy in the least. She looked like exactly what I want in a President.
Versus, a person who gave rambling, incoherent statements that were frequently conflicting and hypocritical even in the same sentence, wo was clearly unprepared and nervous (the amount of movement and water drinking and sniffling was a dead giveaway), who was rude to everyone, who repeatedly lied about things that were easy to confirm, who made racist comments and gave no specific policy ideas and who admitted he pays no federal taxes and has repeatedly filed for bankruptcy.
the main one that gets me is people who think she was arrogant last night. I think she could have been arrogant given who she was debating against, but I didn't read arrogance even a little.
Very eloquently put. Thanks for summing up my views exactly. #imwithher
+1.
Trump could have hit hard in several occasions (such as when he said what a shame it is we have third-world infrastructure and huge debt levels--so where has all the money gone), but he simply wasn't prepared or disciplined to drive points home.
She was better last night.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump started strong with his trade war talk. That's his strong suit and there's probably some validity in what he says there. After that, he fell apart. His discussion on NATO is especially disturbing.
His discussion on NATO really hit a home with me. It's time to re-evaluate all these Cold War relics and have our junior "partners" start funding at least to their treat obligations. It would be great if they paid their fair share. The only obligation under article 5 is to provide what support each country deems appropriate up to and including military aid. It does not say each country must respond with military force.
Trump is a great thinker. I can't remember any other politician approach this issue with this outside of the box thinking. They will be starting to pay their fair share when he gets into the office.
The problem is, how is he gonna change the situation?You can't force companies to do anything. Most of them have global presence and America is not the largest market. Rest of the world is and especially China. So yeah he talks the good talk about trade BUT there is no solution. When you slap tariff of 25% on things made outside USA, price of things goes up by 25% and Americans pay for it. Sales will drop resulting in millions of job cuts.
He goes to trade war with China. China shuts down its 1.3 billion market to USA, who will lose , American companies. China is the largest market for GM, Microsoft, caterpillar, and hundreds of others. China also holds over 1 trillion$ Of USA debt. Any trade war with China will result in job losses in USA when china kicks out USA companies. China holds all the cards. Trump with his ADHD will be eaten alive by the shrewd Chinese.
China does not play fair. Sure, GM has a large market in China, but where are those cars made? How many cars are shipped from US to China? With regards to Microsoft, piracy of Microsoft products in China is rampant and the Chinese government has done very little to protect the intellectual property of US companies. On the other hand, it's a matter of Chinese government policy to support a domestic competitor to US companies. Google succeeds just about everywhere else, but not China, Apple sales are good, but loses out to domestic brands like Lenovo, Xiaomi, and Huawei. Even Uber, that company that has shown a willingness to flaunt local laws in the name of growth, has been forced to sell their operations in China to a domestic competitor. There are numerous other examples of this: competitive US companies that cannot compete in China because the market there is not free. China is kicking out US companies as is, what they allow to remain, they cannot do without. So any threat by them to kick out US companies is empty at best.
Lets recognize the situation for what it is: US is engaged in lopsided trade with countries all over the world. For too long we have been the only one operating in good faith. If the rest of the world is not willing to honestly engage in free and equitable trade, then I don't see why the US should continue alone down this road.
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just reported that Bill will be watching from backstage. Probably afraid the camera will catch him nodding off or zoning out again. Can't have the public realize that the person Hill will be relying on for advice has neurological issues, too.
Trump did him and his family a great favor by refraining to go after his horrendous treatment of dozens of women. He was presidential last night and Hillary was in the mud. She apparently had a great memory of what Trump said in a pageant but can't recall 39 times in her interview with FBI.
Trump would only look like a hypocrite. One of his own ex-wives accused him of rape (though she later recanted). He has had multiple affairs. Not exactly Mr. Squeaky Clean here. Bill is pretty gross but Trump is no better.
Ivana Trump didn't recant. Her rape allegation was made under oath so recanting it could put her in legal jeopardy. There is also a current case accusing Trump of rape.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I am really really trying to be open-minded, but I feel like I was watching a different debate than some of you. I saw a poised, prepared, experienced candidate who gave specific policy platforms, used humor appropriately and seriousness besides, who spoke eloquently about important issues, who held her poise when she was provoked, who paid attention to the debate rules but pushed only slightly when she needed to. She didn't come across to me as arrogant or untrustworthy in the least. She looked like exactly what I want in a President.
Versus, a person who gave rambling, incoherent statements that were frequently conflicting and hypocritical even in the same sentence, wo was clearly unprepared and nervous (the amount of movement and water drinking and sniffling was a dead giveaway), who was rude to everyone, who repeatedly lied about things that were easy to confirm, who made racist comments and gave no specific policy ideas and who admitted he pays no federal taxes and has repeatedly filed for bankruptcy.
the main one that gets me is people who think she was arrogant last night. I think she could have been arrogant given who she was debating against, but I didn't read arrogance even a little.
Very eloquently put. Thanks for summing up my views exactly. #imwithher
Anonymous wrote:I'm sure this has been covered but what was up with Trump's breathing? Maybe he's the one who is sick.