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Anonymous wrote:No one is actually saying anything on this thread. I am close to individuals you are referencing here and I find it very strange the way so many people are speculating on this.

You seem to be new to this site, or have you not read the entire 61 pages of this thread? Anonymous posters speculate about every. single. news story they care about. Hence, the wild success of DCUM.

Since you're saying you're close to the referenced individuals on this thread, I take it that means the driver and/or the party host parents. You don't need to say if you think anyone who breaks the law should have any consequences. But perhaps if there were small consequences for small offenses, there wouldn't be these two dead boys today.

Do you seriously think this was the first time breaking the law for any of these people?

I know for a fact it is not.

This is what should be so sad. Why didn't anyone curb the criminal activity sooner than now?

"Some parents see a drinking party as facilitating their son’s or daughter’s popularity—a tap-the-kegs-and-they-will-come philosophy. “We handled a Bethesda party in January where both parents were present,” White says. “They said they were having the party because their child has social issues.” "

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/May-June-2014/Underage-Drinking/

Wow
This is extremely sad and eye opening.
So even the parents who did everything to prevent drinking in their house couldn't do it. So what is the answer? Do we have to convince our kids but to drink? How?

The parents did nothing to prevent the underaged drinking in their house.
Absolutely nothing. Jail time for them is the ONLY solution.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is actually saying anything on this thread. I am close to individuals you are referencing here and I find it very strange the way so many people are speculating on this.

You seem to be new to this site, or have you not read the entire 61 pages of this thread? Anonymous posters speculate about every. single. news story they care about. Hence, the wild success of DCUM.

Since you're saying you're close to the referenced individuals on this thread, I take it that means the driver and/or the party host parents. You don't need to say if you think anyone who breaks the law should have any consequences. But perhaps if there were small consequences for small offenses, there wouldn't be these two dead boys today.

Do you seriously think this was the first time breaking the law for any of these people?

I know for a fact it is not.

This is what should be so sad. Why didn't anyone curb the criminal activity sooner than now?

"Some parents see a drinking party as facilitating their son’s or daughter’s popularity—a tap-the-kegs-and-they-will-come philosophy. “We handled a Bethesda party in January where both parents were present,” White says. “They said they were having the party because their child has social issues.” "

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/May-June-2014/Underage-Drinking/

Wow
This is extremely sad and eye opening.
So even the parents who did everything to prevent drinking in their house couldn't do it. So what is the answer? Do we have to convince our kids but to drink? How?

Wow, did you read the Bethesda Magazine article? Since when can you make a donation to get charges dropped as part of a plea deal?????

James Kress, an attorney with Baker Botts in Washington, D.C., admitted to knowing underage teens were drinking in his basement, according to Smalley, but said he hadn’t planned to let them leave. As the officers administered Breathalyzer tests to the 17 teens in the Kresses’ basement, some made “smart remarks and acted unruly,” according to Smalley. Police issued 16 citations to the teens, some of whom had BACs as high as .14, the equivalent of six drinks in an hour for a 160-pound male and three to four drinks for a 120-pound female.

Both Kresses were cited for allowing underage drinking on their property. Jennifer Kress pleaded guilty in July and paid a $1,000 fine. Prosecutors dismissed charges against James Kress, who, in accordance with a plea agreement, instead made a donation to an organization that combats underage drinking.

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Anonymous wrote:Post obtains copy of the police report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/we-felt-invincible-new-report-details-deadly-teen-crash-party-that-preceded-it/2015/09/18/be2947ce-5d77-11e5-b38e-06883aacba64_story.html

And the Post names everyone BUT the father that was at home during the house party and well aware they were all drinking vodka and beer, then leaving and driving. WTF???? What is the big secret here.

Buy the police report yourself if you care so much.

Who are you to be so nasty? The lawyer?
Besides, his name has been reported, but not by WaPo.

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Anonymous wrote:Post obtains copy of the police report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/we-felt-invincible-new-report-details-deadly-teen-crash-party-that-preceded-it/2015/09/18/be2947ce-5d77-11e5-b38e-06883aacba64_story.html

And the Post names everyone BUT the father that was at home during the house party and well aware they were all drinking vodka and beer, then leaving and driving. WTF???? What is the big secret here.

Buy the police report yourself if you care so much.

He definitely did the right thing. His courage needs to be celebrated by parents when they are talking to their kids. He's still walking around injured, btw. And knowing the kids who were killed I would guess that one, but not both of them would have had the courage, too.

Anonymous wrote:Because he is a minor, that's why. He is also a really nice kid who was a victim in the crash.

This kid deserves credit for speaking to the police. Let's focus on how he did the right thing, unlike the rest of them in that "community" who quickly lawyered-up and shut down.

Because he is a minor, that's why. He is also a really nice kid who was a victim in the crash.

Anonymous wrote:I don't like that they posted the name of the minor survivor though.

Why? Was he reported to have alcohol/drugs in his system? I know he did tell police he saw the speed at 105, even though police are able to verify only 65 in the 35 zone. I guess he spoke with police before the lawyer person told him to shut-up. The fact that he did speak with police initially, makes him a 'better' person in my book. Kudos to him for that. Shame on the rest of all those involved.

I don't like that they posted the name of the minor survivor though.

Anonymous wrote:OMG. The hosting party parent is Kenneth J. Saltzman of North Potomac, MD. a very influential big time lawyer. The arrogant one of this thread? Only admin can verify, as he's been successful in having certain posts removed.

Saltzman and drinking driver, Ellis, will be charged in October.

I am sick to my stomach with the revelation of who "chaperoned" this deadly party. Was there no mother at home? Divorced?

This is devastating.

At least wusa9 isn't afraid of reporting the whole truth.
Shame on The Washington Post reporter.

Anonymous wrote:Post obtains copy of the police report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/we-felt-invincible-new-report-details-deadly-teen-crash-party-that-preceded-it/2015/09/18/be2947ce-5d77-11e5-b38e-06883aacba64_story.html

And the Post names everyone BUT the father that was at home during the house party and well aware they were all drinking vodka and beer, then leaving and driving. WTF???? What is the big secret here.

Post obtains copy of the police report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/we-felt-invincible-new-report-details-deadly-teen-crash-party-that-preceded-it/2015/09/18/be2947ce-5d77-11e5-b38e-06883aacba64_story.html

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is actually saying anything on this thread. I am close to individuals you are referencing here and I find it very strange the way so many people are speculating on this.

You seem to be new to this site, or have you not read the entire 61 pages of this thread? Anonymous posters speculate about every. single. news story they care about. Hence, the wild success of DCUM.

Since you're saying you're close to the referenced individuals on this thread, I take it that means the driver and/or the party host parents. You don't need to say if you think anyone who breaks the law should have any consequences. But perhaps if there were small consequences for small offenses, there wouldn't be these two dead boys today.

Do you seriously think this was the first time breaking the law for any of these people?

I know for a fact it is not.

This is what should be so sad. Why didn't anyone curb the criminal activity sooner than now?

"Some parents see a drinking party as facilitating their son’s or daughter’s popularity—a tap-the-kegs-and-they-will-come philosophy. “We handled a Bethesda party in January where both parents were present,” White says. “They said they were having the party because their child has social issues.” "

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/May-June-2014/Underage-Drinking/

This is an article well-worth reading. Thank you. It illustrates how common it is for parents to allow underaged alcohol drinking in their homes. And not just their own kids, but yours too.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No one is actually saying anything on this thread. I am close to individuals you are referencing here and I find it very strange the way so many people are speculating on this.

You seem to be new to this site, or have you not read the entire 61 pages of this thread? Anonymous posters speculate about every. single. news story they care about. Hence, the wild success of DCUM.

Since you're saying you're close to the referenced individuals on this thread, I take it that means the driver and/or the party host parents. You don't need to say if you think anyone who breaks the law should have any consequences. But perhaps if there were small consequences for small offenses, there wouldn't be these two dead boys today.

Do you seriously think this was the first time breaking the law for any of these people?

I know for a fact it is not.

This is what should be so sad. Why didn't anyone curb the criminal activity sooner than now?

"Some parents see a drinking party as facilitating their son’s or daughter’s popularity—a tap-the-kegs-and-they-will-come philosophy. “We handled a Bethesda party in January where both parents were present,” White says. “They said they were having the party because their child has social issues.” "

http://www.bethesdamagazine.com/Bethesda-Magazine/May-June-2014/Underage-Drinking/