Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 09:42     Subject: Re:Official Ebola update thread
He said he felt sluggish. No fever, no other symptoms.

If he had a 103 fever on wed night, he wouldn't have been hopping on the subway. Do you know how bad you feel with a 103 fever?


Heard this morning that Dr. Spencer's fever was actually 100.3, not 103 as originally reported.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 09:30     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please people, get a grip. Not a single person in this country has contracted Ebola from casual contact. Not a one. The only people who have contracted it were nurses working with an end stage patient's bodily fluids and wearing inappropriate protection. No one living with Duncan, or who came in contact with Duncan, contracted the disease. Not a single health care worker who has treated an Ebola patient outside of this rinky dink hospital in Texas has contracted the disease.

Please tell me how somehow who works at the world bank is going to be exposed to an Ebola patient's bodily fluids. I don;t think these folks are putting in IVs and cleaning up vomit.

So many of you are just being ridiculous.


You are stunningly stupid. Is it denial?


Wha? These are the facts.


A world bank employee on a work trip to monrovia could absolutely come into contact with ebola patients just by virtue of being in a city with an epidemic.


While I certainly don't think anyone should be traveling to Monrovia these days unless they have urgent business, you cannot catch Ebola just from being in the same city as Ebola.

I am annoyed that these health care workers are not self quarantining with as much discipline as we'd like to see. I know it's highly unlikely that anyone will be infected from the bowling alley, etc. but there needs to be a strict protocol so that the CDC is not endlessly chasing contacts. It's too risky to have people deciding on their own when they feel bad enough to report in.

I hope this doctor has a speedy recovery.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 09:28     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
One thing is for sure: we cannot do anything that further hurts w. Africa's ability to control the epidemic. If quarantine of health care workers means they won't go, we can't do it. And then there is the issue of people in the us caring for ebola patients. We can't very well require that they be quarantined all the time while they are doing their jobs.

I think the best answer is better monitoring. Daily visits by public health workers to take temps and ask about symptoms. And why can't they proactively test for ebola before symptoms emerge?

All this said, msf should have required the 21 day quarantine.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 09:21     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please people, get a grip. Not a single person in this country has contracted Ebola from casual contact. Not a one. The only people who have contracted it were nurses working with an end stage patient's bodily fluids and wearing inappropriate protection. No one living with Duncan, or who came in contact with Duncan, contracted the disease. Not a single health care worker who has treated an Ebola patient outside of this rinky dink hospital in Texas has contracted the disease.

Please tell me how somehow who works at the world bank is going to be exposed to an Ebola patient's bodily fluids. I don;t think these folks are putting in IVs and cleaning up vomit.

So many of you are just being ridiculous.


You are stunningly stupid. Is it denial?


Wha? These are the facts.


A world bank employee on a work trip to monrovia could absolutely come into contact with ebola patients just by virtue of being in a city with an epidemic.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 09:12     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:Re: mandatory quarantine for health workers coming back from treating ebola patients. I think that is just common sense, if for no other reason than it is going to cost us a ton of money every time something like this (or like Amber Vinson flying) happens tracing the contacts, quarantining more people etc.

I agree we should not discourage aid workers of any sort going over there, so I think we should certainly pay them their salary for the 21 days they are stuck inside so they would not be economically harmed (it's cheaper than dealing with the outcome of them being out and about!). But if being quarantined means they can't go bowling or try on wedding dresses, tough! Their right to pursue hobbies can be put on hold for 3 weeks for public health and safety and if that will discourage them from going over there to help, they probably weren't very 'encouraged' to start with.


MSf was already paying his salary for that period. There's absolutely no reason he couldn't have quarantined.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:36     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:Good news! The doctor cleared "enhanced airport screening "!!!



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/good-news-cdc-says-nyc-ebola-doctor-cleared-enhanced-airport-screening/


A pyrrhic victory.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:31     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Re: mandatory quarantine for health workers coming back from treating ebola patients. I think that is just common sense, if for no other reason than it is going to cost us a ton of money every time something like this (or like Amber Vinson flying) happens tracing the contacts, quarantining more people etc.

I agree we should not discourage aid workers of any sort going over there, so I think we should certainly pay them their salary for the 21 days they are stuck inside so they would not be economically harmed (it's cheaper than dealing with the outcome of them being out and about!). But if being quarantined means they can't go bowling or try on wedding dresses, tough! Their right to pursue hobbies can be put on hold for 3 weeks for public health and safety and if that will discourage them from going over there to help, they probably weren't very 'encouraged' to start with.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:29     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Good news! The doctor cleared "enhanced airport screening "!!!



http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/10/good-news-cdc-says-nyc-ebola-doctor-cleared-enhanced-airport-screening/
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:20     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:My prediction is soon you will see the govt telling the medical facilities if they use the word ebola, their jobs will be threatened.

There is pretty much a media blackout on Duncan's family.


You really need to seek help for your paranoia.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:07     Subject: Re:Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The amount of resources devoted to this contact tracing will be enormous. I believe the cdc guidance is correct. But difficult situations call for difficult actions. There should be a mandatory 21 day quarantine for Drs like this upon return from the affected countries. If that leads to fewer volunteers, then provide incentives. The govt is crossing its fingers on this one. Would have been prudent to have avoided subways and all the other places.


Everyone here who's gotten sick did so within 10 days of being exposed. I think asking people who have worked with ebola patients to stay at home for 10 days seems more reasonable than 21.


I'll defer to the CDC on this. The way we are going about this in this country is somewhat weird. A mix of science, politics,and guesses.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:01     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Please people, get a grip. Not a single person in this country has contracted Ebola from casual contact. Not a one. The only people who have contracted it were nurses working with an end stage patient's bodily fluids and wearing inappropriate protection. No one living with Duncan, or who came in contact with Duncan, contracted the disease. Not a single health care worker who has treated an Ebola patient outside of this rinky dink hospital in Texas has contracted the disease.

Please tell me how somehow who works at the world bank is going to be exposed to an Ebola patient's bodily fluids. I don;t think these folks are putting in IVs and cleaning up vomit.

So many of you are just being ridiculous.


You are stunningly stupid. Is it denial?


Wha? These are the facts.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 08:01     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:My prediction is soon you will see the govt telling the medical facilities if they use the word ebola, their jobs will be threatened.

There is pretty much a media blackout on Duncan's family.


What are you talking about? I've read plenty about Duncan's family as well as seen pictures of them at his funeral.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 07:53     Subject: Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:Please people, get a grip. Not a single person in this country has contracted Ebola from casual contact. Not a one. The only people who have contracted it were nurses working with an end stage patient's bodily fluids and wearing inappropriate protection. No one living with Duncan, or who came in contact with Duncan, contracted the disease. Not a single health care worker who has treated an Ebola patient outside of this rinky dink hospital in Texas has contracted the disease.

Please tell me how somehow who works at the world bank is going to be exposed to an Ebola patient's bodily fluids. I don;t think these folks are putting in IVs and cleaning up vomit.

So many of you are just being ridiculous.


You are stunningly stupid. Is it denial?
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 07:51     Subject: Re:Official Ebola update thread
Anonymous wrote:The amount of resources devoted to this contact tracing will be enormous. I believe the cdc guidance is correct. But difficult situations call for difficult actions. There should be a mandatory 21 day quarantine for Drs like this upon return from the affected countries. If that leads to fewer volunteers, then provide incentives. The govt is crossing its fingers on this one. Would have been prudent to have avoided subways and all the other places.


Everyone here who's gotten sick did so within 10 days of being exposed. I think asking people who have worked with ebola patients to stay at home for 10 days seems more reasonable than 21.
Anonymous
Post 10/24/2014 07:49     Subject: Re:Official Ebola update thread
The amount of resources devoted to this contact tracing will be enormous. I believe the cdc guidance is correct. But difficult situations call for difficult actions. There should be a mandatory 21 day quarantine for Drs like this upon return from the affected countries. If that leads to fewer volunteers, then provide incentives. The govt is crossing its fingers on this one. Would have been prudent to have avoided subways and all the other places.