Anonymous
Post 12/05/2024 00:10     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 23:18     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, after all of the teeth gnashing by many of you, he will be confirmed.


No, he’s not. You seem to get a thrill out of bothering Democrats. But let’s face it, it’s actually Republicans who are going to sink his nominations behind the scenes. These wacky nominations are pretty easy for Democrats- they know they can protest loudly and vote no; it’s actually the few remaining normal Republicans who are being tested.


Yes. And there's enough of them to have Hedgseth quietly withdraw and move on. Senate Republicans aren't letting the garbage picks get to the floor.


Nothing quiet about his withdrawal.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 22:12     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, after all of the teeth gnashing by many of you, he will be confirmed.


No, he’s not. You seem to get a thrill out of bothering Democrats. But let’s face it, it’s actually Republicans who are going to sink his nominations behind the scenes. These wacky nominations are pretty easy for Democrats- they know they can protest loudly and vote no; it’s actually the few remaining normal Republicans who are being tested.


Yes. And there's enough of them to have Hedgseth quietly withdraw and move on. Senate Republicans aren't letting the garbage picks get to the floor.


I hope some democrats vote for him. Our nation deserves what it picked. Let's let it happen
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 21:52     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, after all of the teeth gnashing by many of you, he will be confirmed.


No, he’s not. You seem to get a thrill out of bothering Democrats. But let’s face it, it’s actually Republicans who are going to sink his nominations behind the scenes. These wacky nominations are pretty easy for Democrats- they know they can protest loudly and vote no; it’s actually the few remaining normal Republicans who are being tested.


Yes. And there's enough of them to have Hedgseth quietly withdraw and move on. Senate Republicans aren't letting the garbage picks get to the floor.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 21:34     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, after all of the teeth gnashing by many of you, he will be confirmed.


Are you kidding me? I don't think this guy is going to make it to the end of the week.


So are you thinking Friday? Or tomorrow?
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 21:22     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, after all of the teeth gnashing by many of you, he will be confirmed.


No, he’s not. You seem to get a thrill out of bothering Democrats. But let’s face it, it’s actually Republicans who are going to sink his nominations behind the scenes. These wacky nominations are pretty easy for Democrats- they know they can protest loudly and vote no; it’s actually the few remaining normal Republicans who are being tested.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 20:05     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:At the end of the day, after all of the teeth gnashing by many of you, he will be confirmed.


Are you kidding me? I don't think this guy is going to make it to the end of the week.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 20:04     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did an email from his mom leak to the press? Did mom CC or BCC the ex wife? Or did she send it to his Fox corporate email?


She CC’d it to the second wife at the time she sent it. The second wife is the one who gave the email to NYT


Yikes. Thanks, mom. Reminds me of that mom in “Catch Me If You Can” turning in her son played by Leonardo DiCaprio.


This is a good comparison because DiCaprio's character in that movie was a criminal who poses as an airline pilot and a doctor and fraudulently steals millions of dollars via a check forging scheme and other crimes.

So yes it's actually a lot like Hegseth who is a huge f***up who shouldn't be running your local hardware store and has been revealed as such by his own family, who know him best.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:59     Subject: Re:Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


Some highlights of the article for those who don't want to read it are below. The sources are from multiple former colleagues from several organizations he ran and paint a picture of someone who: had a big alcohol problem and was frequently intoxicated and out of control, fraternized inappropriately with female staff, created a hostile workplace for female employees, and couldn't keep it in his pants when on the road and away from his family. He was forced to step down from the two nonprofits he ran--what makes anyone think he's going to be a better manager of the entire DoD with its multi-billion dollar budget and over 3 million employees (active military and civilian)?

*forced to step down by both of the two nonprofit advocacy groups that he ran—Veterans for Freedom and Concerned Veterans for America—in the face of serious allegations of financial mismanagement, sexual impropriety, and personal misconduct.

*repeatedly intoxicated while acting in his official capacity—to the point of needing to be carried out of the organization’s events.

*Hegseth took the C.V.A. team to the strip club, where “he was so drunk he tried to get on the stage and dance with the strippers.”

*under Hegseth’s leadership, the organization became a hostile workplace that ignored serious accusations of impropriety, including an allegation made by a female employee that another employee on Hegseth’s staff had attempted to sexually assault her at the Louisiana strip club.

*Hegseth was at a bar in the early-morning hours of May 29, 2015, while on an official tour through Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio, drunkenly chanting “Kill All Muslims! Kill All Muslims!”

*Hegseth had “a history of alcohol abuse” and had “treated the organization funds like they were a personal expense account—for partying, drinking, and using CVA events as little more than opportunities to ‘hook up’ with women on the road.”



Just highlighting this post outlining the allegations in the Mayer article because it appears many of you still haven't read it.

He was fired from TWO jobs running veterans charities because he's a drunk and a womanizer who spends more time ranking the attractiveness of low-level female staffers and covering up sexual assault than actually doing his job. And he mishandled funds at these orgs because he thought the budget was just petty cash for trips to bars and strip clubs.

And he's been nominated to run an organization with nearly 3 million employees and an annual budget of over 800 billion.

One of the most disqualifying things about Pete Hegseth is that he knew all of the above and didn't mention it to anyone when he was asked to becoming Secretary of Defense. Like this is a guy who should be vetting himself and instead he thought, uh, the copious amounts of negative backstory on him was not going to get found out?

In addition to being a drunk and a womanizer who is bad with money and has poor management skills, he's also stupid.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:30     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't the amount of contempt Trump has for this country bother Trump voters? There are lots of far more qualified Republicans to be SecDef than this guy. DeSantis would be a big step up.

And in my experience, people with drinking problems get worse, not better, when placed in high stress job situations.

+1 who is he fooling by saying he won't drink if he gets it. Only gullible people would believe that.

I had no problem with him until he said that. Shows a lack of integrity to lie lack that which validates all of the reports about him. It’s not respectable. He should have been honest and pulled a Kavanaugh.


Senator Thom Tillis (R-NC) said yesterday that it was important for "Trump nominees to know what they challenges may be" wrt the Senate confirmation hearings.

"Look, I said through the Kavanaugh hearings," he said. "And, frankly, I think some of these hearings are going to make Kavanaugh look like he got treated respectfully."

[grabs giant tub of popcorn]
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:09     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't the amount of contempt Trump has for this country bother Trump voters? There are lots of far more qualified Republicans to be SecDef than this guy. DeSantis would be a big step up.

And in my experience, people with drinking problems get worse, not better, when placed in high stress job situations.

+1 who is he fooling by saying he won't drink if he gets it. Only gullible people would believe that.

I had no problem with him until he said that. Shows a lack of integrity to lie lack that which validates all of the reports about him. It’s not respectable. He should have been honest and pulled a Kavanaugh.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 19:06     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Doesn't the amount of contempt Trump has for this country bother Trump voters? There are lots of far more qualified Republicans to be SecDef than this guy. DeSantis would be a big step up.

And in my experience, people with drinking problems get worse, not better, when placed in high stress job situations.

+1 who is he fooling by saying he won't drink if he gets it. Only gullible people would believe that.


No, the contempt for the USA seems to be a bonus for Trump voters.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 18:41     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:How did an email from his mom leak to the press? Did mom CC or BCC the ex wife? Or did she send it to his Fox corporate email?


She CC’d it to the second wife at the time she sent it. The second wife is the one who gave the email to NYT


Yikes. Thanks, mom. Reminds me of that mom in “Catch Me If You Can” turning in her son played by Leonardo DiCaprio.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:59     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Anonymous wrote:Hedgseth is done. Looking at mainstream media, the knives are out. And Hedgseth can only afford to lose three Republican senators. There is a history of the Senate rejecting drunken "womanizers" if that's what you want to call it - John Tower.

Hedgseth will withdraw in the next 48 hours. There is no path forward. And maybe Trump will think twice before caving to his bad impulses. Gaetz and Hedgseth were ridiculous picks for their positions. Gabbard will be next.

So far, Republican senators are doing their jobs and killing bad nominations.


He'll blame it on his mommy for not being as convincing as she could be. Also, the libs. Also, his ex wife.
Anonymous
Post 12/04/2024 17:50     Subject: Pete Hedgseth for Secretary of Defense
Hedgseth is done. Looking at mainstream media, the knives are out. And Hedgseth can only afford to lose three Republican senators. There is a history of the Senate rejecting drunken "womanizers" if that's what you want to call it - John Tower.

Hedgseth will withdraw in the next 48 hours. There is no path forward. And maybe Trump will think twice before caving to his bad impulses. Gaetz and Hedgseth were ridiculous picks for their positions. Gabbard will be next.

So far, Republican senators are doing their jobs and killing bad nominations.