Sigh. I regret entering this rankings arms race. Here's the link showing Davidson as the current #6 USNWR for undergrad teaching. Yes, you are right, it appears to be for LACs. Good catch.

https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges/undergraduate-teaching

Peace out.

Anonymous wrote:If your child has not yet decided, list the options (if u want major, financial concerns, etc) and let the masses weigh in.

Go!

Aren’t you tired yet? I have a hs junior and can’t even w all this.

Anonymous wrote:I second this. My DD chose Davidson for many of these reasons also, as well as its excellence in undergraduate teaching (#6 USNWR), happy students (#5 Niche), and tough-to-beat location (idyllic campus + postcard-worthy college town, on edge of major "hot" metro area...with its own lake campus).

There is no such list on Niche

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Anonymous wrote:Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.

Not to mention Davidson is really small, many kids aren’t looking for slacs. Georgetown and Notre Dams are both in the so-called unicorn size range, 5000 to 10000.

Clearly, this applicant is looking at SLACs which is why they are on the list. Just another illogical SLAC hater. Please read before posting.

There are more larger schools on the list. Personally know too many kids at s who are bored with the social scene by year three.

Anonymous wrote:I second this. My DD chose Davidson for many of these reasons also, as well as its excellence in undergraduate teaching (#6 USNWR), happy students (#5 Niche), and tough-to-beat location (idyllic campus + postcard-worthy college town, on edge of major "hot" metro area...with its own lake campus).

Actually, it’s #16 for undergrad teaching. And that’s liberal arts colleges, not universities.


https://www.usnews.com/best-colleges/rankings/national-liberal-arts-colleges

Rankings and "brand" are important criteria. But honestly, no less important are culture and setting. We have three kids in highly selective schools. In hindsight, the #1 most important criteria we wish we had emphasized for them was -- what kind of place is most likely to make you intellectually curious, happy, and healthy? This is not always obvious when high school seniors are making their choices. The clearest example from our experience is geography. For our crew, it's CLEARLY better to spend four years in a place that you enjoy, rather than four years in a (higher-ranked, better known) place that you do not. For one of our kids, cold dark winters were just not a good thing. The second example is the student body mindset. It's CLEARLY better to spend four years in a collaborative environment, than four years in a (higher-ranked, better known) endless competitive pressure cooker. Don't underestimate how much mental health is a thing at their age. Anyway, to each their own, but that's our experience. Luckily we have a fourth kid in high school and can try to help him get it right.

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Anonymous wrote:Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.

Not to mention Davidson is really small, many kids aren’t looking for slacs. Georgetown and Notre Dams are both in the so-called unicorn size range, 5000 to 10000.

Says who?

Many go to SLACs.

A very small percentage compared to the number of kids at universities. It’s just basic math.

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Anonymous wrote:By what metric would Davidson be better than ND?

Not admissions rate, not test scores or class rank, not salaries

New poster here. DS accepted to all 3. Chose Davidson because of its environment - D1 sports, collaborative, rigorous academics, super happy and friendly student body. He disliked the intense and competitive club culture at Georgetown and couldn’t stomach South Bend. He now works in investment banking in NYC one year out.

Standardized test scores at Davidson may well be lower but that is likely the result of its D1 athletics program. Although less than 30% of students participate, that’s still a relatively large proportion of a 2,000 student body. This year, the admission rate is on par with both Georgetown and ND. Last year it was about 14.5%. You will not find a smarter or kinder group of kids at any school. I loved Georgetown for my kid, but it’s filled to the brim with sharp elbowed NYers. That just wasn’t what DS was looking for; admitted students’ day decided it for him. Never looked back — it was the best decision he could have made.

Are you u dear the impression that Notre Dame and Georgetown compete in fewer D1 sports than Davidson.

Good lord. There are a lot more kids at both ND and Georgetown. That means that the percentage of athletes to applicants is diluted and thus it has less of an impact on average standardized test scores. I'm guessing you didn't score too highly, dear.

It’s just a stupid argument — about half the class at Davidson doesn’t submit test scores at all, this presumably includes the athletes you are trying to claim bring thr test scores down.

ND from that list. But I don’t know enough about LSE undergrad.

I think Georgetown SFS is special, but not worth the extra money over ND.

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Anonymous wrote:Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.

Not to mention Davidson is really small, many kids aren’t looking for slacs. Georgetown and Notre Dams are both in the so-called unicorn size range, 5000 to 10000.

Says who?

Many go to SLACs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.

Not to mention Davidson is really small, many kids aren’t looking for slacs. Georgetown and Notre Dams are both in the so-called unicorn size range, 5000 to 10000.

Clearly, this applicant is looking at SLACs which is why they are on the list. Just another illogical SLAC hater. Please read before posting.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:By what metric would Davidson be better than ND?

Not admissions rate, not test scores or class rank, not salaries

New poster here. DS accepted to all 3. Chose Davidson because of its environment - D1 sports, collaborative, rigorous academics, super happy and friendly student body. He disliked the intense and competitive club culture at Georgetown and couldn’t stomach South Bend. He now works in investment banking in NYC one year out.

Standardized test scores at Davidson may well be lower but that is likely the result of its D1 athletics program. Although less than 30% of students participate, that’s still a relatively large proportion of a 2,000 student body. This year, the admission rate is on par with both Georgetown and ND. Last year it was about 14.5%. You will not find a smarter or kinder group of kids at any school. I loved Georgetown for my kid, but it’s filled to the brim with sharp elbowed NYers. That just wasn’t what DS was looking for; admitted students’ day decided it for him. Never looked back — it was the best decision he could have made.

Are you u dear the impression that Notre Dame and Georgetown compete in fewer D1 sports than Davidson.

Good lord. There are a lot more kids at both ND and Georgetown. That means that the percentage of athletes to applicants is diluted and thus it has less of an impact on average standardized test scores. I'm guessing you didn't score too highly, dear.

Anonymous wrote:Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.

Not to mention Davidson is really small, many kids aren’t looking for slacs. Georgetown and Notre Dams are both in the so-called unicorn size range, 5000 to 10000.

Anonymous wrote:Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.

I get your point. But just want to say that I don’t think being a “household name” is a good metric. Ole Miss and Ohio state are well known “household names” but that doesn’t make them the most prestigious schools.

Different poster here and I get that Davidson is charming and lovely (I thought so when we visited) but most Americans have not heard of it---including many educated Americans who will be someday hiring your child. In contrast Notre Dame and Georgetown are household names. I don't think this is a cut and dry decision.