Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:46
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
I'll also add. My immediate, gut instinct to this case was, someone hated Alec and set him up.
I was the first person to say that on this thread and was poo pooed.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:32
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
I also found that truly odd. The DA is calling this a very complex case. I have wondered if negligence is actually the best case scenario. There was obviously a lot of hurt feelings on the set.
I'll also add. My immediate, gut instinct to this case was, someone hated Alec and set him up.
I wondered that too, or someone was really pissed off about what was going on on the set, like the inadequate safety measures and the young, inexperienced armourer, and wanted to cause some trouble for the production. Like if you walk off the set due to problems maybe you also want to find a way to shut the production down or get the producers, etc. in trouble.
Also possible that there was some Trumper who really hated Alec, as many do, for his SNL stuff and decided to set him up both as an actor who might shoot the gun and as a producer who would be in trouble if someone else shot the gun.
never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity
Sure, it could be an elaborate plot, but the likely explanation is a lot of stupidity and a lax attitude towards firearms
Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:28
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
I also found that truly odd. The DA is calling this a very complex case. I have wondered if negligence is actually the best case scenario. There was obviously a lot of hurt feelings on the set.
I'll also add. My immediate, gut instinct to this case was, someone hated Alec and set him up.
I wondered that too, or someone was really pissed off about what was going on on the set, like the inadequate safety measures and the young, inexperienced armourer, and wanted to cause some trouble for the production. Like if you walk off the set due to problems maybe you also want to find a way to shut the production down or get the producers, etc. in trouble.
Also possible that there was some Trumper who really hated Alec, as many do, for his SNL stuff and decided to set him up both as an actor who might shoot the gun and as a producer who would be in trouble if someone else shot the gun.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:28
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
She hired a publicity whore who tries to insert herself into every high profile case. I doubt Balwin would ever consider hiring her, and she probably doesn't want to have to do real work on behalf of a criminal defendant so that rules out the armourer and assistant director. I doubt she knows New Mexico workers comp law so that rules out the victims. Someone present at the shooting is probably as close as she could get.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:24
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
He’s hiding out in Manchester, VT, a lovely little town.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:10
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
Maybe she hired the armorer.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 16:02
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
I also found that truly odd. The DA is calling this a very complex case. I have wondered if negligence is actually the best case scenario. There was obviously a lot of hurt feelings on the set.
I'll also add. My immediate, gut instinct to this case was, someone hated Alec and set him up.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 15:58
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She very well may be telling the truth.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krystieyandoli/rust-armorer-live-ammunition-gun-interview
Sounds like an issue of semantics. There was no live ammunition "on set" yet people were shooting bottles in the nearby dessert during breaks.
I've read that as well--that a person or persons were using the guns for "target practice" during breaks. That sounds like a logical (no less tragic, but logical) reason why there would have been live ammunition in that gun.
It's doesn't absolve the armorer of her responsibility to check the gun, but would explain a lot.
Right. The presence of live ammo on the set is because of stupid gun nuts. It's possible that some cast/crew members were sneaking the (apparently only?) working gun out and playing around with it and live ammo, without the armorer knowing or being involved, but really unlikely. She's a stupid gun nut, from her social media presence. She has a lot of explaining to do.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 15:57
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
I also found that truly odd. The DA is calling this a very complex case. I have wondered if negligence is actually the best case scenario. There was obviously a lot of hurt feelings on the set.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 15:55
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She very well may be telling the truth.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krystieyandoli/rust-armorer-live-ammunition-gun-interview
Sounds like an issue of semantics. There was no live ammunition "on set" yet people were shooting bottles in the nearby dessert during breaks.
I've read that as well--that a person or persons were using the guns for "target practice" during breaks. That sounds like a logical (no less tragic, but logical) reason why there would have been live ammunition in that gun.
It's doesn't absolve the armorer of her responsibility to check the gun, but would explain a lot.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 15:31
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Okay...different question.
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
The head scriptwriter, who was there when the cinematographer was shot and who called 911, has hired Gloria Allred (a big name attorney) to represent her.
Why would she do this? I know she blames the AD--you can hear her on the 911 call. I doubt she ever touched a gun. Why would she feel the need to hire a lawyer?
Anonymous
10/28/2021 14:55
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’ve watched too many murder mysteries like Perry Mason, but I’d be taking a long look at the disgruntled crew members who walked off the set the day before. Added to the rumor that people were firing live rounds for sport out in the desert area in their off time, I could totally see the possibility of someone adding a live round into a chamber and walking away. Assumes the armorer wasn’t removing all rounds each night and putting them in each morning.
Or someone took a bunch of those bullets and mixed them in with the movie ammunition. The Sheriff said they found live rounds within the stocks of blanks and dummy rounds.
If so, they should be able to get fingerprints from those bullets. If that person also put a real bullet into the prop gun, then that's really stupid.
Unless they were smart enough to wear gloves....
Damn. If that's what happened, then it'll be criminal charges. And maybe why the DA said they haven't ruled out criminal charges yet?
Anonymous
10/28/2021 14:39
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’ve watched too many murder mysteries like Perry Mason, but I’d be taking a long look at the disgruntled crew members who walked off the set the day before. Added to the rumor that people were firing live rounds for sport out in the desert area in their off time, I could totally see the possibility of someone adding a live round into a chamber and walking away. Assumes the armorer wasn’t removing all rounds each night and putting them in each morning.
Or someone took a bunch of those bullets and mixed them in with the movie ammunition. The Sheriff said they found live rounds within the stocks of blanks and dummy rounds.
If so, they should be able to get fingerprints from those bullets. If that person also put a real bullet into the prop gun, then that's really stupid.
Unless they were smart enough to wear gloves....
Anonymous
10/28/2021 14:35
Subject: Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Maybe I’ve watched too many murder mysteries like Perry Mason, but I’d be taking a long look at the disgruntled crew members who walked off the set the day before. Added to the rumor that people were firing live rounds for sport out in the desert area in their off time, I could totally see the possibility of someone adding a live round into a chamber and walking away. Assumes the armorer wasn’t removing all rounds each night and putting them in each morning.
Or someone took a bunch of those bullets and mixed them in with the movie ammunition. The Sheriff said they found live rounds within the stocks of blanks and dummy rounds.
If so, they should be able to get fingerprints from those bullets. If that person also put a real bullet into the prop gun, then that's really stupid.
Anonymous
10/28/2021 14:31
Subject: Re:Alec Baldwin fatally shot someone on movie set with gun mishap
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
She very well may be telling the truth.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/krystieyandoli/rust-armorer-live-ammunition-gun-interview
Sounds like an issue of semantics. There was no live ammunition "on set" yet people were shooting bottles in the nearby dessert during breaks.
"Deny everything." It might work.
She sounds like an idiot. And a liar. And probably both.
And this is the second person she's killed in two years. Not a good look.