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Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

People are speculating that SNL weekend update continues to troll Blake. If anyone saw, they had Heidi Gardner come on and play a middle-aged Karen, who was terrified of going to New York City because of what she read on Facebook.

At one point, she basically had this schtick where everything she was seeing was P-RN! EVERYWHERE!

Except that Lively lives in NYC so this doesn't make any sense.

Also Lively has not claimed she sees "porn everywhere." She has said that when a colleague showed her a video that featured naked people, with no prior explanation, she initially thought it might be porn. That is not crazy. If someone tried to show you a video at work of a person on a slip and slide with a flesh toned bathing suit and you did a double take like "what am I looking at here?" it would not be crazy for you to briefly think "whoa, is this person showing me porn, wtf." It's a normal reaction to being shown something that involves nudity or the appearance of nudity.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

This. Also I don't think Lively ever claimed the video was pornography. She alleged that Heath tried to show it to her with no warning or explanation, and, seeing what appeared to be nudity and an awkward position, briefly thought it was porn. Once she knew it was a birth video, she didn't allege it was pornographic.

However, the video on reddit strikes me as extremely intimate and inappropriate to share with a coworker without asking first if they want to see it. I also think showing it to Lively the day after filming the birth scene where Baldoni and Heath pressured Lively to do simulate full nudity in the scene and Baldoni made belittling comments to Lively about how it is "not normal" for a woman to wear a hospital gown during birth are what push this into harassment. They should not have pressured her to do nudity that wasn't specified in the script, should not have made those comments while pressuring her, and should definitely not have shown her the birth video the next day to, I don't know, prove their point on how women should be nude during birth? I truly cannot think of a good reason to show Lively the birth video at all, but especially not with explicitly telling her first "this is my wife's birth video, it's pretty intimate, would you like to see it." Just because Heath and his wife are happy to share these videos with whomever and post them on social media does not mean that everyone wants to see them or feels the same way.

Heath also allegedly said, when Lively asked him if he had his wife's permission to show the video, that his wife "isn't weird about" childbirth, as though being more modest about it is "weird."

If those conversations happened to me in my workplace, I would 100% view it as inappropriate and potentially harassing (depending on what else was happening in the same workplace).

So no, I don't think putting that video on instagram represents "receipts."

DP
Idk. When I read the NYT piece it seemed the implication was that they tried to force her to view porn. .. there’s been a lot of backtracking from the implications of that article which made Baldoni sound like a monster.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

People are speculating that SNL weekend update continues to troll Blake. If anyone saw, they had Heidi Gardner come on and play a middle-aged Karen, who was terrified of going to New York City because of what she read on Facebook.

At one point, she basically had this schtick where everything she was seeing was P-RN! EVERYWHERE!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

This. Also I don't think Lively ever claimed the video was pornography. She alleged that Heath tried to show it to her with no warning or explanation, and, seeing what appeared to be nudity and an awkward position, briefly thought it was porn. Once she knew it was a birth video, she didn't allege it was pornographic.

However, the video on reddit strikes me as extremely intimate and inappropriate to share with a coworker without asking first if they want to see it. I also think showing it to Lively the day after filming the birth scene where Baldoni and Heath pressured Lively to do simulate full nudity in the scene and Baldoni made belittling comments to Lively about how it is "not normal" for a woman to wear a hospital gown during birth are what push this into harassment. They should not have pressured her to do nudity that wasn't specified in the script, should not have made those comments while pressuring her, and should definitely not have shown her the birth video the next day to, I don't know, prove their point on how women should be nude during birth? I truly cannot think of a good reason to show Lively the birth video at all, but especially not with explicitly telling her first "this is my wife's birth video, it's pretty intimate, would you like to see it." Just because Heath and his wife are happy to share these videos with whomever and post them on social media does not mean that everyone wants to see them or feels the same way.

Heath also allegedly said, when Lively asked him if he had his wife's permission to show the video, that his wife "isn't weird about" childbirth, as though being more modest about it is "weird."

If those conversations happened to me in my workplace, I would 100% view it as inappropriate and potentially harassing (depending on what else was happening in the same workplace).

So no, I don't think putting that video on instagram represents "receipts."

DP
Idk. When I read the NYT piece it seemed the implication was that they tried to force her to view porn. .. there’s been a lot of backtracking from the implications of that article which made Baldoni sound like a monster.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

This. Also I don't think Lively ever claimed the video was pornography. She alleged that Heath tried to show it to her with no warning or explanation, and, seeing what appeared to be nudity and an awkward position, briefly thought it was porn. Once she knew it was a birth video, she didn't allege it was pornographic.

However, the video on reddit strikes me as extremely intimate and inappropriate to share with a coworker without asking first if they want to see it. I also think showing it to Lively the day after filming the birth scene where Baldoni and Heath pressured Lively to do simulate full nudity in the scene and Baldoni made belittling comments to Lively about how it is "not normal" for a woman to wear a hospital gown during birth are what push this into harassment. They should not have pressured her to do nudity that wasn't specified in the script, should not have made those comments while pressuring her, and should definitely not have shown her the birth video the next day to, I don't know, prove their point on how women should be nude during birth? I truly cannot think of a good reason to show Lively the birth video at all, but especially not with explicitly telling her first "this is my wife's birth video, it's pretty intimate, would you like to see it." Just because Heath and his wife are happy to share these videos with whomever and post them on social media does not mean that everyone wants to see them or feels the same way.

Heath also allegedly said, when Lively asked him if he had his wife's permission to show the video, that his wife "isn't weird about" childbirth, as though being more modest about it is "weird."

If those conversations happened to me in my workplace, I would 100% view it as inappropriate and potentially harassing (depending on what else was happening in the same workplace).

So no, I don't think putting that video on instagram represents "receipts."

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting new take on Reddit about the NYT and how potentially one of their board members is a major investor in RR ventures. Reddit opened a can of worms!

This is actually pretty big if true. It would explain a lot of things.

If there is one thing that I have sensed from this case is that RR has a LOT of powerful and wealthy connections. I double down on this case not reaching a jury.

JB will get his $.

Dp
What would it explain? I think the NYT messed up here, but I doubt that a board member was involved in editorial decisions. That would be a huge leap. Is that was Reddit is claiming?

The NYT essentially never settles… if they do, it will probably be because they don’t want to risk a bad industry precedent on actual malice or fair report. It would be highly unusual.

In addition to the wayfarer parties, BL has potentially ruined the career of a journalist. These things stick to writers.

This. The idea that one board member somehow initiated a months long journalistic investigation and story is pretty ridiculous. You may or may not like Meghan Twohey, but the editors who actually run that newsroom are professionals with a lot of integrity. That's a huge allegation.

Also, boards are full of people who invest in lots of stuff, and Reynolds has a ton of companies. This really strikes me as nothing more than a coincidence.

Anonymous wrote:Adding that smart lawyers always get an agreement to protect the work product privilege. It doesn’t have to be a joint defense agreement, can also be called a common interest agreement. In any case, it is clear that Blake’s lawyers did not do that here or it would have been argued in both motions.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

People are speculating that SNL weekend update continues to troll Blake. If anyone saw, they had Heidi Gardner come on and play a middle-aged Karen, who was terrified of going to New York City because of what she read on Facebook.

At one point, she basically had this schtick where everything she was seeing was P-RN! EVERYWHERE!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting new take on Reddit about the NYT and how potentially one of their board members is a major investor in RR ventures. Reddit opened a can of worms!

This is actually pretty big if true. It would explain a lot of things.

If there is one thing that I have sensed from this case is that RR has a LOT of powerful and wealthy connections. I double down on this case not reaching a jury.

JB will get his $.

Dp
What would it explain? I think the NYT messed up here, but I doubt that a board member was involved in editorial decisions. That would be a huge leap. Is that was Reddit is claiming?

The NYT essentially never settles… if they do, it will probably be because they don’t want to risk a bad industry precedent on actual malice or fair report. It would be highly unusual.

In addition to the wayfarer parties, BL has potentially ruined the career of a journalist. These things stick to writers.

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

Anonymous wrote:Interesting new take on Reddit about the NYT and how potentially one of their board members is a major investor in RR ventures. Reddit opened a can of worms!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Reddit also shows the Jamie Heath birth video that Blake claimed was pornography. I won’t post it here but wow. A family cuddling their newborn, with the birthing mom (Heath’s wife) being covered by a blanket throughout most of video. Music of Maxwell (I think) playing in the background, somewhat spiritual, a song about a woman’s worth.

And this was claimed by Blake as being pornographic—Justin and Jamie attempting to show her porn?

Wow. More receipts by Baldoni. Another fabrication by Blake.

I’m not sure what was on the screen when it was shown to Lively, but a screen grab that was posted a month ago seemed to show a mostly naked (?) Jamie Heath in a tub laying behind his also mostly naked wife, with the baby on top in a towel. What I mostly noticed from this was two mostly naked people in a tub, which I also wouldn’t want to watch tbh and which I might also confuse with a different kind of video. I am totally on Lively’s side here.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Interesting new take on Reddit about the NYT and how potentially one of their board members is a major investor in RR ventures. Reddit opened a can of worms!

This is actually pretty big if true. It would explain a lot of things.

If there is one thing that I have sensed from this case is that RR has a LOT of powerful and wealthy connections. I double down on this case not reaching a jury.

JB will get his $.