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11v11 = U18/U19 = 8/1/2007-7/31 (May include Senior/Junior)
11v11 = U17 = 8/1/2009 -7/31 (May include Senior/Junior/Sophomore)
11v11 = U16 = 8/1/2010 -7/31 (May include Junior/Sophomore/Freshman)
11v11 = U15 = 8/1/2011 -7/31 (May include Sophomore/Freshman/8th grade)
11v11 = U14 = 8/1/2012 -7/31 (May include Freshman/8th grade/7th grade)
11v11 = U13 = 8/1/2013 -7/31 (May include 8th grade/7th grade/6th grade)
11v11 = U12 = 8/1/2014 -7/31 (May include 7th grade/6th grade/5th grade)
9v9 = U11 = 8/1/2015 -7/31 (May include 6th grade/5th grade/4th grade)
9v9 = U10 = 8/1/2016 -7/31 (May include 5th grade/4th grade/3rd grade)
7v7 = U9 = 8/1/2017 -7/31 (May include 4th grade/3rd grade/2nd grade
7v7 = U8 = 8/1/2018 -7/31 (May include 3rd grade/2nd grade/1st grade
4v4 = U7 = 8/1/2019 -7/31 (May include 2nd/grade/1st grade/kindergarten)
4v4 = U6 = 8/1/2020 -7/31 (May include 1st grade/kindergarten/Pre-school)

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:100% correct

This one is for next fall when SY starts.

U18/U19; 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17; 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16; 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely Freshman or younger

Wrong, seriously you need to learn math

It also doesnt address all possible edge cases while being wrong.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

it's funny how people were having a conversation without grade and you had to non sequitur in your grade goal. grade never part of nwe sy.

Anonymous wrote:100% correct

This one is for next fall when SY starts.

U18/U19; 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17; 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16; 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely Freshman or younger

Wrong, seriously you need to learn math

100% correct

This one is for next fall when SY starts.

U18/U19; 8/1/2007 - 7/31/2009 ~ Senior
U17; 8/1/2009 - 7/31/2010 ~ Senior
U16; 8/1/2010 - 7/31/2011 ~ Junior
U15; 8/1/2011 - 7/31/2012 ~ Sophomore
U14; 8/1/2012 - 7/31/2013 ~ Freshman
U13; 8/1/2013 - 7/31/2014 ~ 8th
U12; 8/1/2014 - 7/31/2015 ~ 7th
U11; 8/1/2015 - 7/31/2016 ~ 6th
U10; 8/1/2016 - 7/31/2017~ 5th
U9; 8/1/2017 - 7/31/2018 ~ 4th
U8; 8/1/2018 - 7/31/2019 ~ 3rd
U7; 8/1/2019 - 7/31/2020 ~ 2nd
U6; 8/1/2020 - 7/31/2021 ~ 1st

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely Freshman or younger

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

Your monorail sales pitch to push for grade year is responding to the wrong comment.

No worries leagues and clubs are massively discouraging playing up an age group to keep the gap no more than 12 months.

Beyond puberty though, it isn't much of a issue, hence them looking to switch older showcases to graduation year.

Nobody is pushing for GY but you (age guy / mr usys)

Below is just how grades work with currently defined US Soccer levels.

This is for next fall when SY starts.

11v11 = U18/U19 = ≤ 8/1/2007 ≈ Senior
11v11 = U17 = ≤ 8/1/2009 ≈ Junior
11v11 = U16 = ≤ 8/1/2010 ≈ Sophmore
11v11 = U15 = ≤ 8/1/2011 ≈ Freshman
11v11 = U14 = ≤ 8/1/2012 ≈ 8th grade
11v11 = U13 = ≤ 8/1/2013 ≈ 7th grade
9v9/11v11 = U12 = ≤ 8/1/2014 ≈ 6th grade
9v9 = U11 = ≤ 8/1/2015 ≈ 5th grade
9v9 = U10 = ≤ 8/1/2016 ≈ 4th grade
7v7 = U9 = ≤ 8/1/2017 ≈ 3rd grade
7v7 = U8 = ≤ 8/1/2018 ≈ 2nd grade
4v4 = U7 = ≤ 8/1/2019 ≈ 1st grade
4v4 = U6 = ≤ 8/1/2020 ≈ Kindergarten

Using U14 as an example what this is saying is...

1. They play 11v11
2. Players turn 14 after Aug 1
3. Players are younger than or equal to 8/1/2012
4. Players are most likely in 8th grade

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

Your monorail sales pitch to push for grade year is responding to the wrong comment.

No worries leagues and clubs are massively discouraging playing up an age group to keep the gap no more than 12 months.

Beyond puberty though, it isn't much of a issue, hence them looking to switch older showcases to graduation year.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

So age guy is Mr USYS

Now we know why he's pushing for 36 month older players to play down.

Playing down is the only way C team players can compete against correct age/grade players.

Word of advice. Instead of trying to cut corners maybe USYS should focus on making clubs and teams better.

Anonymous wrote:its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

I think you got that backwards my friend.

When I’m proven right which I will be just remember this scene from Batman.


"I never said thank you," to which Batman replies from the rooftop edge, "And you'll never have to".

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Us club and USYS are working towards a merger and yes I’ve heard college showcases would no longer affect rankings for ECNL and will allow players to play with their school grade only Juniors/Seniors. You also have to be age eligible for either U19 or U18.

ECNL admin team is discussing this and will make decisions shortly could possibly be tabled until 27/28 season. But it’s coming.

More "rumors". Doesn't mean much.

What do think will happen if USYS joins ECNL? They're going to take the top teams and everyone else will be either B or maybe even C teams. Not much benifit for USYS unless you consider going away a positive. Might make sense on the boys side. Doesn't make sense on the girls side.

It will be framed as collaboration. Similar to what you see them doing with their new NPL group structure. Giving top clubs in USYS a path forward is only a good thing for them and strengthens everyone when large groups work together.

More to come wait and see!

The irony is a lot of the USYS top clubs already put their top teams into GA or MSLN academy (with a shot at homegrown). They still are in USYS leagues but with their B teams.

Those teams are no longer part of USYS this would be for clubs who are only in USYS.

That's incorrect. A club with both is touting these changes for their B teams in USYS.

A team in ECNL or ga or MLSN is no longer part of USYS a club can be but those teams are not.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Us club and USYS are working towards a merger and yes I’ve heard college showcases would no longer affect rankings for ECNL and will allow players to play with their school grade only Juniors/Seniors. You also have to be age eligible for either U19 or U18.

ECNL admin team is discussing this and will make decisions shortly could possibly be tabled until 27/28 season. But it’s coming.

More "rumors". Doesn't mean much.

What do think will happen if USYS joins ECNL? They're going to take the top teams and everyone else will be either B or maybe even C teams. Not much benifit for USYS unless you consider going away a positive. Might make sense on the boys side. Doesn't make sense on the girls side.

It will be framed as collaboration. Similar to what you see them doing with their new NPL group structure. Giving top clubs in USYS a path forward is only a good thing for them and strengthens everyone when large groups work together.

More to come wait and see!

The irony is a lot of the USYS top clubs already put their top teams into GA or MSLN academy (with a shot at homegrown). They still are in USYS leagues but with their B teams.

Those teams are no longer part of USYS this would be for clubs who are only in USYS.

That's incorrect. A club with both is touting these changes for their B teams in USYS.

A club can participate in both but not 1 team. If your team is part of USYS eco system the best starting point is the new NPL.

its sad that Mr Usys isnt getting the hint that people don't want him around

That's really no different than ECRL participating -- also B teams for some.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Us club and USYS are working towards a merger and yes I’ve heard college showcases would no longer affect rankings for ECNL and will allow players to play with their school grade only Juniors/Seniors. You also have to be age eligible for either U19 or U18.

ECNL admin team is discussing this and will make decisions shortly could possibly be tabled until 27/28 season. But it’s coming.

More "rumors". Doesn't mean much.

What do think will happen if USYS joins ECNL? They're going to take the top teams and everyone else will be either B or maybe even C teams. Not much benifit for USYS unless you consider going away a positive. Might make sense on the boys side. Doesn't make sense on the girls side.

It will be framed as collaboration. Similar to what you see them doing with their new NPL group structure. Giving top clubs in USYS a path forward is only a good thing for them and strengthens everyone when large groups work together.

More to come wait and see!

The irony is a lot of the USYS top clubs already put their top teams into GA or MSLN academy (with a shot at homegrown). They still are in USYS leagues but with their B teams.

Those teams are no longer part of USYS this would be for clubs who are only in USYS.

That's incorrect. A club with both is touting these changes for their B teams in USYS.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Us club and USYS are working towards a merger and yes I’ve heard college showcases would no longer affect rankings for ECNL and will allow players to play with their school grade only Juniors/Seniors. You also have to be age eligible for either U19 or U18.

ECNL admin team is discussing this and will make decisions shortly could possibly be tabled until 27/28 season. But it’s coming.

More "rumors". Doesn't mean much.

What do think will happen if USYS joins ECNL? They're going to take the top teams and everyone else will be either B or maybe even C teams. Not much benifit for USYS unless you consider going away a positive. Might make sense on the boys side. Doesn't make sense on the girls side.

It will be framed as collaboration. Similar to what you see them doing with their new NPL group structure. Giving top clubs in USYS a path forward is only a good thing for them and strengthens everyone when large groups work together.

More to come wait and see!

The irony is a lot of the USYS top clubs already put their top teams into GA or MSLN academy (with a shot at homegrown). They still are in USYS leagues but with their B teams.

Those teams are no longer part of USYS this would be for clubs who are only in USYS.

Right, so some clubs will be in both.