Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 08:13     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


Couldn't one of them avoided a lot of trouble and just poisoned them at home?


Sure. Maybe he wanted to romanticize it.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 08:09     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


This isn’t a popcorn emoji situation, you asshole. A baby is dead.


The internet isn’t for you.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 06:24     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:I’ve read this entire thread and all the posts. I don’t know why when I don’t even hike or like the outdoors that much I’ve become very invested in this tragic story. If it turns out to be heatstroke, this will be the new reality for hikers in the west with climate change. We are going to be reading about more stories like this. One tiny bit of good news, I have learnt more about heat exhaustion and heat stroke and what to do about each.


Except experienced hikers know to check the weather conditions ahead of time. I read somewhere that Jonathan used the All Trails app to research the trail. They knew what they were getting themselves into. But to bring a baby along? Unthinkable.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 06:17     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


Exactly. The wife committed the murder.


The husband, PP; the wife was trying to flee.


This.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 05:41     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
I’ve read this entire thread and all the posts. I don’t know why when I don’t even hike or like the outdoors that much I’ve become very invested in this tragic story. If it turns out to be heatstroke, this will be the new reality for hikers in the west with climate change. We are going to be reading about more stories like this. One tiny bit of good news, I have learnt more about heat exhaustion and heat stroke and what to do about each.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 04:09     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


Couldn't one of them avoided a lot of trouble and just poisoned them at home?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 04:07     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:It was in the 90s within an hour of their 8ish am start time.

It is always safest to NOT have a big, steep climb at the end. When tired or even with heat exhaustion, not heat stroke, a sprained ankle, etc, gravity pulling you really helps. That 2000 foot climb up the completely exposed switchbacks had to be brutal. The Google Earth view is worth a look. There is a reason LE called it an "aggressive" hike. I imagine they were carrying the dog by that point too.

Stuff of nightmares.


You know what's surprising? No one else ran across them on the same trail AFAIK. And we know they were on the trail, easily found. So, no one else thought that was a good place or day for a hike.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 01:33     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ok so no trees around to sit under, but about an old mine? I don’t know the first thing about mines but could they have gone inside an old abandoned mine to escape the heat? This is assuming they had the presence of mind and weren’t delirious from heat stroke. Were there any mines close enough for them to have rested for several hours and headed back to the car in the evening? I realize this wasn’t their plan when they initially went on this tragic hike.


I thought I saw upthread that they were only about a mile or so was it from the car. But if two well hydrated adults left home with baby and dog in tow, could they really not survive heatstroke? It’s not like they were wandering the desert for days. This is why I question heatstroke.


You are relentlessly thick headed. They were 1.5 miles away from their car up a very steep rocky incline. Have you even googled the trail they were on? Have you even bothered to read little independently about heat stroke and dehydration?
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 01:11     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


This isn’t a popcorn emoji situation, you asshole. A baby is dead.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 01:09     Subject: Re:What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Apparently two deputies had to spend the night at the site after the bodies were discovered to make sure no one would tamper with the site. I can’t imagine staying overnight even with another person with me for support.


Why? They work crime scenes 24x7?


At a hazmat site?

Brave men.


It wasn't a hazmat site. Law enforcement lifted that designation the next day.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 01:04     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


Exactly. The wife committed the murder.


The husband, PP; the wife was trying to flee.


DP. It does seem like she was trying to flee.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 00:29     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


Exactly. The wife committed the murder.


The husband, PP; the wife was trying to flee.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 00:26     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿


Exactly. The wife committed the murder.
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 00:24     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:I’m heading back to murder suicide since heat stroke so obvious. They would have said.


Staunch murder/suicide poster here.

I am just sitting back, reading, waiting for it to be confirmed. 🍿 🍿
Anonymous
Post 08/28/2021 00:23     Subject: What happened to this California family?
Anonymous wrote:It was in the 90s within an hour of their 8ish am start time.

It is always safest to NOT have a big, steep climb at the end. When tired or even with heat exhaustion, not heat stroke, a sprained ankle, etc, gravity pulling you really helps. That 2000 foot climb up the completely exposed switchbacks had to be brutal. The Google Earth view is worth a look. There is a reason LE called it an "aggressive" hike. I imagine they were carrying the dog by that point too.

Stuff of nightmares.


completely horrible. reminds me of how often “hike” on the east coast are really more like walks. I’m not sure people really appreciate what those steep switch-backs are like.