Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:51
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
CHIP was brought on the floor yesterday. GOP said no. Still blaming democrats, PP?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:50
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi hosted a dinner last night for all the Dems in the House at a fancy restaurant to celebrate their shutting down of the Govt. Wonder if the tax payers picked up the check for the 200 plus?
What?? Close to a million tax-paying Americans will may have no paycheck for a month, thanks to the Dems' first priority of defending illegals, and she's celebrating at a fancy restaurant at taxpayer expense? I sure hope the witch paid for it. She's a multi-millionnaire.
Who heads all branches of government!!!!
That has nothing to do with it. Dems have thrown up a roadblock: Give the entitled DACA brats amnesty, or we shut down the government! And they did.
Lesson: Dema favor the interests of illegal immigrants over the welfare of American citizens. We always knew that, since it was the #1 issue that decided the election, but the Dems seem to be going to extremes to prove it. Idiots.
(FWIW, I say let the DACA adults stay here as legal residents, NOT citizens, but that decision will be deferred until after the building of the wall has been completed - say, five more years.)
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:50
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Standalone chip- I agree.
How about a stand-alone budget? Schumer filibustering that one.
Thee bills that would pass are standalone DACA, Standalone CHIP and standalone budget. The dems don't trust the GIP to bring the first two to the floor (both could have been done any time over the past 4 months, but McConnell refused) so are simply asking for these popular bills to be brought together.
Why is McConnell refusing?
He has already betrayed Sen Collins on healthcare. He is proving to not be a reliable partner in this and it is being exposed, bigly.
How about a stand alone wall?
People know Schumer puts illegals kids over chip, and may he rot in hell for it.
I agree. Before we discuss how to reward parents for illegally entering this country by bestowing full benefits on their kids, let's first focus on the wall to prevent more of the same.
If a burglar breaks into your house, steals your jewelry, and pawns it to give money to his kids, would you first figure out whether to allow the kids to keep the money - or would you put a better lock in your door to prevent it from recurring?
Is this how Hannity explains it to dummies?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:48
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:^Gut feeling -- either this reopens tomorrow/Monday morning with a Feb 8 CR, or this shut down goes on for 3+ weeks. I don't see any middle ground here of like a 3 day or 5 day shutdown.
Nope the only dem who had been out front on this is Schumer and he's grossly miscalculated. If the rumors are accurate then it didn't take him long to cave on the Wall. Bluffing Trump is a huge mistake and conceding on a wall even in theory was idiotic on Schumers part. All trump has to do now is wait-he will get a cr and he will get a wall and if daca is included in the cr it will be on trumps terms. Schumer will agree to almost anything now to save face as long as he can try to spin it as a dem "win.". But he will cave hard on the substance and trump wins again.
You’ve never negotiated anymore than a happy meal, have you?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:46
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
I agree with Trump
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:46
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Talking point
The GOP said no on a stand alone CHIP yesterday
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:45
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Talking point
Are we now calling truth a talking point? Lol.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:43
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Talking point
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:42
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Standalone chip- I agree.
How about a stand-alone budget? Schumer filibustering that one.
Thee bills that would pass are standalone DACA, Standalone CHIP and standalone budget. The dems don't trust the GIP to bring the first two to the floor (both could have been done any time over the past 4 months, but McConnell refused) so are simply asking for these popular bills to be brought together.
Why is McConnell refusing?
He has already betrayed Sen Collins on healthcare. He is proving to not be a reliable partner in this and it is being exposed, bigly.
How about a stand alone wall?
People know Schumer puts illegals kids over chip, and may he rot in hell for it.
I agree. Before we discuss how to reward parents for illegally entering this country by bestowing full benefits on their kids, let's first focus on the wall to prevent more of the same.
If a burglar breaks into your house, steals your jewelry, and pawns it to give money to his kids, would you first figure out whether to allow the kids to keep the money - or would you put a better lock in your door to prevent it from recurring?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:41
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Standalone chip- I agree.
How about a stand-alone budget? Schumer filibustering that one.
Filibuster has a specific meaning, and this isn't it.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:40
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:There are no DACA kids. They are grown adults.
What are their kids?
You know the answer. Their kids are U.S. citizens, so not only are we educating the 2nd generation of kids - thanks to their illegal grandparents - they are eligible for food stamps and Medicaid now, and will ultimately be entitled to subsidized housing - and to vote. So the next generation gets full benefits. I say the DACA "kids" themselves can get legal residence, but that's enough. We've paid enough for the law-breaking of their parents.
Who are these mythical people getting all the government subsidies? Working people get Medicaid and food stamps. Think about that. People work hard and can’t afford basics like food. How can you begrudge anyone with a job getting food stamps?!
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:40
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi hosted a dinner last night for all the Dems in the House at a fancy restaurant to celebrate their shutting down of the Govt. Wonder if the tax payers picked up the check for the 200 plus?
What?? Close to a million tax-paying Americans will may have no paycheck for a month, thanks to the Dems' first priority of defending illegals, and she's celebrating at a fancy restaurant at taxpayer expense? I sure hope the witch paid for it. She's a multi-millionnaire.
Who heads all branches of government!!!!
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:38
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Why hasn’t the Donald shown his face through all of this?
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:38
Subject: Re:Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Nancy Pelosi hosted a dinner last night for all the Dems in the House at a fancy restaurant to celebrate their shutting down of the Govt. Wonder if the tax payers picked up the check for the 200 plus?
What?? Close to a million tax-paying Americans will may have no paycheck for a month, thanks to the Dems' first priority of defending illegals, and she's celebrating at a fancy restaurant at taxpayer expense? I sure hope the witch paid for it. She's a multi-millionnaire.
Anonymous
01/21/2018 07:36
Subject: Shutdown Rhetoric
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:jsteele wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t use chip, but I have a child with special needs and I know what that means for healthcare costs and family security.
I am upset that Schumer prioritises undocumented over locking in the six year chip extension.
The Republicans could put a standalone CHIP bill on the floor at any time and it would pass with bipartisan support. You should be upset that the Republicans are using poor children as hostages.
Standalone chip- I agree.
How about a stand-alone budget? Schumer filibustering that one.
Thee bills that would pass are standalone DACA, Standalone CHIP and standalone budget. The dems don't trust the GIP to bring the first two to the floor (both could have been done any time over the past 4 months, but McConnell refused) so are simply asking for these popular bills to be brought together.
Why is McConnell refusing?
He has already betrayed Sen Collins on healthcare. He is proving to not be a reliable partner in this and it is being exposed, bigly.
How about a stand alone wall?
People know Schumer puts illegals kids over chip, and may he rot in hell for it.