Anonymous
06/23/2017 09:22
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
He was not on "life support".
Depends what you mean by life support. True, he was breathing on his own (lower brain function), but he obviously was being nourished through a tube. My point is that even if they withheld that, he could have lingered for weeks. I think he may have known on some level that he was home and "let go," but the more likely scenario is that he was near death anyway, and the final plane trip overtook him. Such a sad story, either way.
[b]Apparently his family said that when he arrived in Cincinnati he seemed distressed, but that he started calming down over the following days. His parents think he knew on some level that he was back home.
[b]That's somewhat soothing, if in fact he did know he was home, but a horrible fate nonetheless. May he RIP.[/quote
+1. He was laid to rest yesterday. The Post wrote a great article, if you missed it. What a loss to the world, he sounds like a great guy. His siblings spoke at the funeral and pictures were shown of him throwing snowballs with children in North Korea. He preferred hugs to handshakes and loved to give unexpected gifts to people.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/grade-point/wp/2017/06/22/lets-bring-it-in-otto-warmbiers-family-and-friends-celebrate-his-life/?utm_term=.23981e641eab
Anonymous
06/22/2017 12:40
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
He was not on "life support".
Depends what you mean by life support. True, he was breathing on his own (lower brain function), but he obviously was being nourished through a tube. My point is that even if they withheld that, he could have lingered for weeks. I think he may have known on some level that he was home and "let go," but the more likely scenario is that he was near death anyway, and the final plane trip overtook him. Such a sad story, either way.
Apparently his family said that when he arrived in Cincinnati he seemed distressed, but that he started calming down over the following days. His parents think he knew on some level that he was back home.
That's somewhat soothing, if in fact he did know he was home, but a horrible fate nonetheless. May he RIP.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 12:34
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
He was not on "life support".
Depends what you mean by life support. True, he was breathing on his own (lower brain function), but he obviously was being nourished through a tube. My point is that even if they withheld that, he could have lingered for weeks. I think he may have known on some level that he was home and "let go," but the more likely scenario is that he was near death anyway, and the final plane trip overtook him. Such a sad story, either way.
Apparently his family said that when he arrived in Cincinnati he seemed distressed, but that he started calming down over the following days. His parents think he knew on some level that he was back home.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 12:15
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Cold frosty bitch. If it were your own kid ...you wouldn't say this....I know, I know...your precious snowflake would have NEVER done something like this
Anonymous wrote:he did this to himself
he stole a flag and paid the price.
Just the fact that it is illegal to take a stupid poster of a horrible man down in some parts of this world and that poor boy lost his life because of it shows that this planet is hell. Human beings are stupid and evil. That young man should be alive. North Korea's stupid laws killed him.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 11:23
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Why should the US government compensate his parents? Serious question. I get that we all feel terrible for them, but it's not the USG fault that Otto was in North Korea against state dept warnings. I suppose they could sue if they thought the the US government had been negligent, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually wound up with a bill for their son's transportation.
Can we assume that you also feel this way about young men and women who make bad choices despite warnings re drug use, babies with multiple dads, burglaries and robberies, shooting innocent strangers, etc?
You beat me to the punch. The US compensates it's citizens for all sorts of stupid choices.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 11:19
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
Who says this was the governments decision and not the parents? Did you read their statement on it? Sounds like it was their decision. Good grief.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 11:01
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Why should the US government compensate his parents? Serious question. I get that we all feel terrible for them, but it's not the USG fault that Otto was in North Korea against state dept warnings. I suppose they could sue if they thought the the US government had been negligent, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually wound up with a bill for their son's transportation.
Can we assume that you also feel this way about young men and women who make bad choices despite warnings re drug use, babies with multiple dads, burglaries and robberies, shooting innocent strangers, etc?
What are you talking about? I asked on what grounds the PP thought the government should "compensate Otto's parents"?
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:54
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Why should the US government compensate his parents? Serious question. I get that we all feel terrible for them, but it's not the USG fault that Otto was in North Korea against state dept warnings. I suppose they could sue if they thought the the US government had been negligent, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually wound up with a bill for their son's transportation.
Can we assume that you also feel this way about young men and women who make bad choices despite warnings re drug use, babies with multiple dads, burglaries and robberies, shooting innocent strangers, etc?
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:54
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Why should the US government compensate his parents? Serious question. I get that we all feel terrible for them, but it's not the USG fault that Otto was in North Korea against state dept warnings. I suppose they could sue if they thought the the US government had been negligent, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually wound up with a bill for their son's transportation.
That sounds reasonable. They need to fund golf carts for USSS somehow...
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:48
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Cold frosty bitch. If it were your own kid ...you wouldn't say this....I know, I know...your precious snowflake would have NEVER done something like this
Anonymous wrote:he did this to himself
he stole a flag and paid the price.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:36
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Why should the US government compensate his parents? Serious question. I get that we all feel terrible for them, but it's not the USG fault that Otto was in North Korea against state dept warnings. I suppose they could sue if they thought the the US government had been negligent, but I wouldn't be surprised if they actually wound up with a bill for their son's transportation.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:27
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
He was not on "life support".
Depends what you mean by life support. True, he was breathing on his own (lower brain function), but he obviously was being nourished through a tube. My point is that even if they withheld that, he could have lingered for weeks. I think he may have known on some level that he was home and "let go," but the more likely scenario is that he was near death anyway, and the final plane trip overtook him. Such a sad story, either way.
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:17
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
\Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
He was not on "life support".
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:13
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
Anonymous wrote:regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.
Who says they cut off life support? Wouldn't it have taken weeks to die rather than a few days?
Anonymous
06/22/2017 10:03
Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?
regardless, I think US government should compensate Otto's parents with some $$. They could have kept Otto on live support for another year or more on taxpayer's money but decided it's meaningless.