Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 15:01     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Congrats Union, between the two BRAVE coaches who are taking over Union teams the two coaches have a combined record of 9-36-5 across 4 teams this season.

Yeah, McLean families have every right to be worried.



Start teaching your kids how to play kickball so they will make the team.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:57     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Congrats Union, between the two BRAVE coaches who are taking over Union teams the two coaches have a combined record of 9-36-5 across 4 teams this season.

Yeah, McLean families have every right to be worried.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:50     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am exhausted. Could someone just announce the coaches and ID sessions already?


+100


They're still debating about who will take what.


Lock it up MV will be the 2008 coach for the girls... McLean's parents are worried now


Considering his leadership drove BRAVE into a merger or out of ECNL and his 09 team is in dead last, it is safe to say anyone who gets him should feel worried.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:44     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am exhausted. Could someone just announce the coaches and ID sessions already?


+100


They're still debating about who will take what.


Lock it up MV will be the 2008 coach for the girls... McLean's parents are worried now
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
BRYC was never a founding ECNL member. BRYC and Loudoun were both added after DA. FCV and McLean were the only founding members in NOVA.

Know your history.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:17     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

That’s “FVU”



I know you are disappointed because now you can’t make fun of FVU. It’s FXU, check the new logo.


C'mon it's forever McBrave, low budget fast food knock-off. Ya get it? Also, Union girls arent good enouh for Arlington see previous posts, Arlington moms are sharpening their pens and preparing their summer homes for team auctions


Arlington is the weakest club on the girls side of all the NoVA ECNL teams. They only have one good team on the girls side (the 2011s). So there is plenty of space for stronger Union and Brave girls to displace current team members (if results of ID sessions are based on talent and not loyalty). Here are the ECNL Mid-Atlantic rankings for Arlington teams:

2007s - 5th place
2008s - 10th place
2009s - 9th place
2010s - 7th place
2011s - 1st place

But beware Union or Brave girls before heading to Arlington - they lack a college recruiting infrastructure and with the low rankings of most of their teams it'll be hard to get yourself in front of college coaches.


Here's your history lesson for those who just started following the local soccer scene. The environment here changes constantly and it just takes a quick glance around the forum to see that every club has put kids in college, youth national id sessions (2 different camps run by different groups even!), and ultimately professionally. In fact, many of those kids played for multiple clubs over the course of their youth soccer career. Find what's best for your kid right now and re-evaluate each year, because that's what the clubs and coaches are doing too. There are positives and negatives in every one of the situations.

Arlington girls (what you reference) are actually the newest ECNL team in the area, starting in Fall 2021-present. This is only their 3rd season as a girls ECNL program. For the 3 seasons prior to that, they were a DA (then GA) girls program, running Fall 2018-Spring 2021. For the 3 seasons prior to that, Fall 2015-Spring 2018, Arlington and Mclean were in an alliance/union. That journey sound familiar? Here's your research in an attempt to short circuit screams of anguish from coaches and administrators and trolls.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/northern-virginia-club-arlington-soccer-joining-ecnl-girls/

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/arlington-soccer-joins-girls-da-receives-boys-da-expansion/

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mclean-youth-soccer-and-arlington-soccer-form-ecnl-alliance-0



Loudoun followed a similar path in the opposite direction. They were an ECNL alliance with FCV, then switching together in Fall 2017 to become founding members of the girls DA as an alliance, then Loudoun split off into ECNL in fall 2018, before forming the NVA alliance for Fall 2023.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/loudoun-soccer-fc-virginia-announce-development-academy-partnership/

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/loudoun-soccer-joins-girls-ecnl-for-2018-2019-season/

BRAVE was an alliance, but BRYC was a founding member of ECNL as was Mclean, so both of those clubs have the benefit of being around for 15 years. During those early years, there were only 40 clubs and they were the only 2 in the DMV until FCV came along and made it a party of 3. In the meantime, the population of the DC metro area has grown by about 10%, while the number of "elite" clubs has now more than doubled since those early days, whether you count 5+2 or 4+3 on ECNL & GA.

Boys are similar with many more MLS Next/ECNL teams than 15 years ago, although they ultimately feed into the DCU academy so eventually do all consolidate the best possible DC area team.


BRYC was never a founding ECNL member. BRYC and Loudoun were both added after DA. FCV and McLean were the only founding members in NOVA.

Know your history.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:14     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will affected Union or Brave players consider the GA teams at FCV or VRSC? With FCV’s top players likely leaving for ECNL programs, the new coaching staff at FCV and the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


Revolution will get lots of kids from FCV. Maybe not a whole team, but close to it in some cases. If are talking about groups of kids, you could take a whole team to FCV at almost any age. Same for older age groups at SYC. It’s not a bad option if 2006, 2007, or 2008 kids that want to stay together.


The question is whether the top FCV GA players have enough faith in their old coaches to follow them to a new club with a poor track record or will they take the safe route to college by moving to VDA / Union / NVA / BSC? If the top players leave, everyone scatters. Hence the question whether displaced Union or Brave players would consider the GA programs.


They do. They were all at the ID sessions last night and the week before with some kids with Brave backpacks
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:12     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:

That’s “FVU”



I know you are disappointed because now you can’t make fun of FVU. It’s FXU, check the new logo.


C'mon it's forever McBrave, low budget fast food knock-off. Ya get it? Also, Union girls arent good enouh for Arlington see previous posts, Arlington moms are sharpening their pens and preparing their summer homes for team auctions


Arlington is the weakest club on the girls side of all the NoVA ECNL teams. They only have one good team on the girls side (the 2011s). So there is plenty of space for stronger Union and Brave girls to displace current team members (if results of ID sessions are based on talent and not loyalty). Here are the ECNL Mid-Atlantic rankings for Arlington teams:

2007s - 5th place
2008s - 10th place
2009s - 9th place
2010s - 7th place
2011s - 1st place

But beware Union or Brave girls before heading to Arlington - they lack a college recruiting infrastructure and with the low rankings of most of their teams it'll be hard to get yourself in front of college coaches.


Here's your history lesson for those who just started following the local soccer scene. The environment here changes constantly and it just takes a quick glance around the forum to see that every club has put kids in college, youth national id sessions (2 different camps run by different groups even!), and ultimately professionally. In fact, many of those kids played for multiple clubs over the course of their youth soccer career. Find what's best for your kid right now and re-evaluate each year, because that's what the clubs and coaches are doing too. There are positives and negatives in every one of the situations.

Arlington girls (what you reference) are actually the newest ECNL team in the area, starting in Fall 2021-present. This is only their 3rd season as a girls ECNL program. For the 3 seasons prior to that, they were a DA (then GA) girls program, running Fall 2018-Spring 2021. For the 3 seasons prior to that, Fall 2015-Spring 2018, Arlington and Mclean were in an alliance/union. That journey sound familiar? Here's your research in an attempt to short circuit screams of anguish from coaches and administrators and trolls.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/northern-virginia-club-arlington-soccer-joining-ecnl-girls/

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/arlington-soccer-joins-girls-da-receives-boys-da-expansion/

https://patch.com/virginia/mclean/mclean-youth-soccer-and-arlington-soccer-form-ecnl-alliance-0



Loudoun followed a similar path in the opposite direction. They were an ECNL alliance with FCV, then switching together in Fall 2017 to become founding members of the girls DA as an alliance, then Loudoun split off into ECNL in fall 2018, before forming the NVA alliance for Fall 2023.

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/loudoun-soccer-fc-virginia-announce-development-academy-partnership/

https://www.soccerwire.com/news/loudoun-soccer-joins-girls-ecnl-for-2018-2019-season/

BRAVE was an alliance, but BRYC was a founding member of ECNL as was Mclean, so both of those clubs have the benefit of being around for 15 years. During those early years, there were only 40 clubs and they were the only 2 in the DMV until FCV came along and made it a party of 3. In the meantime, the population of the DC metro area has grown by about 10%, while the number of "elite" clubs has now more than doubled since those early days, whether you count 5+2 or 4+3 on ECNL & GA.

Boys are similar with many more MLS Next/ECNL teams than 15 years ago, although they ultimately feed into the DCU academy so eventually do all consolidate the best possible DC area team.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:10     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will affected Union or Brave players consider the GA teams at FCV or VRSC? With FCV’s top players likely leaving for ECNL programs, the new coaching staff at FCV and the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


Revolution will get lots of kids from FCV. Maybe not a whole team, but close to it in some cases. If are talking about groups of kids, you could take a whole team to FCV at almost any age. Same for older age groups at SYC. It’s not a bad option if 2006, 2007, or 2008 kids that want to stay together.


The question is whether the top FCV GA players have enough faith in their old coaches to follow them to a new club with a poor track record or will they take the safe route to college by moving to VDA / Union / NVA / BSC? If the top players leave, everyone scatters. Hence the question whether displaced Union or Brave players would consider the GA programs.


If you are a “displaced” player, don’t you have to consider the GA programs? What’s the alternative, take a PT with Funion and a shaky RL team - BRYC, Vienna or McLean?
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 14:01     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will affected Union or Brave players consider the GA teams at FCV or VRSC? With FCV’s top players likely leaving for ECNL programs, the new coaching staff at FCV and the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


Revolution will get lots of kids from FCV. Maybe not a whole team, but close to it in some cases. If are talking about groups of kids, you could take a whole team to FCV at almost any age. Same for older age groups at SYC. It’s not a bad option if 2006, 2007, or 2008 kids that want to stay together.


The question is whether the top FCV GA players have enough faith in their old coaches to follow them to a new club with a poor track record or will they take the safe route to college by moving to VDA / Union / NVA / BSC? If the top players leave, everyone scatters. Hence the question whether displaced Union or Brave players would consider the GA programs.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 13:54     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:…the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


Don’t suggest that to the Revolution parents over in the VRSC thread! Even though they didn’t know what GA was 2 weeks ago and their girls teams have won a combined 2 games while losing 19 games in EDP, they have plenty of homegrown talent and are ready to take the Mid-Atlantic by storm next year! They don’t need any stinking FCV GA players or anybody else to save them! 😂


The VRSC (former FCV) coaches know they need talent and it’s not coming from legacy VRSC teams. They had been banking on picking up a bunch of FCV players, but maybe combining two ECNL programs might give them a lifeline and splitting one GA program into two might give Union and Brave players another option.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 13:50     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:Will affected Union or Brave players consider the GA teams at FCV or VRSC? With FCV’s top players likely leaving for ECNL programs, the new coaching staff at FCV and the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


Revolution will get lots of kids from FCV. Maybe not a whole team, but close to it in some cases. If are talking about groups of kids, you could take a whole team to FCV at almost any age. Same for older age groups at SYC. It’s not a bad option if 2006, 2007, or 2008 kids that want to stay together.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 13:49     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:…the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


Don’t suggest that to the Revolution parents over in the VRSC thread! Even though they didn’t know what GA was 2 weeks ago and their girls teams have won a combined 2 games while losing 19 games in EDP, they have plenty of homegrown talent and are ready to take the Mid-Atlantic by storm next year! They don’t need any stinking FCV GA players or anybody else to save them! 😂
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 13:49     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will affected Union or Brave players consider the GA teams at FCV or VRSC? With FCV’s top players likely leaving for ECNL programs, the new coaching staff at FCV and the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


That's pretty far away. What level?


First team for every GA / ECNL year. Who knows what actually happens, but with the entire GA coaching staff leaving FCV (most to build the new GA program at VRSC and one to lead VDA’s ECNL program) it seems likely FCV will lose a bunch of their GA players. VRSC is hoping many follow the FCV coaches to VRSC, but that is far from certain as top players are reportedly looking to move to ECNL teams (your kids may have seen some FCV bags at Union and Brave practices lately). One very big game of musical chairs.
Anonymous
Post 02/23/2024 13:48     Subject: ECNL forcing Brave & Union Partnership
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Will affected Union or Brave players consider the GA teams at FCV or VRSC? With FCV’s top players likely leaving for ECNL programs, the new coaching staff at FCV and the former FCV coaching staff now at VRSC desperately need talent.


That's pretty far away. What level?


Further AND pricier