Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 11:00     Subject: Re:Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:Wilson: https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/14/alexandria-mayor-potomac-yard-arena-will-have-minimal-parking-but-metro-station-currently-inadequate/

“The city’s interest in these early discussions has been in keeping the number of parking spaces on this site at a minimum because we do not want a lot of vehicles accessing this use,” Wilson said. “This is intended to be a transit arena, a transit operation, that’s why we invested in a Metro station.”


The toll should help along with the increase parking fees.
Wilson said the new Potomac Yard will have a “significant net reduction” in parking spaces at the site.

“The intent is to ensure that we do not have people beyond a small core accessing this by vehicle,” Wilson said. “We will continue to push to keep parking at a minimum.”


The fact remains is that the roads around PY are already highly saturated. For Wilson to have any support by city residents, he knows that this is a huge issue - probably the most important one. Widening Rt 1 is not an option. The only option is making sure public transit is strong. You gotta metro in, fans. Leave your Yukons at home.



Wilson is going to peace out of Alexandria in less than a year. He will have no oversight or responsibility for approvals that occur after that point.


This is why he isn't running for re-election, which he just announced on December 1. He's going to sign off on this deal, putting the city of Alexandria on the hook for a bunch of debt. And then he's going to take a lucrative job at JBG or Monumental Sports, or perhaps one of the vendors servicing Monumental. You can book it.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 11:00     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

As to Metro coverage, if one or two stops on the green line is sufficient for Nats Park and Audi Field, why do people believe that PY would be insufficient to handle crowds. I have not traversed the pedestrian bridge and that is one obvious choke point. Are there others?

As to PY, I recall the National Park Sevice being very protective of the views from the GW Parkway to the point that, from WMATA's view, the station placement is suboptimal. From what I've seen, the proposed stadium would be even more triggering of NPS's design veto. Is my recollection correct here? If so, has there been any questionin of/reaction from NPS?
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:59     Subject: Re:Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:I live in Fairfax and have partial season tix to the Caps and Wiz and like that I can pay $15 to park ~ a block away and then be home in 35/40 minutes post game. Neither of those things are going to happen in PY so I will give up my tix and maybe go to a couple of games a year, well planned and on a weekend afternoon.


From the arena, you can take the bus rapid transit to car parks in Crystal City, Pentagon City, or Old Town.


I think they’ll have to resort to buses/shuttles to parking structures. Do the current parking structures along the Metroway (w/dedicated bus lanes) have capacity?
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:58     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:The arena will hold events throughout the year why is the focus strictly on the two teams? I personally would love to take my children to see Taylor Swift without feeling unsafe in DC.


You are no going to make up for the 80+ nights automatically gone by moving the teams.

Its really sad what happened to this city in just 3 years.

Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:56     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!


What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.


Having a few more neighbors is different than thousands of new people clogging up your streets and parking spaces.


Yes, I get that. It’s amazing how your views change when a proposal impacts your home and neighborhood.


If it’s not your BY then YIMBY/NIMBY is irrelevant.


Nope, not true. YIMBYs frequently tell NIMBYs that they have no say over what happens in their backyard.

Also YIMBY means yes in my backyard. Meaning you are a YES for it happening in your backyard.


They are a yes for it happening in their own backyard.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:56     Subject: Re:Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:I live in Fairfax and have partial season tix to the Caps and Wiz and like that I can pay $15 to park ~ a block away and then be home in 35/40 minutes post game. Neither of those things are going to happen in PY so I will give up my tix and maybe go to a couple of games a year, well planned and on a weekend afternoon.


From the arena, you can take the bus rapid transit to car parks in Crystal City, Pentagon City, or Old Town.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:53     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:Suck it DC. You’re losers, your pols are losers, and you are getting everything you deserve for electing all of the idiots you have running the city.


Well deserved. Now just keep all the crime in your borders, please.


LOL if you don't think the crime will bleed to PY after this is built..it's inevitable


We’re Virginia not DC rights to bear arms and we prosecute


irrelevant. crime is trending up in Nova too. Nova is just as progressive as DC. You just have the bucktoothed rural people who give some balance.

For the most part, outside a few blocks in Old Town, Alexandria is a cess pool just as parts of DC are.


You are an ignorant fool.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:49     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!


What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.


Having a few more neighbors is different than thousands of new people clogging up your streets and parking spaces.


Yes, I get that. It’s amazing how your views change when a proposal impacts your home and neighborhood.


If it’s not your BY then YIMBY/NIMBY is irrelevant.


Nope, not true. YIMBYs frequently tell NIMBYs that they have no say over what happens in their backyard.

Also YIMBY means yes in my backyard. Meaning you are a YES for it happening in your backyard.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:48     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.


One news source said the city is committing 50M for an underground garage. And the City barely has any parking staff to patrol, so this will likely cost the city quite a bit of extra money to regulate.

It also hurts local residents who do not have parking stickers for those blocks but want to visit friends, go to dinner in Del Ray, etc.


WASPS not having ample parking for a dinner party. What a joke!


Love how you skipped over the 50M parking garage and lack of staff to regulate parking. Is that really best you can do? Be smarter.


“Smarter” you don’t need staff to regulate parking. Arlington is proof, case and point.




Insightfully point. I was wondering if Alexandria would adopt Arlington’s parking technology.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:46     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

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Anonymous wrote:I heard Mayor Wilson speak last night, and he said part of the agreement was to seriously limit parking (<4k spaces total), and likely zone all streets for quite a distance to be residential only. Not saying I trust the mayor, but as a nearby resident, that is the only thing that could get me on board. No one wants your giant 3-row SUV clogging up traffic and parking.


One news source said the city is committing 50M for an underground garage. And the City barely has any parking staff to patrol, so this will likely cost the city quite a bit of extra money to regulate.

It also hurts local residents who do not have parking stickers for those blocks but want to visit friends, go to dinner in Del Ray, etc.


WASPS not having ample parking for a dinner party. What a joke!


Love how you skipped over the 50M parking garage and lack of staff to regulate parking. Is that really best you can do? Be smarter.


“Smarter” you don’t need staff to regulate parking. Arlington is proof, case and point.



Your response doesn’t really make sense. But Wilson is the one proposing new residential districts as a solution, not me. Why is Wilson proposing that as a solution if it’s not viable?
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:45     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:We all breathed a sign of relief when Dan Snyder left; now it's Ted Leonsis who is playing us for suckers.


Yeah, why do we have such terrible owners.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:45     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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lol. never thought I’d see the day but indeed. Nimby power, activate!


What’s more interesting is to see the YIMBYs against this. I would be careful making this a standard YIMBY/NIMBY issue.

But it is kind of amazing to watch the ALX YIMBYs get frazzled when it happens in THEIR backyard.


Having a few more neighbors is different than thousands of new people clogging up your streets and parking spaces.


Yes, I get that. It’s amazing how your views change when a proposal impacts your home and neighborhood.


If it’s not your BY then YIMBY/NIMBY is irrelevant.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:45     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

We all breathed a sign of relief when Dan Snyder left; now it's Ted Leonsis who is playing us for suckers.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:43     Subject: Re:Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Wilson: https://www.alxnow.com/2023/12/14/alexandria-mayor-potomac-yard-arena-will-have-minimal-parking-but-metro-station-currently-inadequate/

“The city’s interest in these early discussions has been in keeping the number of parking spaces on this site at a minimum because we do not want a lot of vehicles accessing this use,” Wilson said. “This is intended to be a transit arena, a transit operation, that’s why we invested in a Metro station.”


The toll should help along with the increase parking fees.
Wilson said the new Potomac Yard will have a “significant net reduction” in parking spaces at the site.

“The intent is to ensure that we do not have people beyond a small core accessing this by vehicle,” Wilson said. “We will continue to push to keep parking at a minimum.”


The fact remains is that the roads around PY are already highly saturated. For Wilson to have any support by city residents, he knows that this is a huge issue - probably the most important one. Widening Rt 1 is not an option. The only option is making sure public transit is strong. You gotta metro in, fans. Leave your Yukons at home.



Wilson is going to peace out of Alexandria in less than a year. He will have no oversight or responsibility for approvals that occur after that point.
Anonymous
Post 12/14/2023 10:43     Subject: Wizards and Caps could be moving to Potomac Yard

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Suck it DC. You’re losers, your pols are losers, and you are getting everything you deserve for electing all of the idiots you have running the city.


Well deserved. Now just keep all the crime in your borders, please.


LOL if you don't think the crime will bleed to PY after this is built..it's inevitable


We’re Virginia not DC rights to bear arms and we prosecute


irrelevant. crime is trending up in Nova too. Nova is just as progressive as DC. You just have the bucktoothed rural people who give some balance.

For the most part, outside a few blocks in Old Town, Alexandria is a cess pool just as parts of DC are.