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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

My prediction is that the Elijah romance falls apart (maybe he has a dark side we haven't seen) and that Kevin and Madison ultimately end up together. I think Elijah is written to be unlikable for a reason.

Yes, they purposely seem to be giving us bad vibes. So if he is asking her because he feels she’s above his league, is that love? Will she realize that before she says yes? Or will she realize she’s not really in love with him? She is so in tuned to Kevin and his feelings and moods, she’s still in love with him.

She just told Kevin she really loves Elijah and she's excited he's proposing.

I don't think we can automatically take this at face value.

It could be her pride speaking after Kevin couldn't say he loved her. She could also be saying it to reassure Kevin that she was okay and he shouldn't feel guilty about not loving her.

Both of those explanations would make perfect sense for her character and their relationship.

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Anonymous wrote:Little Jack is so cute! And a great actor!

No kidding! I kept watching to see if they were dubbing his lines or editing like crazy, because that was pretty incredible.

I wonder if the little actor's blindness had an impact on that. I could imagine that a vision impairment might heighten the kid's perception and emotional intelligence in a way that translates into better acting skill, even at that tiny age.

Great point. Yes, the little guy was fantastic and hope we see more of him!

I agree! What a great actor and an adorable kid. It was heartbreaking when he said he went to the park because “that’s where mommy and daddy are happy.”

I also agree with the PP who asked why Kate wasn’t there with Rebecca at the park. If my kid—whether with vision impairment or not—had wandered off and someone had a hunch about where she was, you can bet I would be running like the wind to get to her. Meanwhile, Rebecca gets to the park, finds Jack, hugs him, talks to him, etc. and Kate is nowhere to be found.

Didn't Rebecca kind of take off as soon as she realized the rain boots were gone? And everyone else was running around freaking out?

I'm really not going to criticize Kate for not being everywhere all at once. I've had my kid disappear almost in front of my eyes at a huge international airport. I found her very soon after, but there's a panic of what do I do next and you have every possibility running through your head all at once.

Everyone is making assumptions that Kate sat on her ass on the couch while Rebecca went and Saved Jack! For all we know she ran back inside to grab Toby and they drove to the park which took an extra minute. We only saw 20 seconds after Rebecca got to him!

I assumed this is what happened. Kate wasn't going to run all that way (although mothers do superhuman things when they're children are in danger!), and Toby had blood on his shirt from holding Jack so must have carried him home/held held him on the way to the hospital.

Can I just say, also, how much I love Rebecca? She was wonderful in this scene. She's really fantastic in every single episode.

I wonder what Mandy Moore will do when this series ends. I hope we don't have to wait too long to find out.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

Agree that he has a really creepy vibe. The writers haven't done anything to mitigate that feeling, either. There haven't been any scenes where he's cute or tender with the twins or even with Madison. He's never been seen to show any kind of care or sensitivity toward her. Any interactions that could be characterized as a positive portrayal of their relationship are mostly him just trying to charm or engage her in an "see what smart or witty guy I am" kind of way. Mostly he just seems to be intent on staking his claim vis à vis Kevin.

If he turned out to be a stalker, I'd be like, "Yup, saw that coming."

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if the Big Green Egg company asked them not to make their grill a villain.

Seriously, first the crock pot and then the Green Egg. Two appliance villains would have been super lazy writing. I like this episode and I thought the big fight between Toby and Kate was well acted and written. I felt the contempt, resentment and hurt from both of them.

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Anonymous wrote:Little Jack is so cute! And a great actor!

No kidding! I kept watching to see if they were dubbing his lines or editing like crazy, because that was pretty incredible.

I wonder if the little actor's blindness had an impact on that. I could imagine that a vision impairment might heighten the kid's perception and emotional intelligence in a way that translates into better acting skill, even at that tiny age.

Great point. Yes, the little guy was fantastic and hope we see more of him!

I agree! What a great actor and an adorable kid. It was heartbreaking when he said he went to the park because “that’s where mommy and daddy are happy.”

I also agree with the PP who asked why Kate wasn’t there with Rebecca at the park. If my kid—whether with vision impairment or not—had wandered off and someone had a hunch about where she was, you can bet I would be running like the wind to get to her. Meanwhile, Rebecca gets to the park, finds Jack, hugs him, talks to him, etc. and Kate is nowhere to be found.

Didn't Rebecca kind of take off as soon as she realized the rain boots were gone? And everyone else was running around freaking out?

I'm really not going to criticize Kate for not being everywhere all at once. I've had my kid disappear almost in front of my eyes at a huge international airport. I found her very soon after, but there's a panic of what do I do next and you have every possibility running through your head all at once.

Rebecca saw the rain boots and said, “the park!” Then she ran outside and told Kate, “he went to the park!” I do think it’s possible to be sort of paralyzed with shock, but Rebecca did tell Kate where she was going before she took off.

Yes, that's right. Maybe Kate did go get Toby at Gregory's then they drove, but I can't imagine he would have waited for anything at that point and would have run. But they didn't show us because a) time was limited and it wasn't essential to the plot, focus was on Rebecca and Jack and b) they didn't want to draw attention to the issue of Kate's physical challenges in that situation.

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Anonymous wrote:The writers always have a twist. What if the ‘death’ scene is not Rebecca? Maybe Kate?

Not possible. I just watched it. It’s definitely Rebecca.

I just re-watched it. I believe we are seeing TWO death scenes.

Randall has gray in his hair and beard at the beginning. He walks to the ‘bedroom’. The first glance at the door is a regular door handle for a home. It then switches to a hospital door handle and he enters a hospital room telling Rebecca he’s her son. No gray in the beard! So it’s NOT Rebecca in the home.

I agree, I watched the clip someone posted and the background is ever so slightly different than Kevin's wood walls. Randall is less grey, but wearing same outfit, so that is a little weird.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

My prediction is that the Elijah romance falls apart (maybe he has a dark side we haven't seen) and that Kevin and Madison ultimately end up together. I think Elijah is written to be unlikable for a reason.

Yes, they purposely seem to be giving us bad vibes. So if he is asking her because he feels she’s above his league, is that love? Will she realize that before she says yes? Or will she realize she’s not really in love with him? She is so in tuned to Kevin and his feelings and moods, she’s still in love with him.

She just told Kevin she really loves Elijah and she's excited he's proposing.

Sounded to me like she was trying to convince Kevin.

I thought she was genuine, very sweet when she said it. But is Elijah a good guy or not? Not sure.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

My prediction is that the Elijah romance falls apart (maybe he has a dark side we haven't seen) and that Kevin and Madison ultimately end up together. I think Elijah is written to be unlikable for a reason.

Yes, they purposely seem to be giving us bad vibes. So if he is asking her because he feels she’s above his league, is that love? Will she realize that before she says yes? Or will she realize she’s not really in love with him? She is so in tuned to Kevin and his feelings and moods, she’s still in love with him.

She just told Kevin she really loves Elijah and she's excited he's proposing.

Sounded to me like she was trying to convince Kevin.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

My prediction is that the Elijah romance falls apart (maybe he has a dark side we haven't seen) and that Kevin and Madison ultimately end up together. I think Elijah is written to be unlikable for a reason.

Yes, they purposely seem to be giving us bad vibes. So if he is asking her because he feels she’s above his league, is that love? Will she realize that before she says yes? Or will she realize she’s not really in love with him? She is so in tuned to Kevin and his feelings and moods, she’s still in love with him.

She just told Kevin she really loves Elijah and she's excited he's proposing.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

My prediction is that the Elijah romance falls apart (maybe he has a dark side we haven't seen) and that Kevin and Madison ultimately end up together. I think Elijah is written to be unlikable for a reason.

Yes, they purposely seem to be giving us bad vibes. So if he is asking her because he feels she’s above his league, is that love? Will she realize that before she says yes? Or will she realize she’s not really in love with him? She is so in tuned to Kevin and his feelings and moods, she’s still in love with him.

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Anonymous wrote:Little Jack is so cute! And a great actor!

No kidding! I kept watching to see if they were dubbing his lines or editing like crazy, because that was pretty incredible.

I wonder if the little actor's blindness had an impact on that. I could imagine that a vision impairment might heighten the kid's perception and emotional intelligence in a way that translates into better acting skill, even at that tiny age.

Great point. Yes, the little guy was fantastic and hope we see more of him!

I agree! What a great actor and an adorable kid. It was heartbreaking when he said he went to the park because “that’s where mommy and daddy are happy.”

I also agree with the PP who asked why Kate wasn’t there with Rebecca at the park. If my kid—whether with vision impairment or not—had wandered off and someone had a hunch about where she was, you can bet I would be running like the wind to get to her. Meanwhile, Rebecca gets to the park, finds Jack, hugs him, talks to him, etc. and Kate is nowhere to be found.

Didn't Rebecca kind of take off as soon as she realized the rain boots were gone? And everyone else was running around freaking out?

I'm really not going to criticize Kate for not being everywhere all at once. I've had my kid disappear almost in front of my eyes at a huge international airport. I found her very soon after, but there's a panic of what do I do next and you have every possibility running through your head all at once.

Everyone is making assumptions that Kate sat on her ass on the couch while Rebecca went and Saved Jack! For all we know she ran back inside to grab Toby and they drove to the park which took an extra minute. We only saw 20 seconds after Rebecca got to him!

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

My prediction is that the Elijah romance falls apart (maybe he has a dark side we haven't seen) and that Kevin and Madison ultimately end up together. I think Elijah is written to be unlikable for a reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Little Jack is so cute! And a great actor!

No kidding! I kept watching to see if they were dubbing his lines or editing like crazy, because that was pretty incredible.

I wonder if the little actor's blindness had an impact on that. I could imagine that a vision impairment might heighten the kid's perception and emotional intelligence in a way that translates into better acting skill, even at that tiny age.

Great point. Yes, the little guy was fantastic and hope we see more of him!

I agree! What a great actor and an adorable kid. It was heartbreaking when he said he went to the park because “that’s where mommy and daddy are happy.”

I also agree with the PP who asked why Kate wasn’t there with Rebecca at the park. If my kid—whether with vision impairment or not—had wandered off and someone had a hunch about where she was, you can bet I would be running like the wind to get to her. Meanwhile, Rebecca gets to the park, finds Jack, hugs him, talks to him, etc. and Kate is nowhere to be found.

Didn't Rebecca kind of take off as soon as she realized the rain boots were gone? And everyone else was running around freaking out?

I'm really not going to criticize Kate for not being everywhere all at once. I've had my kid disappear almost in front of my eyes at a huge international airport. I found her very soon after, but there's a panic of what do I do next and you have every possibility running through your head all at once.

Rebecca saw the rain boots and said, “the park!” Then she ran outside and told Kate, “he went to the park!” I do think it’s possible to be sort of paralyzed with shock, but Rebecca did tell Kate where she was going before she took off.

BTW I’m so glad you found your kid! That must have been terrifying.

Thank you. It's been over 10 years and yes, it was terrifying. Thankfully, very short lived.

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Anonymous wrote:I haven’t given up on Madison or Sophie for Kevin! Madison loves the guy but still in love with Kevin.

So weird of Elijah going through her rings with a ring sizer and getting caught by Kevin.

Agree.

And I'll come right out and say it: I don't like Elijah. Dude gives me bad vibes and I don't trust him. I think it's INSANE that he is planning to propose. The twins are still really little. Are they even a year old? I feel like he's rushing things with Madison to edge Kevin out. I don't like it for Madison. It's not in her best interest.

Didn’t he basically say that he was sticking around because he realizes he punched above his weight with a woman like Madison, since he’s a shlub and she’s hot? Yeah, I agree — as they say, he’s not there for the right reasons.

Yes. All of this. It just really rubbed me the wrong way and I really haven't liked Elijah ever since.

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Anonymous wrote:Little Jack is so cute! And a great actor!

No kidding! I kept watching to see if they were dubbing his lines or editing like crazy, because that was pretty incredible.

I wonder if the little actor's blindness had an impact on that. I could imagine that a vision impairment might heighten the kid's perception and emotional intelligence in a way that translates into better acting skill, even at that tiny age.

Great point. Yes, the little guy was fantastic and hope we see more of him!

I agree! What a great actor and an adorable kid. It was heartbreaking when he said he went to the park because “that’s where mommy and daddy are happy.”

I also agree with the PP who asked why Kate wasn’t there with Rebecca at the park. If my kid—whether with vision impairment or not—had wandered off and someone had a hunch about where she was, you can bet I would be running like the wind to get to her. Meanwhile, Rebecca gets to the park, finds Jack, hugs him, talks to him, etc. and Kate is nowhere to be found.

Didn't Rebecca kind of take off as soon as she realized the rain boots were gone? And everyone else was running around freaking out?

I'm really not going to criticize Kate for not being everywhere all at once. I've had my kid disappear almost in front of my eyes at a huge international airport. I found her very soon after, but there's a panic of what do I do next and you have every possibility running through your head all at once.

Rebecca saw the rain boots and said, “the park!” Then she ran outside and told Kate, “he went to the park!” I do think it’s possible to be sort of paralyzed with shock, but Rebecca did tell Kate where she was going before she took off.

BTW I’m so glad you found your kid! That must have been terrifying.