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Anonymous wrote:Wow, every rationale possible is being used by the PPs in this thread to excuse the gun owners and their kid (the shooter) passing the blame to anyone else.

Not true. I blame:

The kid
The parents (maybe even more than the kid)
The school admin (for not calling police/searching the bag/sending the kid home)
The laws for giving this kid more rights than his fellow students.

I can blame many things at once. An absolutely tragedy that could have been prevented so many ways.

Tell me what rights this kid has that other kids do not. Name one.

You can't because this kid has no more rights than anyone else.

This kid has no more rights than any other kid. You sound like one of those insane anti-public school LCPS haters nutjobs. You are ignorant and don't understand the laws related to education. BTW if you are the same poster blaming IDEA and FAPE, YOU ARE AN IDIOT. FAPE AND IDEA have nothing to do with what happened with this kid and would not stop the school from sending the kid home.

So much ignorance posted here.

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Anonymous wrote:The school district, superintendent, and principal will and should have their pants sued off. Backwater idiots. The district is relatively tiny with only 7,000 total kids [note: Michigan does NOT have county-wide districts], and the payroll is full of white folks making six-figures, with superintendent Timothy Throne making over $204,000 in wages alone.

Source: https://www.mackinac.org/salaries?report=education&search=&sort=wage2020-desc&filter=oxford

+1 The teachers did everything right and the administration… did not.

The genius bloated brass of the 7,000 kid district:

Superintendent - Timothy Throne - $204,022

Asst. superintendent - Kenneth Weaver - $157,946

Asst. superintendent - Denise Sweat - $150,223

High school principal - Steven Wolf - $134,832

All 4 should be unemployed on Monday. And the principal and anyone else who knew about this kid’s issues should be charged with crimes.

Maybe consider getting this mad at the NRA and the gun culture in this country. I completely disagree with you.

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The school admins didn’t sit through that meeting with the knowledge that the kid had access to a gun that was purchased FOR HIM less than a week ago (or rather, on his behalf since he was too young by state laws to have a gun). It wasn’t until the first news reports started coming out that the parents even checked to see if the gun was missing.

Why didn’t they at a *minimum* check right when they got home from that meeting?! Or take a quick look in his backpack? Or take him home? Or lock the gun up? Or do ANYTHING beyond enable?! Instead, the mother texted her son after the meeting that she wasn’t mad, but he would have to “get better” at not getting caught next time. It’s beyond negligence.

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Those parents knew they were wrong, but the only ones they cared about were themselves.

All you need to look at is the parenting forums here and see how true this is every excuse in the book for why little Larlo or Larla should be allowed to behave however the frick they want and everybody else just has to deal.

Some don’t care how many kids their child punches but better not tell him Santa might skip his house. That is unacceptable. The violence is not his fault. The brats just need to take it without complaint.

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Anonymous wrote:The school district, superintendent, and principal will and should have their pants sued off. Backwater idiots. The district is relatively tiny with only 7,000 total kids [note: Michigan does NOT have county-wide districts], and the payroll is full of white folks making six-figures, with superintendent Timothy Throne making over $204,000 in wages alone.

Source: https://www.mackinac.org/salaries?report=education&search=&sort=wage2020-desc&filter=oxford

+1 The teachers did everything right and the administration… did not.

The genius bloated brass of the 7,000 kid district:

Superintendent - Timothy Throne - $204,022

Asst. superintendent - Kenneth Weaver - $157,946

Asst. superintendent - Denise Sweat - $150,223

High school principal - Steven Wolf - $134,832

All 4 should be unemployed on Monday. And the principal and anyone else who knew about this kid’s issues should be charged with crimes.

Maybe consider getting this mad at the NRA and the gun culture in this country. I completely disagree with you.

+1

The school admins didn’t sit through that meeting with the knowledge that the kid had access to a gun that was purchased FOR HIM less than a week ago (or rather, on his behalf since he was too young by state laws to have a gun). It wasn’t until the first news reports started coming out that the parents even checked to see if the gun was missing.

Why didn’t they at a *minimum* check right when they got home from that meeting?! Or take a quick look in his backpack? Or take him home? Or lock the gun up? Or do ANYTHING beyond enable?! Instead, the mother texted her son after the meeting that she wasn’t mad, but he would have to “get better” at not getting caught next time. It’s beyond negligence.

+1

Those parents knew they were wrong, but the only ones they cared about were themselves.

All you need to look at is the parenting forums here and see how true this is every excuse in the book for why little Larlo or Larla should be allowed to behave however the frick they want and everybody else just has to deal.

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Anyone else befuddled that those who cry "nanny state!" suddenly want the school held accountable? Which one is it???

I find it more befuddling that some people want no one held accountable whatsoever, just throw out a bunch of bizarre reasons like eye spacing and essentially throw up their hands and say we can't do anything about these school shootings, oh well, let;s not try.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.

It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.

Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.

Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.

Did the mom of a shooter do this?

They’re talking about Sue Klebold, but they’re wrong.she donated the proceeds of her book and her speaking engagements. She DEFINITELY has not “made herself into a victim.” Instead she’s gone around the country and out herself out there for ill-informed ridicule and derision, telling her embarrassing and upsetting story over and over again and dedicating her life to school shooting and gun violence preve

And there has not been a school shooting since she started. She should have stayed home a shut the hell up, and it's a darn shame Colorado didn't have a DA with the balls to go after her and the other parents, maybe if they did instead of allowing a false bullying narrative to be created we would actually have less of these shootings because nobody would be idolizing her ltitle monster and parents would be making sure of that.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.

It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.

Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.

Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.

Did the mom of a shooter do this?

https://www.amothersreckoning.com/

Oh wow, that is sick. And I certainly wouldn’t call her son “promising.” She must have been delusional.

They need to pass a new law. Relatives, including immediate guardians, of mass shooters cannot in any way profit from selling the rights to the narrative of the events or the tragedies.

She didn't. She donated all proceeds.

Wow. I'm watching the Michigan/Iowa game. They had Tate Myre (one of the victims) family out on the field for the coin toss.

Anyone else befuddled that those who cry "nanny state!" suddenly want the school held accountable? Which one is it???

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.

You think they didn't do anything? They bought their mentally disturbed, underaged child a gun, and they didn't take him home when they knew he was thinking about shooting up the school. Yeah, they totally didn't do anything.

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Parenting FAIL.

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Anonymous wrote:The school district, superintendent, and principal will and should have their pants sued off. Backwater idiots. The district is relatively tiny with only 7,000 total kids [note: Michigan does NOT have county-wide districts], and the payroll is full of white folks making six-figures, with superintendent Timothy Throne making over $204,000 in wages alone.

Source: https://www.mackinac.org/salaries?report=education&search=&sort=wage2020-desc&filter=oxford

+1 The teachers did everything right and the administration… did not.

The genius bloated brass of the 7,000 kid district:

Superintendent - Timothy Throne - $204,022

Asst. superintendent - Kenneth Weaver - $157,946

Asst. superintendent - Denise Sweat - $150,223

High school principal - Steven Wolf - $134,832

All 4 should be unemployed on Monday. And the principal and anyone else who knew about this kid’s issues should be charged with crimes.

Maybe consider getting this mad at the NRA and the gun culture in this country. I completely disagree with you.

+1

The school admins didn’t sit through that meeting with the knowledge that the kid had access to a gun that was purchased FOR HIM less than a week ago (or rather, on his behalf since he was too young by state laws to have a gun). It wasn’t until the first news reports started coming out that the parents even checked to see if the gun was missing.

Why didn’t they at a *minimum* check right when they got home from that meeting?! Or take a quick look in his backpack? Or take him home? Or lock the gun up? Or do ANYTHING beyond enable?! Instead, the mother texted her son after the meeting that she wasn’t mad, but he would have to “get better” at not getting caught next time. It’s beyond negligence.

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Those parents knew they were wrong, but the only ones they cared about were themselves.

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Anonymous wrote:People, rich kids shoot up schools too. The Columbine kids and Adam Lanza were all upper middle class.

x1000000

- and both were severely bullied in school (pre cell phone).

It’s much worse now.

I don't know about Lanza, but the Columbine kids were not bullied that is a straight up lie.

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Bullying disproved several times, but those parents use it to threaten the schools and hold the schools captive the their chair throwers.

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Anonymous wrote:The school district, superintendent, and principal will and should have their pants sued off. Backwater idiots. The district is relatively tiny with only 7,000 total kids [note: Michigan does NOT have county-wide districts], and the payroll is full of white folks making six-figures, with superintendent Timothy Throne making over $204,000 in wages alone.

Source: https://www.mackinac.org/salaries?report=education&search=&sort=wage2020-desc&filter=oxford

+1 The teachers did everything right and the administration… did not.

The genius bloated brass of the 7,000 kid district:

Superintendent - Timothy Throne - $204,022

Asst. superintendent - Kenneth Weaver - $157,946

Asst. superintendent - Denise Sweat - $150,223

High school principal - Steven Wolf - $134,832

All 4 should be unemployed on Monday. And the principal and anyone else who knew about this kid’s issues should be charged with crimes.

Maybe consider getting this mad at the NRA and the gun culture in this country. I completely disagree with you.

+1

The school admins didn’t sit through that meeting with the knowledge that the kid had access to a gun that was purchased FOR HIM less than a week ago (or rather, on his behalf since he was too young by state laws to have a gun). It wasn’t until the first news reports started coming out that the parents even checked to see if the gun was missing.

Why didn’t they at a *minimum* check right when they got home from that meeting?! Or take a quick look in his backpack? Or take him home? Or lock the gun up? Or do ANYTHING beyond enable?! Instead, the mother texted her son after the meeting that she wasn’t mad, but he would have to “get better” at not getting caught next time. It’s beyond negligence.

Anonymous wrote:“It goes to the culture and climate of the school.” says Ralph Godbee, former Chief of the Detroit School Police. “The [Oxford Community Schools] administration fell asleep at the wheel. There’s no other way to put it.”

Good stuff. I remember that reporter, Charlie LeDuff, back when he won a Pulitzer at the NYT twenty years ago. Talented man. When he started crying I starting tearing up.

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Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.

It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.

Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.

Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.

Did the mom of a shooter do this?

https://www.amothersreckoning.com/

Oh wow, that is sick. And I certainly wouldn’t call her son “promising.” She must have been delusional.

They need to pass a new law. Relatives, including immediate guardians, of mass shooters cannot in any way profit from selling the rights to the narrative of the events or the tragedies.

She hasn’t profited. She donated all of the proceeds.