Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:48
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heartbroken. Even the detective sounds like his voice is breaking.
The FBI agent looks really shaken. So sad.
I thought he just looked really nervous.
He was shaken. I’m married to an FBI agent. And I train law enforcement every day. 🙁
What do you think would shake him so much? I obviously myself would be shaken but as a supervisory FBI agent I have to admit I am surprised he would be as he has to have seen plenty of DV cases, bodies etc. This is horribly sad please don’t get me wrong but I am just curious, I agree he seems quite shaken and I really feel for them all and the officers that stopped them that day.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:48
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:I think her parents are going to get millions of dollars in a lawsuit settlement from that backwater police department. Dipshit idiot cops.
What should they have done differently?
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:48
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
I knew these were legal adults. But it’s a shame the cops couldn’t call the parents and tell them maybe they want to come get their kid. Clearly both were very immature.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:47
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:I think her parents are going to get millions of dollars in a lawsuit settlement from that backwater police department. Dipshit idiot cops.
I think they read the situation completely wrong, but they did a good job. They are highway patrolmen, not psychiatrists.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:46
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just so sad. Ugh
She was lovely. He seems like a normal guy. A bit weird but like a million other sons, brothers, boyfriends. But he killed another human. Insane. It kind of makes me think about what we're all capable of
He spent the whole video trying to charm the police and worried about himself. Just like Chris Watts. If that’s a ‘million other sons, brothers, boyfriends’ and husbands - what does that say?
This is a very important question. But America protects this demographic so closely it will likely never be seriously answered.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:46
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew when the search dogs left it was her.
Can they make Brian as a suspect now? Please??? And charge the parents with obstruction/accessory after the fact? Lying scumbags.
Unless it was really obvious how she died they may have to wait for the autopsy. She could of died by accident or a drug overdose and he’s going to claim he was afraid and left.
Did you watch the police cam footage? He's a deranged liar who exerted control over her, insulted her, and blamed her for everything while she just took it. Okay? He killed her.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:45
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heartbroken. Even the detective sounds like his voice is breaking.
The FBI agent looks really shaken. So sad.
I thought he just looked really nervous.
He was shaken. I’m married to an FBI agent. And I train law enforcement every day. 🙁
He’s a senior agent - so he’s experienced. Would his demeanor be due to the cause/manner in which she died? Or he really believed they’d find her alive after three weeks?
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:45
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:This is so sad. I really feel for the police officers that stopped them. I do really think they were doing their best to assess the situation and it can be so difficult because dv victims have been manipulated and made to feel like the problem so deeply that they can be very convincing. And it’s also really hard for even well meaning men not to connect and collude with men who in fact are often abusers as you see the police officers doing in the video multiple times (both talk about their wives or ex wives having anxiety. Anyway they seemed like they cared about their job and were trying to do the best they could and are human like all of us and now I’m sure are feeling guilt about this. It seemed like one of the officers was new on the job and being trained. Ugh. It would be great if men would stop.killing.women. Uggh
The did everything they could possibly do. They took her aside. They were so kind to her. They offered her options. But, they couldn’t force her to stay away from him. I’m sure they are second guessing everything. I feel so bad for them.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:45
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
I think her parents are going to get millions of dollars in a lawsuit settlement from that backwater police department. Dipshit idiot cops.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:45
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just so sad. Ugh
She was lovely. He seems like a normal guy. A bit weird but like a million other sons, brothers, boyfriends. But he killed another human. Insane. It kind of makes me think about what we're all capable of
He spent the whole video trying to charm the police and worried about himself. Just like Chris Watts. If that’s a ‘million other sons, brothers, boyfriends’ and husbands - what does that say?
His interactions with the cops when she was still alive and they were pulled over were very similar to Chris Watts interactions. Uncanny, really, comparing their behavior.
Bet those cops feel absolutely terrible.
Perhaps.
But if any of the lunatic things said on this thread are any indication they probably don't.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:44
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heartbroken. Even the detective sounds like his voice is breaking.
The FBI agent looks really shaken. So sad.
I thought he just looked really nervous.
He was shaken. I’m married to an FBI agent. And I train law enforcement every day. 🙁
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:43
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
This is so sad. I really feel for the police officers that stopped them. I do really think they were doing their best to assess the situation and it can be so difficult because dv victims have been manipulated and made to feel like the problem so deeply that they can be very convincing. And it’s also really hard for even well meaning men not to connect and collude with men who in fact are often abusers as you see the police officers doing in the video multiple times (both talk about their wives or ex wives having anxiety. Anyway they seemed like they cared about their job and were trying to do the best they could and are human like all of us and now I’m sure are feeling guilt about this. It seemed like one of the officers was new on the job and being trained. Ugh. It would be great if men would stop.killing.women. Uggh
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:43
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I knew when the search dogs left it was her.
Can they make Brian as a suspect now? Please??? And charge the parents with obstruction/accessory after the fact? Lying scumbags.
Unless it was really obvious how she died they may have to wait for the autopsy. She could of died by accident or a drug overdose and he’s going to claim he was afraid and left.
He ran into the woods without telling anyone. He killed her.
If she had died accidentally or of a drug overdose (while he was in Wyoming) he would have gone to police or called someone.
If she was fine when he left Wyoming, he wouldn't have run off into the woods with his guilty conscience.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:42
Subject: Re:Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Heartbroken. Even the detective sounds like his voice is breaking.
The FBI agent looks really shaken. So sad.
I thought he just looked really nervous.
Anonymous
09/19/2021 18:42
Subject: Van Lifer couple camping in Utah national park - two weeks later fiancee arrives in FL alone
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It's just so sad. Ugh
She was lovely. He seems like a normal guy. A bit weird but like a million other sons, brothers, boyfriends. But he killed another human. Insane. It kind of makes me think about what we're all capable of
He spent the whole video trying to charm the police and worried about himself. Just like Chris Watts. If that’s a ‘million other sons, brothers, boyfriends’ and husbands - what does that say?
His interactions with the cops when she was still alive and they were pulled over were very similar to Chris Watts interactions. Uncanny, really, comparing their behavior.
Bet those cops feel absolutely terrible.