I have zero judgement for Jamie. Her world was blown apart a few months ago and then again yesterday - probably in a new way. I would bet money he didn't tell the whole truth. These guys that have been lying for over a decade never tell the whole truth. They admit to what is proven and generalize the rest to put it in a better light.

I'm sure she is extremely conflicted about what to do. She has people, probably in leadership telling her to stay and that he can be "redeemed and restored".

I’m completely speechless that Jamie would stay married to Aaron and like others have said it makes her complicit. I find it troubling. If I was her I wouldn’t even let him be around my children unsupervised. What is wrong with these people??? Your husband groomed minors. For YEARS.

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Anonymous wrote:Jamie is delusional if she thinks Aaron will be different. She is complicit in my opinion. More victims will come forward. What about her own sons? What message is she sending to them? They are disgusting.

Exactly!

Give her a minute. This is brand new info and I think it may change her position. And something I’m sure Aaron never fessed up to. You guys are so quick to judge. I’ll be super surprised if this isn’t the nail in the Ivey marriage coffin.
She’s not the monster here, but a victim as well.

Thank you for this reminder. We could all use more grace in our lives.

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Anonymous wrote:Jamie is delusional if she thinks Aaron will be different. She is complicit in my opinion. More victims will come forward. What about her own sons? What message is she sending to them? They are disgusting.

Exactly!

Give her a minute. This is brand new info and I think it may change her position. And something I’m sure Aaron never fessed up to. You guys are so quick to judge. I’ll be super surprised if this isn’t the nail in the Ivey marriage coffin.
She’s not the monster here, but a victim as well.

Anonymous wrote:Jamie is delusional if she thinks Aaron will be different. She is complicit in my opinion. More victims will come forward. What about her own sons? What message is she sending to them? They are disgusting.

Exactly!

Jamie is delusional if she thinks Aaron will be different. She is complicit in my opinion. More victims will come forward. What about her own sons? What message is she sending to them? They are disgusting.

I’m so disturbed my Jamie staying with Aaron. I looked up the instagram of the guy stating that he was abused and see that she follows him. Maybe after hearing first hand from those Aaron abused she’ll change her mind about him.

Anonymous wrote:Do these men have no honor at all? It bad enough to be a lying scumbag on the DL from your wife and church, but if you have to do that, use a male escort or someone outside the church that you were supposed to be shepherding. No wonder why the christian church is in decline.

I’ve found the church has attracted a lot of insecure, weak men who desperately crave affirmation, respect, and for some, power and domination.

Weak and skinless me who see an “easy” job with instant respect where they can quietly feed their egos and secret desires.

You ask where’s their honor? They have none. Never have.

Do these men have no honor at all? It bad enough to be a lying scumbag on the DL from your wife and church, but if you have to do that, use a male escort or someone outside the church that you were supposed to be shepherding. No wonder why the christian church is in decline.

See also Ted Haggard

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Anonymous wrote:Hatmaker-adjacent: Jamie Ivey posted that she is very hurt but her family has hope. I wonder how the next few months will go for them vs. the Hatmakers.

One of Aaron's victims came out yesterday - Aaron groomed and sexually abused him from ages 16-20, he met Aaron when he was 15. He is a son of a former elder at Austin Stone, which Austin Stone previously said in their public announcement when it all came out that the minor male involved wasn't connected to the church. So many lies.

His name is Logan, his story is posted on his Instagram _iamwildman_

He will never change. No matter how much praying is done. Girl needs to divorce his ass and move on with her life. I know she wants to have faith and hope that he can change, but he won't and this same thing will happen again.

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Anonymous wrote:I find it beyond reprehensible that she’s opting to stay married to this abuser who did this for years to multiple people who were minors. I have no doubt she’s been highly hurt by this situation, but opting to stay with Aaron makes me look at her differently. Almost like she’s complicit. Aaron gets to keep his little happy family unit intact while his victims will have to live with what he did to them.

I doubt it's a little happy family unit, even if it remains intact.

Agree for sure but that’s how she’ll portray it on social media.

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Anonymous wrote:Hatmaker-adjacent: Jamie Ivey posted that she is very hurt but her family has hope. I wonder how the next few months will go for them vs. the Hatmakers.

One of Aaron's victims came out yesterday - Aaron groomed and sexually abused him from ages 16-20, he met Aaron when he was 15. He is a son of a former elder at Austin Stone, which Austin Stone previously said in their public announcement when it all came out that the minor male involved wasn't connected to the church. So many lies.

His name is Logan, his story is posted on his Instagram _iamwildman_

How screwed in the head Jamie must be to think that her husband can “rehab” this away.

This is a deep cut but around the time that JH and BH announced their divorce the boys went on a rant about abusers in church. The families used to be close and I bet those kids are privy to a lot of these goingson.

By "the boys" do you mean Brandon and Aaron?

Anonymous wrote:I find it beyond reprehensible that she’s opting to stay married to this abuser who did this for years to multiple people who were minors. I have no doubt she’s been highly hurt by this situation, but opting to stay with Aaron makes me look at her differently. Almost like she’s complicit. Aaron gets to keep his little happy family unit intact while his victims will have to live with what he did to them.

I doubt it's a little happy family unit, even if it remains intact.

I listened to Jamie’s podcast return and there’s no acknowledgment to the victims and the pain her husband caused them. It’s just all about her pain and back to selling books and keeping that machine going. Gross. Profit is above everything with these hucksters.