Anonymous wrote:From her chat with Oprah before the event: “How can we be free? I’ve never been free a day in my life.” She literally wrote a #*¥% booking about being free.

Boy, the balls it takes to talk about freedom to a Black woman.

Jen is still dizzy from the fumes of meeting her idol Oprah. But it’s slowly dawning on her that Oprah is very “problematic” right now and isn’t nearly the cultural powerhouse she was in the past. It’s back to desperate and constant shilling to diminishing returns.

I love that someone called her out for the constant “pimping” products and then another mentioned bleaching hair can cause hair loss, all on her Nutrafol post…..and only 9 comments.

Wasn’t she selling a different hair supplement a few months ago?

Anonymous wrote:This might be the first time I came into the Entertainment and Pop Culture forum and the Jen Hatmaker thread wasn’t on the front page! Wow.

I was just going to ask how Oprah went.

How could she believe that ppl want hair advice from her?????

This might be the first time I came into the Entertainment and Pop Culture forum and the Jen Hatmaker thread wasn’t on the front page! Wow.

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Anonymous wrote:From her chat with Oprah before the event: “How can we be free? I’ve never been free a day in my life.” She literally wrote a #*¥% booking about being free.

hahaha I heard that too, and listened to it again/watched it, and it's sad.Because she is totally saying what she thinks Oprah wants to hear, but Oprah actually disagrees! Oprah's like "um no, I am free, actually ". Jen was brown-nosing and it backfired.

I think she has since edited that last part of her conversation with Oprah out in the stories, where Oprah doesn’t bite when Jen says she’s never been free. Maybe Jen read your commentary. It was there before, as I heard it, but when I went to play it back for a friend, that part of the video cuts short now.

Anonymous wrote:From her chat with Oprah before the event: “How can we be free? I’ve never been free a day in my life.” She literally wrote a #*¥% booking about being free.

hahaha I heard that too, and listened to it again/watched it, and it's sad.Because she is totally saying what she thinks Oprah wants to hear, but Oprah actually disagrees! Oprah's like "um no, I am free, actually ". Jen was brown-nosing and it backfired.

Anonymous wrote:From her chat with Oprah before the event: “How can we be free? I’ve never been free a day in my life.” She literally wrote a #*¥% booking about being free.

You are right. She mastered total freedom when she write Fierce Free and Full of Fire. Her manifesto, she called it, the summary of a life of hard earned wisdom and triumph over all the things.

How can she not be free now? That makes no sense.

From her chat with Oprah before the event: “How can we be free? I’ve never been free a day in my life.” She literally wrote a #*¥% booking about being free.

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Anonymous wrote:Oh, helllllll nooooo. I just watched it. The entire segment was about Jen’s bikini pics from Mexico and how it didn’t make sense for “her community” to be upset about them because she and her friends went on vacation and got healthier by “walking and doing all the things”. All the things???? You got a tummy tuck and are still lying to us!
Oprah literally said, “People got mad? You just went to Mexico with your friends!”.

I cannot believe that this is what the segment was about. What a slap in the face to all of us, from both Sis and Oprah. The entire conversation was basically, “Don’t be jealous because we look good now.”

The gaslighting is real.

No one was mad about your vacay with your friends and your slimmer body.

We are absolutely calling bullshit to the lie you fed your community that you took some walks and magically lost weight… while sporting a new belly button and the tell-tale rectangle shape of a tummy tuck.

We are calling bullshit to the fact that you said you and your friends “earned” wearing a bikini because you lost weight. As if bikinis are prizes to be won.

Well, we all know this, of course. We have the receipts and remember when that photo was posted and know the lead up to all of this is and know that the very the reason she's there at all is ridiculous and nauseating and phony with a capital P., especially in light of her "human pillow" posts, but for Jen, the Weight Watchers/Oprah is a dream of a lifetime and a great new entry onto her media resume. She's very much of the older Gen X generation that stil thinks Orpah is the goddess of all things wonderful and amazing and have huge blinders when it comes to her hyocrisy and problematic behavior.

Anonymous wrote:Oh, helllllll nooooo. I just watched it. The entire segment was about Jen’s bikini pics from Mexico and how it didn’t make sense for “her community” to be upset about them because she and her friends went on vacation and got healthier by “walking and doing all the things”. All the things???? You got a tummy tuck and are still lying to us!
Oprah literally said, “People got mad? You just went to Mexico with your friends!”.

I cannot believe that this is what the segment was about. What a slap in the face to all of us, from both Sis and Oprah. The entire conversation was basically, “Don’t be jealous because we look good now.”

The gaslighting is real.

No one was mad about your vacay with your friends and your slimmer body.

We are absolutely calling bullshit to the lie you fed your community that you took some walks and magically lost weight… while sporting a new belly button and the tell-tale rectangle shape of a tummy tuck.

We are calling bullshit to the fact that you said you and your friends “earned” wearing a bikini because you lost weight. As if bikinis are prizes to be won.

If I took a shot every time she said “this conversation” ….

Oprah’s lead-in to Jen’s segment was referencing “an exact moment when we were called out by someone passing judgement on us all.” After the obligatory mention of her traumatic divorce, she says, “(my friends and I) started this health journey together. Just boring old stuff. Walking. Just all the things. And then we went to Mexico.”

She knows how Oprah has felt being body shamed for the past 25 years because she experienced it herself after she posted that photo. (I would guess that a lot of Oprah‘s body shaming came from the fact that she was what would be considered overweight, while Jen was being criticized for posting a photo where she looked good.)

She felt she had “accidentally harmed my community and that’s what I’m on this earth to do is to serve them well.”

Oh please. Her participation was an excuse to post a relatively flattering photo of herself and then create a false narrative surrounding how she got to look that way, and then make herself into a victim.

Honestly, whoever did her makeup for the show did a much better job than she did. Definitely toned down the lipstick, especially.