Anonymous wrote:Val Demings (D) leading Marco Rubio by 4 points for FL senate in this latest poll. Florida is notorious for polls that don’t match up to Election Day but it’s promising!

https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/3603940-demings-up-by-4-points-in-challenge-to-rubio-poll/amp/

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes, and also, in general, people in the US tend to use French words in when they are trying to be fancy and sophisticated. When I planned my wedding, the caterer offered "crudité" for the cocktail hour. Otherwise, it's not a word I see or hear much. Having a party at the country club, inviting the CEOs and their spouses over for dinner, or going out to someone's house in the Hamptons? Then, sure, use the word crudité. Otherwise, if you're eating at home, having your friends over for dinner, or going to the neighborhood block party, it's a vegetable tray. And as a native Pennsylvanian, I think I can say, frankly, that unless you're from the Main Line or Society Hill or the Pittsburgh equivalent, most Pennsylvanians would say, "WTF is he talking about?" even if they know what the word means. Because no one talks like that.

There was more important stupidity than using that word:

He misstated the store's name - so he probably knows Wegmans and mixed up!
He bought some weird combinations of vegetables, quantities, and condiments for the vegetable tray - probably has clue.
Who drinks toquilla with vegetables?
He did not have a cart or basket - so this was a stunt.

Stupid ad stunt by an out-of-touch millionaire!

Yeah, so many questions! Why did his staff not correct his incorrect name of the store? Was he drinking toquilla because he was having salsa and guacamole, and he thought he'd go with a Mexican theme? Why such a huge bag of carrots? Why didn't he have one of those little red hand baskets? Did he really buy those items or did he put them back after he made the video?

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just insert here, that as a French person, I'm a little uncomfortable at the idea that a very banal French word is being ridiculed because it's perceived to be elitist? That's what we say when we mean raw vegetables eaten as is. There's no other word.

Let's not even mention the Marie-Antoinette fake reference (because historically she did not say "let them eat cake").

Sigh.

It's the tone deafness of it all. Half the people probably don't know what the heck a crudite is. Of the other half, there are probably a significant number that don't know that's how it's pronounced. Never mind that it's just a veggie tray, and what he bought makes absolutely no sense in the context of someone putting together a veggie tray.

I grew up in midwest rust belt just barely above the poverty line. I knew what it was.

You're awesome! I grew up UMC on the liberal west coast, and I didn't know what it was.

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes. And, IMO, Fetterman’s talk about “New Jersey” is a dog whistle...sure, Oz has the NJ connection, but by “New Jersey” he really means “Turkey” and is leaving unsaid what a lot of Pennsylvanians will pick up on regarding ol’ Mehmet.

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes. And, IMO, Fetterman’s talk about “New Jersey” is a dog whistle...sure, Oz has the NJ connection, but by “New Jersey” he really means “Turkey” and is leaving unsaid what a lot of Pennsylvanians will pick up on regarding ol’ Mehmet.

Ummm he has mostly lived in NJ and Fetterman is using tons of FAMOUS NJ (not Turkish) people to point that out so you’re seeing what you want

I’m mostly seeing another privileged, under-achieving white male taking a position of power in a state that is diverse enough to have plenty of other options. Obviously, TV personalities don’t need to be in the Senate. It’s incredible, though, that the Democratic base is about 25% white male, but white male candidates are still 2/3rds to 3/4ths of the candidates.

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes, and also, in general, people in the US tend to use French words in when they are trying to be fancy and sophisticated. When I planned my wedding, the caterer offered "crudité" for the cocktail hour. Otherwise, it's not a word I see or hear much. Having a party at the country club, inviting the CEOs and their spouses over for dinner, or going out to someone's house in the Hamptons? Then, sure, use the word crudité. Otherwise, if you're eating at home, having your friends over for dinner, or going to the neighborhood block party, it's a vegetable tray. And as a native Pennsylvanian, I think I can say, frankly, that unless you're from the Main Line or Society Hill or the Pittsburgh equivalent, most Pennsylvanians would say, "WTF is he talking about?" even if they know what the word means. Because no one talks like that.

There was more important stupidity than using that word:

He misstated the store's name - so he probably knows Wegmans and mixed up!
He bought some weird combinations of vegetables, quantities, and condiments for the vegetable tray - probably has clue.
Who drinks toquilla with vegetables?
He did not have a cart or basket - so this was a stunt.

Stupid ad stunt by an out-of-touch millionaire!

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes. And, IMO, Fetterman’s talk about “New Jersey” is a dog whistle...sure, Oz has the NJ connection, but by “New Jersey” he really means “Turkey” and is leaving unsaid what a lot of Pennsylvanians will pick up on regarding ol’ Mehmet.

Ummm he has mostly lived in NJ and Fetterman is using tons of FAMOUS NJ (not Turkish) people to point that out so you’re seeing what you want

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Anonymous wrote:Can I just insert here, that as a French person, I'm a little uncomfortable at the idea that a very banal French word is being ridiculed because it's perceived to be elitist? That's what we say when we mean raw vegetables eaten as is. There's no other word.

Let's not even mention the Marie-Antoinette fake reference (because historically she did not say "let them eat cake").

Sigh.

It's the tone deafness of it all. Half the people probably don't know what the heck a crudite is. Of the other half, there are probably a significant number that don't know that's how it's pronounced. Never mind that it's just a veggie tray, and what he bought makes absolutely no sense in the context of someone putting together a veggie tray.

Isn't a crudite a kind of horse devorse?

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes. And, IMO, Fetterman’s talk about “New Jersey” is a dog whistle...sure, Oz has the NJ connection, but by “New Jersey” he really means “Turkey” and is leaving unsaid what a lot of Pennsylvanians will pick up on regarding ol’ Mehmet.

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Anonymous wrote:French PP here. I just remembered he's originally from Turkey, right? Turks do say crudites, because they've borrowed a lot of words from French.

So maybe he thought it was a normal word to use?

But I got everyone's point that if he's seeking to represent the people of PA, then he should know them a little better.

Yes. And, IMO, Fetterman’s talk about “New Jersey” is a dog whistle...sure, Oz has the NJ connection, but by “New Jersey” he really means “Turkey” and is leaving unsaid what a lot of Pennsylvanians will pick up on regarding ol’ Mehmet.