Anonymous wrote:I read a theory that Kate dies, Toby dink’s into depression, and Kevon ends up adopting Jack. And so when Toby says he talked to a jack and they’re on their way, he means Jack and Kevin. Makes some sense.

However, I do wonder if that kid is too young. He could be 19 and this could be 10 years in the future right?

But Kevin’s son is already in the house at that point.

I read a theory that Kate dies, Toby dink’s into depression, and Kevon ends up adopting Jack. And so when Toby says he talked to a jack and they’re on their way, he means Jack and Kevin. Makes some sense.

However, I do wonder if that kid is too young. He could be 19 and this could be 10 years in the future right?

I am actually relieved that Kate and Toby don't make it. I am definitely a Toby type personality and as I watch this show I feel like someone like Kate would consume me and probably be a trigger for my depression. Kate being Jack's child, it would be likely she too would be kind of domineering.

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Anonymous wrote:Toby said he talked to Jack and they are on their way, so I think maybe Kate and Jack are who they are now.

The kid refered to as Kevin’s is not named.

Have R&B always lived in Jersey? Completely missed that all along. Thought they were also in PA.

Will we ever find out what happened to Randall’s birthmom?

"I just talked to Jack - they're on their way" from Toby - to me pretty clearly meant Kate and Toby are divorced.
Also people were thanking Toby for coming which to me indicated he was no longer directly attached to the family but came to support them anyhow.

I do wonder who Kevin ended up having the kid with.

I think Kate died and “they” are Jack and someone else. His spouse or sibling, maybe.

I think Rebecca went into catatonic state when Kate died. It has been clarified that she does not have dementia or alzheimers.

This is what the actor who plays Toby said:
“At that point Kate and Toby are no longer married,” Sullivan tells The Post. “Who knows why that could be? Clearly [Toby] is still in communication with Kate and Jack. There are a lot of reasons why marriages don’t continue. The [show’s] writing staff hasn’t told us exactly what that situation will be but I think, either way, there are a lot of lessons to be learned.”

https://nypost.com/2019/04/02/this-is-us-finale-ends-season-with-a-slew-of-new-questions/

I assume Rebecca is just old. I think Rebecca was 30 when the triplets were born in 1980, so she was born in 1950 and is 68 in the current day scenes. The flash forwards must be at least... ?15? years in the future? (Tess grown up, through some grad school and working; Kevin has a 10-12 year old kid and isn't even in a relationship now; Toby and Kate's Jack old enough to have a cell phone). Totally reasonable that she could be on her deathbed at 83 without having been triggered into a "catatonic state." Maybe cancer...

Jack was 6 years older so assuming Miguel was the same age, he probably passed away by that point. Nicky looks pretty good though.

Anonymous wrote:NP in the discussion above. How some chooses to make a family shouldn’t be judged or face scrutiny because “there were other options.” It’s their life, and they should make their decisions without a false-standard in society about when it’s acceptable to have a child.

Exactly.

I have to admit, I laughed out loud and little Kevin flirting with the nurse in the hospital.

I loved the episode but mostly because it didn't leave us hanging about Beth and Randall. The tension between them this season was a real downer, even more so than Rebecca and Jack's in Season 2.

My theory about Toby - his anxiety over Jack's (perceived) fragility will pull him into another vortex of depression.

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Anonymous wrote:Toby said he talked to Jack and they are on their way, so I think maybe Kate and Jack are who they are now.

The kid refered to as Kevin’s is not named.

Have R&B always lived in Jersey? Completely missed that all along. Thought they were also in PA.

Will we ever find out what happened to Randall’s birthmom?

"I just talked to Jack - they're on their way" from Toby - to me pretty clearly meant Kate and Toby are divorced.
Also people were thanking Toby for coming which to me indicated he was no longer directly attached to the family but came to support them anyhow.

I do wonder who Kevin ended up having the kid with.

I think Kate died and “they” are Jack and someone else. His spouse or sibling, maybe.

I think Rebecca went into catatonic state when Kate died. It has been clarified that she does not have dementia or alzheimers.

Finally, a good episode!

Anonymous wrote:Toby said he talked to Jack and they are on their way, so I think maybe Kate and Jack are who they are now.

The kid refered to as Kevin’s is not named.

Have R&B always lived in Jersey? Completely missed that all along. Thought they were also in PA.

Will we ever find out what happened to Randall’s birthmom?

"I just talked to Jack - they're on their way" from Toby - to me pretty clearly meant Kate and Toby are divorced.
Also people were thanking Toby for coming which to me indicated he was no longer directly attached to the family but came to support them anyhow.

I do wonder who Kevin ended up having the kid with.

Anonymous wrote:Did anyone think they intentionally hid Kevin’s kid’s face and kind of blurred him out? His head was down looking at a phone or something as he walked by, and then they kind of blurred him out.

If that’s the case, I can think of 2 reasons why. 1) they haven’t cast the permanent kid yet; or 2) they are being intentionally mysterious about the kid’s race. Is it possible Kevin and Zoe end up together and that was their kid?

I think it's possible they used the same kid that plays Kevin as a kid. I thought he was white and looked a lot like that kid. Maybe they made it quick/blurry so people would think the kid looks just like young Kevin but wouldn't realize it was the exact same kid.

Anonymous wrote:Toby said he talked to Jack and they are on their way, so I think maybe Kate and Jack are who they are now.

The kid refered to as Kevin’s is not named.

Have R&B always lived in Jersey? Completely missed that all along. Thought they were also in PA.

Will we ever find out what happened to Randall’s birthmom?

Didn’t Randall’s birthmom OD? Maybe I’m misremembering.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so distracted trying to figure out how Randall & Beth are suddenly having so many issues, that I can't concentrate on the other story lines!! Now it's an issue of not having money & the girls needing Beth. Say what?? They spend money on the most frivolous things. They fly out to see Kate & stay for four days with I'm sure last minute tickets. That can't be cheap. Who's watching the girls while they are gone? All of this drama about the girls being left alone, yet they don't explain who has them while they up and take off to see Kate. Why are they cleaning up after these teenage girls? Are they not old enough at this point to wash dishes and do some laundry?

I don't think Randall and Beth's issues are sudden as much as they haven't been resolved properly. Frankly I'm surprised they've made it this long with what he has done lately. It's like the couple who breaks up over a dirty glass on the counter. It's not really the glass. It's everything that lead up to that. The money they are spending to see Kate is ridiculous. Randall has gone 2x. Beth once, all last minute trips across country. IRL I'd tell DH no way should we be spending money to go see her. His first responsibility is to the family under his roof not a sister whose pregnancy is risky because she gave up on any and all methods to make it less risky by taking better care of herself and now everyone is supposed to fall in line and not state the obvious.

Agree. And they could have simply adopted a child to begin with.

“Simply adopted.”

Huh.

You’re not an adoptive parent, are you, PP?

Do you find adopting a child to be more complicated and expensive than undergoing a risky IVF procedure?

Yes. Adoption for us would have been more expensive, more emotional risk. We were told to get a healthy infant could take 3-5 years, we need to do a nationwide search, and pay up to 75k in costs.

Um, my IVFs cost me 75k and took three years before I was successful.

“Ummmmm.” Dial it back, little valley girl. This isn’t a contest.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so distracted trying to figure out how Randall & Beth are suddenly having so many issues, that I can't concentrate on the other story lines!! Now it's an issue of not having money & the girls needing Beth. Say what?? They spend money on the most frivolous things. They fly out to see Kate & stay for four days with I'm sure last minute tickets. That can't be cheap. Who's watching the girls while they are gone? All of this drama about the girls being left alone, yet they don't explain who has them while they up and take off to see Kate. Why are they cleaning up after these teenage girls? Are they not old enough at this point to wash dishes and do some laundry?

I don't think Randall and Beth's issues are sudden as much as they haven't been resolved properly. Frankly I'm surprised they've made it this long with what he has done lately. It's like the couple who breaks up over a dirty glass on the counter. It's not really the glass. It's everything that lead up to that. The money they are spending to see Kate is ridiculous. Randall has gone 2x. Beth once, all last minute trips across country. IRL I'd tell DH no way should we be spending money to go see her. His first responsibility is to the family under his roof not a sister whose pregnancy is risky because she gave up on any and all methods to make it less risky by taking better care of herself and now everyone is supposed to fall in line and not state the obvious.

Agree. And they could have simply adopted a child to begin with.

“Simply adopted.”

Huh.

You’re not an adoptive parent, are you, PP?

Do you find adopting a child to be more complicated and expensive than undergoing a risky IVF procedure?

Yes. Adoption for us would have been more expensive, more emotional risk. We were told to get a healthy infant could take 3-5 years, we need to do a nationwide search, and pay up to 75k in costs.

Um, my IVFs cost me 75k and took three years before I was successful.

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Anonymous wrote:I'm so distracted trying to figure out how Randall & Beth are suddenly having so many issues, that I can't concentrate on the other story lines!! Now it's an issue of not having money & the girls needing Beth. Say what?? They spend money on the most frivolous things. They fly out to see Kate & stay for four days with I'm sure last minute tickets. That can't be cheap. Who's watching the girls while they are gone? All of this drama about the girls being left alone, yet they don't explain who has them while they up and take off to see Kate. Why are they cleaning up after these teenage girls? Are they not old enough at this point to wash dishes and do some laundry?

I don't think Randall and Beth's issues are sudden as much as they haven't been resolved properly. Frankly I'm surprised they've made it this long with what he has done lately. It's like the couple who breaks up over a dirty glass on the counter. It's not really the glass. It's everything that lead up to that. The money they are spending to see Kate is ridiculous. Randall has gone 2x. Beth once, all last minute trips across country. IRL I'd tell DH no way should we be spending money to go see her. His first responsibility is to the family under his roof not a sister whose pregnancy is risky because she gave up on any and all methods to make it less risky by taking better care of herself and now everyone is supposed to fall in line and not state the obvious.

Agree. And they could have simply adopted a child to begin with.

“Simply adopted.”

Huh.

You’re not an adoptive parent, are you, PP?

Plus 1 from a new PP (adoptive parent)