Anonymous
Post 06/22/2017 09:45     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:I still can't believe that some posters believe that he stole the poster.

This is what we know that Otto did:

He went to a foreign country with a tour group that said it was safe. That's it. I think he was framed. If you read the article about his Pyongyang roommate, Otto wasn't scared and he didn't act guilty when the n Koreans led him away in the airport.

I suspect Congress knows n Korea frames innovative Americans, and that's why two congressmen are trying to create a ban on tourist travel to n Korea.

I feel so sorry for his parents. I just can't imagine.


Is it possible that he didn't realize that messing with the poster was such a crime in NK and therefore did not realize what was happening? If you are unaware you've broken a law why would you show fear or guilt.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2017 09:43     Subject: Re:UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)


White tears


Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.


Because in liberal PC America it is only acceptable to feel sorry for/sympathize with people who have been oppressed in history including people of color, homosexuals, women, Jews, Muslims, etc. If you are a straight white Christian male, you will never be worthy of sympathy, no matter the situation. You are a representation of the oppressor from years past and you also get to enjoy white privilege which makes you automatically unworthy of sympathy.

Well said.


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Oh no. Poor white guys. You're so oppressed.

Whatever you paranoid nut jobs. Go start a new hobby. Playing the victim isn't working out for you.


Playing the victim isn't working out for anybody - black and white. Everyone is responsible for his and her own actions.


Does this include police who are trigger happy and shoot people?
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2017 09:39     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

That was suppose to say innocent Americans, not innovative.
Anonymous
Post 06/22/2017 09:38     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

I still can't believe that some posters believe that he stole the poster.

This is what we know that Otto did:

He went to a foreign country with a tour group that said it was safe. That's it. I think he was framed. If you read the article about his Pyongyang roommate, Otto wasn't scared and he didn't act guilty when the n Koreans led him away in the airport.

I suspect Congress knows n Korea frames innovative Americans, and that's why two congressmen are trying to create a ban on tourist travel to n Korea.

I feel so sorry for his parents. I just can't imagine.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 12:17     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

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Anonymous wrote:Why did his parents refuse to do an autopsy? It seems like that decision should be overruled to investigate the exact cause of death. It may still be inconclusive but there is a small chance something could be learned.


Also, he had pretty thorough testing when he arrived home. I can’t imagine anything else would be discovered.


Exactly. He's already had his whole body scanned and tested. Time to let him rest. RIP Otto.

This whole story is tragic beyond words. All that potential wiped out for one small error. (I read his was 2nd in his graduating class in high school and completed a semester at the London School of Economics.) RIP.



I'm sorry, "one small error"? WTF are you smoking?

OK....a big error. Feel better now?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 12:14     Subject: Re:UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
Because in liberal PC America it is only acceptable to feel sorry for/sympathize with people who have been oppressed in history including people of color, homosexuals, women, Jews, Muslims, etc. If you are a straight white Christian male, you will never be worthy of sympathy, no matter the situation. You are a representation of the oppressor from years past and you also get to enjoy white privilege which makes you automatically unworthy of sympathy.


This is not exactly true. PC liberals don't feel sorry for people who have been oppressed in History, if these people are of similar SEC as they do today. Liberals only sympathize people of lower SEC regardless they belong to the historical oppressed groups or not. It's like charity. They will be lost if there is no group to make them feel morally superior.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:45     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why did his parents refuse to do an autopsy? It seems like that decision should be overruled to investigate the exact cause of death. It may still be inconclusive but there is a small chance something could be learned.


Also, he had pretty thorough testing when he arrived home. I can’t imagine anything else would be discovered.


Exactly. He's already had his whole body scanned and tested. Time to let him rest. RIP Otto.

This whole story is tragic beyond words. All that potential wiped out for one small error. (I read his was 2nd in his graduating class in high school and completed a semester at the London School of Economics.) RIP.



I'm sorry, "one small error"? WTF are you smoking?
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:35     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did his parents refuse to do an autopsy? It seems like that decision should be overruled to investigate the exact cause of death. It may still be inconclusive but there is a small chance something could be learned.


Also, he had pretty thorough testing when he arrived home. I can’t imagine anything else would be discovered.


Exactly. He's already had his whole body scanned and tested. Time to let him rest. RIP Otto.

This whole story is tragic beyond words. All that potential wiped out for one small error. (I read his was 2nd in his graduating class in high school and completed a semester at the London School of Economics.) RIP.

Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:18     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did his parents refuse to do an autopsy? It seems like that decision should be overruled to investigate the exact cause of death. It may still be inconclusive but there is a small chance something could be learned.


Also, he had pretty thorough testing when he arrived home. I can’t imagine anything else would be discovered.


Exactly. He's already had his whole body scanned and tested. Time to let him rest. RIP Otto.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:18     Subject: Re:UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)


White tears


Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.


Because in liberal PC America it is only acceptable to feel sorry for/sympathize with people who have been oppressed in history including people of color, homosexuals, women, Jews, Muslims, etc. If you are a straight white Christian male, you will never be worthy of sympathy, no matter the situation. You are a representation of the oppressor from years past and you also get to enjoy white privilege which makes you automatically unworthy of sympathy.

Well said.


+2



Oh no. Poor white guys. You're so oppressed.

Whatever you paranoid nut jobs. Go start a new hobby. Playing the victim isn't working out for you.


Playing the victim isn't working out for anybody - black and white. Everyone is responsible for his and her own actions.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:17     Subject: Re:UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)


White tears


Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.


Because in liberal PC America it is only acceptable to feel sorry for/sympathize with people who have been oppressed in history including people of color, homosexuals, women, Jews, Muslims, etc. If you are a straight white Christian male, you will never be worthy of sympathy, no matter the situation. You are a representation of the oppressor from years past and you also get to enjoy white privilege which makes you automatically unworthy of sympathy.

Well said.


+2



Oh no. Poor white guys. You're so oppressed.

Whatever you paranoid nut jobs. Go start a new hobby. Playing the victim isn't working out for you.



No thanks, think I'll stay right here since it annoys you so much. (And I'm not a white guy, but whatever)
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:17     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why did his parents refuse to do an autopsy? It seems like that decision should be overruled to investigate the exact cause of death. It may still be inconclusive but there is a small chance something could be learned.


Also, he had pretty thorough testing when he arrived home. I can’t imagine anything else would be discovered.

Someone said he was Jewish. Jews are opposed to autopsies, unless required by the law.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 11:10     Subject: Re:UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agree, it sounds like "La Sha" was raised in a hate filled home, so I am not at all surprised by her response to this tragedy.

I just don't get the double standard.

On one hand, we have an ex-con with prison time for assault, banishing a stolen gun near a schoolyard, and defying police who ordered him 11 times to drop his gun - and the encounter ends in his swift death. Liberals are bemoaning the fate of the man, whom they refuse to admit had any role in his demise. He was black.

On the other hand, we have a 21-year-old student at UVA, who had completed a semester at the London School of Economics and was studying abroad. He makes a stupid mistake in taking a poster (if he even did), never threatened anyone, never imprisoned for assault. But he is not only killed, he endures a horrific experience and Lord-knows-what before it all ends. Yet, we have people saying he's an idiot who deserved it, and is responsible for his own actions. He was white.

Why all the sympathy and excuses for a violent ex-con and the disgusting lack of compassion for a college kid who never hurt anyone? The difference is black and white. (Double meaning intended.)


White tears


Not true at all. Many people would agree with PP.

I'm the PP (who outlined the difference between the two deaths), and I had to look up the term "white tears." Now that I know its meaning, I would say that the responder who used it proves my point even further. Why is the violent ex-con who has assault on his record a more sympathetic figure than a college kid who never hurt anyone? I feel much worse for this kid and what he went through than I do for the ex-con. The college kid suffered much worse.


Because in liberal PC America it is only acceptable to feel sorry for/sympathize with people who have been oppressed in history including people of color, homosexuals, women, Jews, Muslims, etc. If you are a straight white Christian male, you will never be worthy of sympathy, no matter the situation. You are a representation of the oppressor from years past and you also get to enjoy white privilege which makes you automatically unworthy of sympathy.

Well said.


+2



Oh no. Poor white guys. You're so oppressed.

Whatever you paranoid nut jobs. Go start a new hobby. Playing the victim isn't working out for you.

Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 10:52     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

Anonymous wrote:Why did his parents refuse to do an autopsy? It seems like that decision should be overruled to investigate the exact cause of death. It may still be inconclusive but there is a small chance something could be learned.


Also, he had pretty thorough testing when he arrived home. I can’t imagine anything else would be discovered.
Anonymous
Post 06/21/2017 10:51     Subject: UVA Student Released from North Korea; Has Been in a Coma for a Year?

he did this to himself

he stole a flag and paid the price.