Anonymous wrote:Why are so many idiots posting. It was 1 foot! Not 10 feet!

The family says 1 foot, the lifeguard said 10. Authorities are looking owing for more witnesses.

You have got to be complete IDIOTS to have your child in water, in Florida, at night.

I DON'T GIVE A S**T ABOUT SIGNAGE.

There should be a sign for ignorant parents - hanging around their necks.

Humans are not in charge here...welcome to our jungle.

It's tragic, but I don't see how it justifies hunting and killing all the gators in the lake.

Shit happens. You can't be 100% safe and no one, even Disney, can't guarantee your safety.

I disagree with the notion that if something bad happens to you start looking for someone to blame and sue. It's bad morals.

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Anonymous wrote:Waiting for any witnesses beyond the parents to come forward. Smells like a panicked attempt to deny their own negligence.

Confirmed by a lifeguard. Boy was ten feet out; no swimming signs posted.

Link to a source that's not Daily Mail?

Fox news. Now says boy was playing one to two feet out but "no swimming signs" were posted. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/15/body-2-year-old-boy-snatched-by-alligator-recovered-sheriff-confirms.html?intcmp=hpbt1. So sad.

Thank you - I figured the "10 feet" thing was incorrect.

I can not read 60 pages of this, so forgive me if what I contribute has already been said...

I am not surprised to learn that there are aligators at Disney, as it is in Florida and my understanding is they can turn up just about anywhere- however, I was not aware specifically that they are indeed at the resort.

What troubles me is that they would plan events like the movie and the water parade on the beach at night, when they know for sure they have gators and that they feed at night. I also think it is reprehensible that they would not have signs posted indicating this danger.

I have seen wildlife programs where they show aligators jumping and lunging several feet onto the shore to grab large prey, and episodes of rescue 911 type shows where people who were not in the water but only walking near the shores of canals/lagoons have been pulled in. So, in in my opinion, no one should be within 5 feet of the water, and Disney should not be setting up beach chairs and making the illusion of a beach where one would swim.

The family showed poor judgement in disregarding the no swimming signs, and poor water safety by letting the 2 yo be so far away. However, I think Disney is negligent for encouraging people to spend time in proximity to the water where and for not posting about the alligators. As we have learned here in this thread MANY people believed that aligators in the water of a Disney resort were impossible, so onus on Disney to educate their ignorant non Florida resident guests.

And the lady who keeps going on about how all the witnesses will sue, litigious much? That's crazy and greedy to try and exploit someone else's loss for personal gain... Who does that?

Disney is incredibly negligent in not having an alligator sign. Their sign "no swimming" would be more appropriate for a fountain...my heart goes out to the family. Hurting this week thinking about the fragility of life.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop blaming that family. Have you no shame. I am disgusted by the posters blaming the family. Have you never been to Disney? The beaches are filled with families and kids wading in the water. Please, just stop being so stupid. The parents are not to blame.

THERE WAS A NO SWIMMING SIGN!

And for those of you who continue to act ignorant, allow me to define swimming and wading.

WADING: to walk through water

SWIMMING: to move through water by moving your arms and legs

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE???

Why the heck weren't the hick parents keeping a close eye on the 2 year old? 2 year old! he was wading 10 feet from shore before the gator pulled him under.

I am more concerned that 5 GATORS were killed because of these parents irresponsibility. The nerve!

He identified the boy as two-year-old Lane Graves, son of Matt and Melissa Graves of Elk Horn, Nebraska. The Graves family were on the third day of their Orlando vacation when tragedy struck Tuesday night.
Lane had been wading in a 'no swimming' area at the upscale Grand Floridian Resort & Spa around 9:20pm when he was attacked by the gator, and his father tried and failed to wrestle him from the reptile's clenches.
During the search, wildlife officials caught and killed five alligators in the man-made lake and they say they will now use forensics to determine if they have already euthanized the alligator responsible for the attack. If not, officials promised to continue searching the lake for the creature.
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You and your elitist attitude are deplorable.
These poor parents are grieving the loss of their child.
Hick parents? I shutter to think what names your friends call you behind your back.

Call them hicks if you want, but this isn't a 22 yr old couple on a vacation of a lifetime with their honeymoon baby. Not that that would make the loss any less significant, but I know in DCUM land, the value of a family depends on their financial standing. This is a 42 yr old dad with a 38 yr old mom with dad working at Chief Data Officer at a company in Omaha, and they live in a well to do suburb of Omaha and send their 4 yr old to Catholic school. This is the life that so many on DCUM regularly covet -- a quarter million+ dollar job in flyover country that'll afford you a huge house in a low COL city and give you ample money to travel -- which this family was doing to the order of a hotel room that cost no less than $600/night. Don't act like this same thing couldn't have happened to a DC couple -- it was a freak accident.

There are gators in Florida. It is a known risk to those who live there and visit often. They are nocturnal and it is well known that going in water is unsafe at night. If you rent a house with a pool, ypu are warned to check the pool for gators before ypu get in. The lagoon that this kid is in had clear no swimming signs. They meant nit go into the water, clearly the parents did not understand what the sign really meant.

I do not blame the parents, I only know about the risks because my inlaws go to Florida a lot. But suggesting that Disney should kill all the gators is ridiculous. They should however make the risks more clear.

When I went to Disney, I remember asking about alligators. I can't remember if I saw one or the friend I traveled with who is paranoid about all wildlife asked.

We were told that there are many young gators, and when they reach 4 feet they are relocated. We were also told that gators are very shy and won't approach group of people. Clearly this is true most of the time, given that people wade on the beaches all the time, and this was the first incident in 40 years, and that so many people report not seeing them at all.

Knowing what the beaches at Disney are like around fireworks time, especially at a crowded time, it wouldn't have occurred to me to worry about this. I'd worry that my kid would put his hands in the nasty water and then in his mouth, or that he'd dart away and get in over his head in murky water, but not about an alligator. It sounds like Dad was quite close, if he got to the animal before it dragged the child to the deep water.

Here's CNN. Says parents were attending an outdoor movie night. Doesn't say how far boy was wading from the shore but that the signs "no swimming" were posted and CNN shows the signs. http://www.cnn.com/2016/06/15/us/alligator-attacks-child-disney-florida/

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Anonymous wrote:Or for anyone! Believe me, my familys been 7+ times in 12 years and never thought of gators! No signage anywhere! Assumed there weren't any! As did everyone else! Most resorts post beware of gators, don't feed the gators warnings. Not Disney!

+1. Been to Disney many, many times and several different resorts and golf courses in Florida. This is all true.

No families should be going to disney anymore

http://www.boycottdisneynow.com/

“The program has created a highly lucrative business model of bringing in cheaper H-1B workers to substitute for Americans,” said Ronil Hira, a professor of public policy at Howard University who studies visa programs and has testified before Congress about H-1B visas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/last-task-after-layoff-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html?_r=0

What on earth does this have to do with the story at hand?

Why would you think Disney is any different than the rest of the entire state of Florida? Do you think Disney has some special force to keep them away?

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Anonymous wrote:Or for anyone! Believe me, my familys been 7+ times in 12 years and never thought of gators! No signage anywhere! Assumed there weren't any! As did everyone else! Most resorts post beware of gators, don't feed the gators warnings. Not Disney!

+1. Been to Disney many, many times and several different resorts and golf courses in Florida. This is all true.

No families should be going to disney anymore

http://www.boycottdisneynow.com/

“The program has created a highly lucrative business model of bringing in cheaper H-1B workers to substitute for Americans,” said Ronil Hira, a professor of public policy at Howard University who studies visa programs and has testified before Congress about H-1B visas.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/last-task-after-layoff-at-disney-train-foreign-replacements.html?_r=0

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Waiting for any witnesses beyond the parents to come forward. Smells like a panicked attempt to deny their own negligence.

Confirmed by a lifeguard. Boy was ten feet out; no swimming signs posted.

Link to a source that's not Daily Mail?

Fox news. Now says boy was playing one to two feet out but "no swimming signs" were posted. http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/06/15/body-2-year-old-boy-snatched-by-alligator-recovered-sheriff-confirms.html?intcmp=hpbt1. So sad.

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Anonymous wrote:Please stop blaming that family. Have you no shame. I am disgusted by the posters blaming the family. Have you never been to Disney? The beaches are filled with families and kids wading in the water. Please, just stop being so stupid. The parents are not to blame.

THERE WAS A NO SWIMMING SIGN!

And for those of you who continue to act ignorant, allow me to define swimming and wading.

WADING: to walk through water

SWIMMING: to move through water by moving your arms and legs

DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE???

Why the heck weren't the hick parents keeping a close eye on the 2 year old? 2 year old! he was wading 10 feet from shore before the gator pulled him under.

I am more concerned that 5 GATORS were killed because of these parents irresponsibility. The nerve!

He identified the boy as two-year-old Lane Graves, son of Matt and Melissa Graves of Elk Horn, Nebraska. The Graves family were on the third day of their Orlando vacation when tragedy struck Tuesday night.
Lane had been wading in a 'no swimming' area at the upscale Grand Floridian Resort & Spa around 9:20pm when he was attacked by the gator, and his father tried and failed to wrestle him from the reptile's clenches.
During the search, wildlife officials caught and killed five alligators in the man-made lake and they say they will now use forensics to determine if they have already euthanized the alligator responsible for the attack. If not, officials promised to continue searching the lake for the creature.
Scroll down for video


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3643538/Two-year-old-boy-snatched-alligator-Disney-TEN-FEET-shore-reptile-struck-lifeguard-reveals.html#ixzz4BgRZUy6a
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You and your elitist attitude are deplorable.
These poor parents are grieving the loss of their child.
Hick parents? I shutter to think what names your friends call you behind your back.

It's shudder. That is why people make fun of you guys. Not PP, BTW.

Forgive my spelling error. What do you mean by “you guys?"

ignore the PP. making a notation of a grammatical error doesn't make up for the fact that people like to say shitty things.

hick parents? what an asshole.

former floridian here. 5 dead gators, boo fucking hoo. you realize that gator is on the menu at many restaurants in central and south florida?