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FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

He's already bankrupting, starving, and killing his supporters. Why would protecting rapists be their red line?

That’s what everyone is wondering. I think it is because they don’t draw a direct line from Trump to any of the things you mentioned, which leaves room to blame Biden, Hunter’s laptop, Hillary’s emails, Kamala’s laugh, etc. but this - they were counting on these files to take down the dems. He ran on that. For whatever reason, this has enraged them more than anything else. Ever. And now he is lashing out at them. His supporters are seeing, for the first time, footage of all the pedo things he has said. Which means RW media isn’t sheltering him like they always have. I am seeing plenty of people who just saw the montage of all his pedo comments, and they are genuinely shook and had no idea he said those things. This isn’t making excuses for them. But it should point out the f that media controls what we believe to be the truth

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Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

My view is that this is being pushed by the Big Tech and aligned interest groups. They can juke the algorithm to get Epstein to the top of everyone's social media feed. This story will not go away until Trump is out of office.

They are done with Trump once the BBB was passed. Why do you think Trump and Musk had such a nasty breakup?

JD Vance is their guy and they are clearing the runway for Vance to land AF1. Trump is no longer of any use to them.

The Big Tech guys think they know everything and are in charge.

Tell me, where is Elon Musk now?

No, this Epstein stuff is all MAGA. Dems are just along for the ride.

Typical of Elon, who always insults his enemies with his worse insult, "pedo", hinted that Trump was in the Epstein Files, and now is not lifting a finger in this whole affair.

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Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

Not at all. The immense majority of Trump voters are busy people who aren't terminally online. Fox has always been the channel that's perpetually on in all restaurants, bars, medical offices, and nursing homes all around MAGA country, and in a lot of individual homes. Comparatively few consult Truth Social directly or watch other right wing channels or bro podcasts.

This a very intense tempest, but in a very small teapot. The rest of the china cabinet is not involved and will blindly follow Trump wherever he goes.

In the not too distant past, that was CNN, the news channel covering plane crashes and earthquakes. Fox has not "always" been the channel playing everywhere. And it isn't anymore, either.

yeah they all listen to Tucker and Rogan and both of them are throwing Trump under the bus. It's surreal.

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Anonymous wrote:So if he is now turning on MAGA, will MAGA turn on him and anoint a new leader? Because you know Bannon and the others have that list or could pay someone to release it and by golly I want to see it happen. Sure Clinton is on there-I don’t care. I want Trump exposed for all his lies. I don’t just want the list-I want them to release whatever other dirt they have on him and his use of Epstein’s “services” because you know someone out there has the dirt. Where are the Deepthroats of the world? Where’s the gumshoe reporters? All you need is a credible tip to get the smoking gun.

MAGA is a cult led by Trump. Trump can say whatever he wants and the idiots will fall in line and create their own justification. Maybe some grumbling but in the end they'll corral in daddy's waiting arms.

I am not so sure this time. They have never reacted to him in this way. And now he is lashing out at them on social media, which also hasn’t happened before. I think they have hit the point of no return. Trump can bribe and blackmail politicians and some of the celebrities who don’t fall in line. But a pissed off maga is kinda out of his control at this point.

I doubt it. It's a lot of (perfectly understandable) wishful thinking.

Epstein is a core issue for MAGA. And it’s not even really a conspiracy. We all know it happened, and that high profile people were involved. And really, we all know he was involved as well (particularly as he protests far too much for his own good this time). At the very least, this takes a lot of wind out of the MAGA movement.

Issues like Epstein/Israel (which are likely one and the same) are splitting MAGA into two camps in a similar way that has been happening with progressives - hence the so called "Progressives except Palestine"

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

My view is that this is being pushed by the Big Tech and aligned interest groups. They can juke the algorithm to get Epstein to the top of everyone's social media feed. This story will not go away until Trump is out of office.

They are done with Trump once the BBB was passed. Why do you think Trump and Musk had such a nasty breakup?

JD Vance is their guy and they are clearing the runway for Vance to land AF1. Trump is no longer of any use to them.

+1 Elon is certainly not going to let the Epstein stuff get buried, even though Fox hasn’t mentioned his name in days.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

Not at all. The immense majority of Trump voters are busy people who aren't terminally online. Fox has always been the channel that's perpetually on in all restaurants, bars, medical offices, and nursing homes all around MAGA country, and in a lot of individual homes. Comparatively few consult Truth Social directly or watch other right wing channels or bro podcasts.

This a very intense tempest, but in a very small teapot. The rest of the china cabinet is not involved and will blindly follow Trump wherever he goes.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Trump will just say being on the list doesn’t mean he had sex with anyone. We know he was at parties with Epstein and other places. He will get away with it.

Question is how long Maxwell stays quiet or they don’t pardon here.

But he has already said there is no list. Well, first he said the list is full of democrats. Then he said there is no list. Then he said the democrats created the list and that it’s fake. Now he is saying just forget about the list. If he starts saying, “Yes I am on the list but that doesn’t mean anything.” Well, I don’t think his followers are gonna go for that. They were counting on this list to take down the democrats. If he says being on the list doesn’t prove wrongdoing, that would have to apply to democrats too.

I’m gonna call it, guys. This marks the end of the maga movement.

it might be the end of the MAGA movement, but once vance is president and given his age, and given the power consolidation that has taken place, he is like the american ruler for the rest of the lives of most of the people reading this.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

My view is that this is being pushed by the Big Tech and aligned interest groups. They can juke the algorithm to get Epstein to the top of everyone's social media feed. This story will not go away until Trump is out of office.

They are done with Trump once the BBB was passed. Why do you think Trump and Musk had such a nasty breakup?

JD Vance is their guy and they are clearing the runway for Vance to land AF1. Trump is no longer of any use to them.

The Big Tech guys think they know everything and are in charge.

Tell me, where is Elon Musk now?

No, this Epstein stuff is all MAGA. Dems are just along for the ride.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:So if he is now turning on MAGA, will MAGA turn on him and anoint a new leader? Because you know Bannon and the others have that list or could pay someone to release it and by golly I want to see it happen. Sure Clinton is on there-I don’t care. I want Trump exposed for all his lies. I don’t just want the list-I want them to release whatever other dirt they have on him and his use of Epstein’s “services” because you know someone out there has the dirt. Where are the Deepthroats of the world? Where’s the gumshoe reporters? All you need is a credible tip to get the smoking gun.

MAGA is a cult led by Trump. Trump can say whatever he wants and the idiots will fall in line and create their own justification. Maybe some grumbling but in the end they'll corral in daddy's waiting arms.

I am not so sure this time. They have never reacted to him in this way. And now he is lashing out at them on social media, which also hasn’t happened before. I think they have hit the point of no return. Trump can bribe and blackmail politicians and some of the celebrities who don’t fall in line. But a pissed off maga is kinda out of his control at this point.

I doubt it. It's a lot of (perfectly understandable) wishful thinking.

Epstein is a core issue for MAGA. And it’s not even really a conspiracy. We all know it happened, and that high profile people were involved. And really, we all know he was involved as well (particularly as he protests far too much for his own good this time). At the very least, this takes a lot of wind out of the MAGA movement.

+1 The conspiracy part is the QAnon sh!t that the country is run by a pedophile cabal of Democrats and Hollywood bigwigs who drink the blood of babies. This actually happened.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if he is now turning on MAGA, will MAGA turn on him and anoint a new leader? Because you know Bannon and the others have that list or could pay someone to release it and by golly I want to see it happen. Sure Clinton is on there-I don’t care. I want Trump exposed for all his lies. I don’t just want the list-I want them to release whatever other dirt they have on him and his use of Epstein’s “services” because you know someone out there has the dirt. Where are the Deepthroats of the world? Where’s the gumshoe reporters? All you need is a credible tip to get the smoking gun.

MAGA is a cult led by Trump. Trump can say whatever he wants and the idiots will fall in line and create their own justification. Maybe some grumbling but in the end they'll corral in daddy's waiting arms.

I am not so sure this time. They have never reacted to him in this way. And now he is lashing out at them on social media, which also hasn’t happened before. I think they have hit the point of no return. Trump can bribe and blackmail politicians and some of the celebrities who don’t fall in line. But a pissed off maga is kinda out of his control at this point.

MAGA has always been the party of sex with underage boys and girls. Their towns are filled with anti-incest billboards imploring "She's your daughter, not your date."
That's why they project so much about it to deflect attention from themselves. They are frustrated but they get it. The rage must always be directed outward.

Which is why the "normies" went nuts over "Pizzagate" - because it threw the Dems as the ones with the pedophile problem. Of course, Pizzagate was totally false. so now, the petard is swinging back.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

My view is that this is being pushed by the Big Tech and aligned interest groups. They can juke the algorithm to get Epstein to the top of everyone's social media feed. This story will not go away until Trump is out of office.

They are done with Trump once the BBB was passed. Why do you think Trump and Musk had such a nasty breakup?

JD Vance is their guy and they are clearing the runway for Vance to land AF1. Trump is no longer of any use to them.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So if he is now turning on MAGA, will MAGA turn on him and anoint a new leader? Because you know Bannon and the others have that list or could pay someone to release it and by golly I want to see it happen. Sure Clinton is on there-I don’t care. I want Trump exposed for all his lies. I don’t just want the list-I want them to release whatever other dirt they have on him and his use of Epstein’s “services” because you know someone out there has the dirt. Where are the Deepthroats of the world? Where’s the gumshoe reporters? All you need is a credible tip to get the smoking gun.

MAGA is a cult led by Trump. Trump can say whatever he wants and the idiots will fall in line and create their own justification. Maybe some grumbling but in the end they'll corral in daddy's waiting arms.

I am not so sure this time. They have never reacted to him in this way. And now he is lashing out at them on social media, which also hasn’t happened before. I think they have hit the point of no return. Trump can bribe and blackmail politicians and some of the celebrities who don’t fall in line. But a pissed off maga is kinda out of his control at this point.

I doubt it. It's a lot of (perfectly understandable) wishful thinking.

Epstein is a core issue for MAGA. And it’s not even really a conspiracy. We all know it happened, and that high profile people were involved. And really, we all know he was involved as well (particularly as he protests far too much for his own good this time). At the very least, this takes a lot of wind out of the MAGA movement.

Anonymous wrote:Let's focus on what matters. A few raped minors over a few decades is a small price to pay to get rid of immigrants, especially if those immigrants can be trafficked to 3rd countries to become slaves producing products that will raise billions of dollars in tariff payments from working-class Americans.

Focus on the message and the movement, not the messenger. And buy more Trump water of the toilet!

I couldn’t tell if this was satire until the last sentence.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
FOX NEWS IS SUPPRESSING ALL NEWS SURROUNDING THE EPSTEIN FILES.

Therefore, most of Trump's supporters will not see any of it.

I don’t think it matters anymore. It’s a small fraction of Rs who only get their news from fox. The vast majority will learn about it in other RW rags or from his very own sm posts, insulting his supporters. Eventually fox viewers will hear about it when he goes off on some temper tantrum during a live interview or press conference and says something about this being a hoax.

He turned on his base, his base turned on him. He’s done. If it continues to escalate, maybe it will lead to him being impeached and removed. More likely, he will get through the rest of his term as a lame duck president. No more strong-arming the public. He will never again have the trust or clout for that.

He's already bankrupting, starving, and killing his supporters. Why would protecting rapists be their red line?