Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:16     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

This is terrifying


And it’s a great distraction while the administration continues its horror show of decimating government while people are focused on this tragedy
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:15     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!


So they sabotaged it? I doubt that very much. I have a higher opinion of FAA employees than you do.


Not sabotage. Stress.

Remember that one of Trump’s people said their goal was to “traumatize federal employees.”
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:14     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:I want everyone also to say a prayer and hold in their hearts all the law enforcement and fire rescue/recovery divers that jumped into dark freezing water last night and swam through jet fuel and dangerous debris, only to be met with a plan full of dead teenagers. They should have the thanks, prayers, and support of all of us. I cannot imagine anything more scary and horrific. I hope they are all getting excellent mental health support.


Hear hear.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:14     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know whether helicopters crossing are supposed to wait for an affirmative okay to cross from the ATC, or whether they can cross unless told NOT to cross by ATC?

This does seem like a crazy intersection to me.


There’s a blackhawk pilot on ABC News - the helicopter was likely not flying low enough given planes descending onto the runway.


People complain when they fly low.


So fly in the path of commercial flights? This should not be left to the pilot’s discretion.


ATC tells the helicopter to go around the plane to no response.


Why was the helicopter even there in a busy flight landing path?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:13     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any experience with how this type of wreckage impacts use of the river in the near future? Thank god the river was mostly frozen and not being used by recreational boaters.


Mostly frozen? Temps have been above freezing for several days.


I work at the Wharf and the river freezes and unfreezes when it's in the 40s 50s during the day.


I work in old town and am from Wisconsin. Rivers here don’t freeze beyond a thin surface layer for a day or two.


Wrong.


I believe you had a wreakage question. Not an ice question.

After bodies have been exhumed they’ll get an excavation barge with cranes and dredgers and get everything out and onto a barge.

May only take 2-5 days. Yes people work in the winter on rivers and oceans in the Midatlantic. We have a frankly mild and hot climate.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:11     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I despise this administration beyond belief but damn, there are some sick people in this thread.

Prayers for those who are lost and those working on recovery.


Sick like the defense secretary beginning his statement on a massive human tragedy caused by his employees by bragging that he is “leaning in” to shackling immigrants and sending them to Guantanamo? Like, that kind of sick?


+1 unlike gun violence or a fire, this tragedy affecting civilians is the result of the US military. It’s entirely reasonable to looking for leadership, reassurance, and answers.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:10     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone have any experience with how this type of wreckage impacts use of the river in the near future? Thank god the river was mostly frozen and not being used by recreational boaters.


Mostly frozen? Temps have been above freezing for several days.


Well large sections of the river were still frozen know-it-all, whether you understand that or not.

(How arrogant many posters are. Multiple people said they saw ice with their own eyes but you still think you are right!)


Stop it with the ice chunks. This isn’t Lake Michigan, it’s a briney river with a 6-8 foot tide every day that never freezes beyond some chunks and shoreline stuff.

Nothing to do with needing an icebreaker to get to the debris or damage. Yes divers need dry suits this time of year.

Terrible tragic accident. Unless we find out someone was way off protocol or not focusing.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:08     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I am grief-stricken for the local and national skating community. To come to this thread and see people spouting off about DEI when our community just lost real children with so much talent and life left to live … there simply are no words. This is real life. These are real people. This is an unimaginable tragedy.


I know, I didn't know any of these people but I've teared up several times today reading about this. It's so heartbreaking. And this just hits so close to home, thinking about all the times we, and so many others who live here, fly in and out of DCA.

Same. I can’t read about it any longer and did not sleep well after last night seeing what happened here.

And have service academy grad family members.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:06     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know whether helicopters crossing are supposed to wait for an affirmative okay to cross from the ATC, or whether they can cross unless told NOT to cross by ATC?

This does seem like a crazy intersection to me.


There’s a blackhawk pilot on ABC News - the helicopter was likely not flying low enough given planes descending onto the runway.


People complain when they fly low.


So fly in the path of commercial flights? This should not be left to the pilot’s discretion.


ATC tells the helicopter to go around the plane to no response.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:03     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:I despise this administration beyond belief but damn, there are some sick people in this thread.

Prayers for those who are lost and those working on recovery.


Sick like the defense secretary beginning his statement on a massive human tragedy caused by his employees by bragging that he is “leaning in” to shackling immigrants and sending them to Guantanamo? Like, that kind of sick?
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:02     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Does anyone know whether helicopters crossing are supposed to wait for an affirmative okay to cross from the ATC, or whether they can cross unless told NOT to cross by ATC?

This does seem like a crazy intersection to me.


There’s a blackhawk pilot on ABC News - the helicopter was likely not flying low enough given planes descending onto the runway.


People complain when they fly low.


So fly in the path of commercial flights? This should not be left to the pilot’s discretion.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:01     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:There’s zero reason for so many helicopters in DC, let alone “training flights.” They fly too low over residential areas and seem to just be doing it as a lark. They should train elsewhere.

Not so sure about the so called training.
I thought they delivered VIPs to CIA, no?


Yes, they dropped the VIP(s?) off at Langley and then a less experienced pilot took the controls for "training hours" for the flight back. They are very much trying to hide that the reason the helicopter was there at all was because some faux-VIP wanted to skip traffic.


If you know this, report it anonymously to the NTSB


It’s in the public flight record that the helicopter originated from the area near Langley.

https://globe.adsbexchange.com/?icao=a97753,ae313d


Still, given the incompetents currently running the government, you should point them in the right direction. The idiots need all the help they can get.
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:01     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:Military helicopter activity out here in the suburbs increased since the election, and much more since inauguration.


Hope they pull the data on this
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:01     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
Anonymous wrote:➡️ January 20: FAA director fired
➡️ January 21: Air Traffic Controller hiring frozen
➡️ January 22: Aviation Safety Advisory Committee disbanded
➡️ January 28: Buyout/retirement demand sent to existing employees
➡️ January 29: First American mid-air collision in 16 years

Making America Great Again!

This is terrifying
Anonymous
Post 01/30/2025 11:01     Subject: Plane crash DCA?
I despise this administration beyond belief but damn, there are some sick people in this thread.

Prayers for those who are lost and those working on recovery.