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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

+1

I believe the Harvard lawsuit couldn't prove otherwise, so they used the subjective "personality" assessment to tip the scale.

Or they found SAT scores was not an indicator of success after graduation.

and? That has nothing to do with admission criteria. And "success after graduation" is also subjective. But, if you want to use that metric, Asian Americans are more "successful" than other groups. So what? What does "success after graduation" have to do with whether colleges are discriminating against Asian Americans BEFORE they even get into college?

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Anonymous wrote:So glad that racist admissions will soon be a thing of the past! God bless the supreme court and president Trump for his visionary appointments! It takes courage to eliminate these racist policies

Tragically, the Asian-hating racists at the top universities are going to ignore any SCOTUS ruling. They will keep discriminating against Asians and will suffer no penalty for it.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

+1

I believe the Harvard lawsuit couldn't prove otherwise, so they used the subjective "personality" assessment to tip the scale.

Or they found SAT scores was not an indicator of success after graduation.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

Do you know a lot of Asians. At my highly competitive area, the Asian kids are on varsity and ranked athletes, hold leadership positions in competitive clubs, going to national competitions, participating in and winning awards across a range of the arts, have a gazillion volunteer hours… on top of doing well academically. Your notion of the Asian student who only studies is a very outdated (and racist) one.

exactly.. yet, I'm sure the ^PP thinks they are so enlightened and not racist.

Lol @ varsity

You don’t understand national honors.

Yes, LOL. Did you read it said varsity and ranked athletes - that includes nationally ranked hon.

Anonymous wrote:So glad that racist admissions will soon be a thing of the past! God bless the supreme court and president Trump for his visionary appointments! It takes courage to eliminate these racist policies

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

+1

I believe the Harvard lawsuit couldn't prove otherwise, so they used the subjective "personality" assessment to tip the scale.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

+1

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

Do you know a lot of Asians. At my highly competitive area, the Asian kids are on varsity and ranked athletes, hold leadership positions in competitive clubs, going to national competitions, participating in and winning awards across a range of the arts, have a gazillion volunteer hours… on top of doing well academically. Your notion of the Asian student who only studies is a very outdated (and racist) one.

exactly.. yet, I'm sure the ^PP thinks they are so enlightened and not racist.

Lol @ varsity

You don’t understand national honors.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

Well Harvard has a composite academic measure that is clearly more than SAT, no surprise it's completely consistent with this picture.

What I've noticed in this "debate" is that all evidence on observables points in one direction -- namely, in favor of Asians. The response is always that somehow the data that we can't observe happens to go the other way, and strongly enough that it compensates for the observables. As it happens, Asians outperformed Whites in alumni interviews at Harvard in the overall measure, and performed at parity on the personality measure. (The personality bias everyone mentions happened at the admissions office.) The one thing Whites outperform on systematically is being legacies.

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Anonymous wrote:I think the troll that's flooding this thread lately wants everyone to know that Asians are the perfect model students. Ok.

Harvard will be 100% Asian in a few years.

Happy now?

Bye.

If you made HYP a "pure merit" system it would be like TJ High School - 60% or 70% Asian and 20% white.

I'd be fine with that but blacks would scream their heads off just like they did about TJ demographics.

Define "pure merit"

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

You are way behind. Check back the thread.
Those high SAT GPA Asian kids also scored high on Activities and Leadership

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Anonymous wrote:wow this is crazy, you can be the 4th lowest decile aa and still be way above asians. crazy no wonder asians feel discriminated

Standardized tests are culturally biased and we're originally implemented by a racist.

If the index was normalized for tests, this alleged disparity ( SFFA is the source of this massaged data) would be much lower.

Anyways, the SAT / ACT impact will continue to diminish over time.

What are Asians and Whites in common but so much different for Blacks? culturally

What biase are we talking about?

What?

DP.. apparently, SATs are culturally bias, hence Black people score lower on SATs. But since Asian Americans score higher on SATs that must mean that they have more in common with white people.

That's the argument. And yes, it's laughable and ignorant.

Then what is your reason for AA people scoring lower?

Go ahead, say it out loud. I dare you. You know you think it. Have some courage and show everyone what you really think.

And that, right there, ladies and gents, is why colleges have the current policy.

not PP, but my guess is that they care less about education and put less effort.
Culturally they may value more in succeeding in the areas such as sports or entertainment industry like being a rapper or singer which are all ok. Nothing is wrong with that.

However if you want to improve on the education area, you have to go to the source of the problema and support and aid them to care more and put more effort in education instead of forcing it to increase the numbers artificially.

You actually did say it out loud! I am shocked! There it is, folks... your open racism of the day. Hope it is the last one you hear today, but unfortunately we are likely to get more.

PP you disgust me. You are repulsive. And also an imbecile. "Educate them more, but don't let them into the best colleges!" Lol.

Why are you mad??

The reason is simple on the surface, you care less and put less effort = lower score.
You care more and put more effort = higher score.

It's most likely a cultural thing. Asians probably care more about education and put more effort.

Seriously, what else could be the reason?

+1 work harder = better outcome. That applies to anyone, regardless of race, social economic background, or whether in academics or sports.

I tell my unathletic kid that if they want to be better at x sport, then they need to go outside and practice more, just as I tell them that if they want that A in math, then they need to study more.

Actually the high scorers who were a tiny bit lower than the top scorers did work harder at something, many things… community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Because of their hard work they were chosen over your kid who studied hard but was not willing to put the hard work in where it counts.

Your kid really just needs to step it up and do more and be better.

how do you know this?

And actually, those Asian American students who have top scores also did many things ... community engagement, arts, sports to name a few. Apparently, they do so well at all these things, that they have to score higher and do more than certain other groups.

That is what needs to be shown to prove the point that’s it’s a race based bias. Please post the National honors stats, the community engagement stats, the athletic stats. The arts stats.

The SAT stats are meaningless.

Show me students that excel at those things turned down for another student with no honors.

Anonymous wrote:So glad that racist admissions will soon be a thing of the past! God bless the supreme court and president Trump for his visionary appointments! It takes courage to eliminate these racist policies