Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:54     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny that nobody seems to doubt the story about him hurling a plate of ketchup at the White House walls. Like a toddler.


Also nobody is disputing that he wanted to get rid of the magnetometers so his people could get into the Ellipse crowd shot without being disarmed or that he urged a mob that he knew was armed to go to the Capitol or that he believed that the VP deserved the “Hang Mike Pence” chant.


They've purposely focused on disputing a meaningless detail to focus attention off of the fact that he wanted to get rid of the mags. They absolutely don't want to talk about that.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:52     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.


Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.


Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.


Sigh. I've posted multiple times over the years at this IP address with lefty posts. I fully support the Jan 6th committee hearings, and any DOJ investigation that can finally mete out justice.

But that video DOES NOT SHOW anything that can be used in a court of law. You will note that the Jan 6th committee DID NOT claim Trump was doing anything untoward in that video. They relied instead on the indirect account of Cassidy Hutchinson. There is a reason for that - if the video had shown anything obvious, they would have used it.

Please. It really hurts our cause when you claim things you can't prove. There is important evidence that has been described by sworn witnesses, and there is likely to be much more. You do not need to make up stuff!!


Don’t be so dense. No one said this was proof of assault or anything of the sort. I posted it to refute the constant stream of bullshit that his seat is so far back that his arms would have to be 8 feet long to grab Engel. It shows he’s close to the front seats and waving his arms. “Court of law?” WTF is wrong with you?
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:46     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny that nobody seems to doubt the story about him hurling a plate of ketchup at the White House walls. Like a toddler.


yeah, that's totally normal

But no WAY did he try to choke out his security guy. THAT'S a bridge too far /s


Specially when it’s one of his minions.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:43     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.


Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.


Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.


Sigh. I've posted multiple times over the years at this IP address with lefty posts. I fully support the Jan 6th committee hearings, and any DOJ investigation that can finally mete out justice.

But that video DOES NOT SHOW anything that can be used in a court of law. You will note that the Jan 6th committee DID NOT claim Trump was doing anything untoward in that video. They relied instead on the indirect account of Cassidy Hutchinson. There is a reason for that - if the video had shown anything obvious, they would have used it.

Please. It really hurts our cause when you claim things you can't prove. There is important evidence that has been described by sworn witnesses, and there is likely to be much more. You do not need to make up stuff!!





Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:31     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny that nobody seems to doubt the story about him hurling a plate of ketchup at the White House walls. Like a toddler.


yeah, that's totally normal

But no WAY did he try to choke out his security guy. THAT'S a bridge too far /s
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:30     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

Anonymous wrote:I think it's funny that nobody seems to doubt the story about him hurling a plate of ketchup at the White House walls. Like a toddler.


Also nobody is disputing that he wanted to get rid of the magnetometers so his people could get into the Ellipse crowd shot without being disarmed or that he urged a mob that he knew was armed to go to the Capitol or that he believed that the VP deserved the “Hang Mike Pence” chant.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:16     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

I think it's funny that nobody seems to doubt the story about him hurling a plate of ketchup at the White House walls. Like a toddler.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 15:06     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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there could be video of Trump strangling the USSS like Homer strangling Bart, and the MAGA crowd would still deny it. There is no use.





seriously
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:53     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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there could be video of Trump strangling the USSS like Homer strangling Bart, and the MAGA crowd would still deny it. There is no use.

Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:52     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:I am up early for no good reason, and the news just showed a “now deleted” tweet from Rudy Colludy saying Cassidy is clearly lying because she wasn’t there when he asked for his pardon ;p

These people are so stupid it hurts




I think Rudy has flushed all his brain cells down the toilet.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:51     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.


Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.

“Yah, see here when we visually lose the vehicle behind another object, see, that’s when he was out greeting people in the antifa audience because see he’s such a great all around guy and then see here he’s back in the vehicle just waving at the crowd behind him cuz he’s just sucha great showman that the crowd loves him even when they can’t see him. Yeah.”
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:49     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

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Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone that the issue is that Trump knew insurrectionists were armed and wanted them to have access to the Capitol.

That's it. Whatever he did in the SUV matter not one iota.



But everyone who thinks it's impossible for this to happens, does not know Trump. I clearly remember his visible anger at the debate with HRC.


Is this enough evidence to indict Trump for fomenting armed insurrection? (I dunno the legal terms here)

When I heard Hutchinson's testimony, this was the one thing that really jumped out at me. "They won't hurt me." Not a single human life matters to this man aside from his own! His children were present, but he didn't care if he put them and all his staff and advisors and onlookers, bystanders, etc. in mortal danger.

Why is this man not in jail? Why, o why?


My non-legal take? Because there are far right Republicans in every agency and they have protected him.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:47     Subject: Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Just want to interject that the SUV Trump was in has the middle set of seats removed. So he couldn't have reached the front in the way she relayed the story.


Do you mean the way Ornato relayed the story?


Look at the white cuffs through the SUV window in the snippet of video they showed. He’s right behind the front seats and is waiving his arms around like a lunatic.


Can you link to the video and point to a time? Because I saw a 4 minute clip of a series of cars waiting, then leaving after the speech, and not only do I not know which one the President was in, I do not see anything through the windows, apart from a few movements, but not anything or anyone recognizable.


Ah, OK, just saw the PP's clip. It looks as though Trump is waving at the crowd. He could be gesticulating in anger, but his cuffs are not far enough towards the front to touch the steering wheel or anyone in the front seats.


Lol. There was no crowd to wave at. They were facing the other way. Try harder.
Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:43     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

Anonymous wrote:Let me remind everyone that the issue is that Trump knew insurrectionists were armed and wanted them to have access to the Capitol.

That's it. Whatever he did in the SUV matter not one iota.



But everyone who thinks it's impossible for this to happens, does not know Trump. I clearly remember his visible anger at the debate with HRC.


Is this enough evidence to indict Trump for fomenting armed insurrection? (I dunno the legal terms here)

When I heard Hutchinson's testimony, this was the one thing that really jumped out at me. "They won't hurt me." Not a single human life matters to this man aside from his own! His children were present, but he didn't care if he put them and all his staff and advisors and onlookers, bystanders, etc. in mortal danger.

Why is this man not in jail? Why, o why?

Anonymous
Post 06/30/2022 14:43     Subject: Re:Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond