Anonymous wrote:One prediction seems quite plausible here: that Ukraine is not about to negotiate a favorable deal with Russia at this point. I think they can kick them out and deliver an embarrassment to Putin. Yesterday the Russians announced they changed to Plan/Step B in a news conference. Russia just wants to secure the SE of Ukraine. I think that Putin is going to have to move to Plan C quickly since Plan B seems to destined for failure.
What is Plan C? I think Putin is going to announce that he has gotten rid of the "nazi's"; Punished the Ukraine government/military, removing any threat; and removed the threat of Ukraine joining NATO. Now the people of Donbas canary to take the matters in their own hands, just needing supplies from Russia. Russia will be concluding our "Special Military Operation" and bringing our forces home. Basically he can say he succeeded (ignoring reality) and regroup. I am guessing this will happen in the next 2 weeks.
If he does this I think the West (Germany and the US) will go along with the gag and slowly ease the sanctions and in 6 months everyone will have forgot about this horror - except for the poor people in Ukraine who have died and the remainder who have to rebuild.
I think you are wrong. I agree with you that Putin's goal to occupy Ukraine and install a puppet government seems not reachable now and that Putin's claim that the goal now is just Donbass suggests that he is in trouble and knows it However, he is a dictator and his own survival is linked to success in this war. even according to the US, Russia may have lost up to 10,000 men and this is staggeriing number in just one month of war, not that far from the number of solders lost in Afganistan but that war lasted years. even a number of generals died, and tons of military equipment was lost. plus the entire world saw that Russia's army basically sucks. so many solders will not go back home, theyr bodies left on ukrainian fields, and the tens of thousands of soldliers who go back know very well what happened. all this to say that Putin cannot just leave, give weapons to rebels in Donbass and everything is OK. he was already giving weapons and funding rebels in Donbass so there was no need for this disaster for Russia. I think the very minimum he will need to take and annex Donbass, like he did Crimea in 2014.
also, it is a pipe dream that US Germany and the West will go back as nothing happened. there might be some kind of agreement to allow Putin to partially save face but no way this is going to go back to business as usual. there are already about 3M refugees all over Europe, people are hosting them in their homes (my brother who lives in Belgium signed up and is expecting to host some refugees in his house). so this is a major problem for Europe and even if the war ends, many people simply cannot go back to towns that no longer exist, at least for a while. these few weeks have seen a huge shift toward Russia. Europe is acting fast to cut off it energy dependence from Russia. until a month ago, Germany was ready to activate the Nordstream gaspipe, its own former chancellor was the at the top of the German company working on it, now getting Nordstream to work is out of the question and the entire Europe is working to quicly find other sources of energy, temporarily and permandently. PLus there is a huge push for a European army and defense system so Europe does not have to depend on the US, and most EU countries suddenly increased their military spending to 2% of the GDP and over, something that no American president, incuding Trump, had manage to obtain. many pro-Putin politicians in Europe found themselves in deep trouble, desperately backpedaling prior support for Russia. they are mostly "sovranists" right wing populist that have been going to Russia for years for support, think Mr Salvini in Italy of the lega party, who tried to go to Poland to show his support for the refugees and was welcomed by a Polish mayor who, at a joint press conference, gave him as a gift a shirt with Putin's face to remind Salvini of his true allegiance, making the day of many Italians. even the right wing populist rulers of Poland and Hungary, who for years openly defied the EU and acted much more in syntony with Putin, embraced the EU and criticized Putin. easy to rule on religion conservatism, xenophobia, anti-gay and trans when you rule a social conservative country and enjoy the benefit and money coming from the richer countries in the EU. another story is when your constituents see Russian tanks, army and missiles right at their border and think that they may be next to go back to the s$it they left 30 years ago. then Putin seems much more threatening that trans people.
I hope you are right but I am concerned that Putin knows his own survival (in literal terms) depends on something that can look like a victory in Ukraine proportional to the hge losses that Russia suffered and that we may see a lot more devastation in the Ukraine