Anonymous
12/04/2021 19:23
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, every rationale possible is being used by the PPs in this thread to excuse the gun owners and their kid (the shooter) passing the blame to anyone else.
I don't see anyone excusing anyone. Explanations are not the same thing as excuses.
This is a meta-excuse.
Avoiding all explanations is the same as throwing up your hands and saying there is no way to prevent this from happening in the future. Problems need to be diagnosed so solutions can be found.
Actually that video posted a few pages back was interesting. The interview guest was the former chief of the Detroit police department and of Detroit public schools police. (FTR, he said the latter job was way more stressful.) One thing he said they did was embed officers undercover on social media to monitor what kids were saying. He said they stopped several bad acts. If an undercover officer read anything concerning, they had officers at the kid's home the same day. Sometimes a kid was suicidal, sometimes a danger to others, other times neither but parents were made aware of a kid who was struggling and needed help.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 19:13
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.
Did the mom of a shooter do this?
https://www.amothersreckoning.com/
Oh wow, that is sick. And I certainly wouldn’t call her son “promising.” She must have been delusional.
They need to pass a new law. Relatives, including immediate guardians, of mass shooters cannot in any way profit from selling the rights to the narrative of the events or the tragedies.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 19:00
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:The teacher(s) who reported the student to Admin are the true heroes.
But, as usual, nobody listens to teachers.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 19:00
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.
Did the mom of a shooter do this?
Oh wow, that is sick. And I certainly wouldn’t call her son “promising.” She must have been delusional.
https://www.amothersreckoning.com/
Anonymous
12/04/2021 18:58
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.
Did the mom of a shooter do this?
They’re talking about Sue Klebold, but they’re wrong.she donated the proceeds of her book and her speaking engagements. She DEFINITELY has not “made herself into a victim.” Instead she’s gone around the country and out herself out there for ill-informed ridicule and derision, telling her embarrassing and upsetting story over and over again and dedicating her life to school shooting and gun violence preve
Anonymous
12/04/2021 18:55
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.
Did the mom of a shooter do this?
https://www.amothersreckoning.com/
Anonymous
12/04/2021 18:45
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.
Did the mom of a shooter do this?
Anonymous
12/04/2021 18:32
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
+1. I think they should be allowed to charge you with any crime committed with your weapon, as if you did the crime yourself.
100%! This should be common sense. Let’s think outside of the box here to try and discourage this from happening again without taking away anyone’s “precious” rights.
Yes! and the" my rights" crowd shouldn't have any problem with this since they're always on about responsible gun ownership,
+1
Anonymous
12/04/2021 18:31
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
+1. I think they should be allowed to charge you with any crime committed with your weapon, as if you did the crime yourself.
100%! This should be common sense. Let’s think outside of the box here to try and discourage this from happening again without taking away anyone’s “precious” rights.
Yes! and the" my rights" crowd shouldn't have any problem with this since they're always on about responsible gun ownership,
Anonymous
12/04/2021 18:00
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
+1. I think they should be allowed to charge you with any crime committed with your weapon, as if you did the crime yourself.
100%! This should be common sense. Let’s think outside of the box here to try and discourage this from happening again without taking away anyone’s “precious” rights.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 17:27
Subject: School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
The teacher(s) who reported the student to Admin are the true heroes.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 17:21
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Wow, every rationale possible is being used by the PPs in this thread to excuse the gun owners and their kid (the shooter) passing the blame to anyone else.
I don't see anyone excusing anyone. Explanations are not the same thing as excuses.
This is a meta-excuse.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 17:17
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
Yup. We won't have another mother publishing books and going on speaking tours, making herself into a victim.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 17:16
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
+1. I think they should be allowed to charge you with any crime committed with your weapon, as if you did the crime yourself.
+2 This is not any different from providing alcohol to their kids' party, then having a death from a DUI crash.
Anonymous
12/04/2021 17:03
Subject: Re:School Shooting in Michigan. 3 Teens DEAD. 1 15-yr old suspect in custody.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Imagine waking up one morning and realizing as a couple you're facing 30 years in jail AND $1 million in property bonds for something you didn't even do. What a time to be a parent.
It’s exactly what needs to happen and I am, for once, proud that they will be made an example. If this serves as even a slight deterrence to other parents who allow their child access (whither intentional or not - blood is on their hands) that is a GREAT thing for this country. Shame them, and punish them to the fullest extent of the law. Zero sympathy.
Yep. Maybe the next set of parents will think twice before getting a gun for their antisocial idiot of a child.
+1. I think they should be allowed to charge you with any crime committed with your weapon, as if you did the crime yourself.