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Anonymous wrote:It's the outdoors. It's the dogs natural habitat. Why don't you stop trying to own outside. It's open to squirrels, raccoons, mice, dogs, cats, bears.

You need a chill pill. If your kid is too fragile to see a dog outside, they probably should be home schooled in isolation, or in a special institution for children with special needs.

You are uneducated and low class.

Just alleging this shows you are.

She is "low class." This is "low class." Strivers gonna strive.

Anonymous wrote:Non dog owners, I have a question. Do you object also to parents who bring the fog to the neighborhood bus stop? What about the lidless person who walks their dog past that bus stop in the morning? Isn’t the real issue whether the fog is friendly and well trained?

Walking past if you bring the dogs far away from the children is not obviously not an issue.

Anonymous wrote:This is the talk of ES young mothers? Join the other thread: “when it’s the moms who are the mean girls”.

“Snowflakes,Karens,”. How about you follow and respect the rules of the school, be a proper citizen of your community, care about the needs of others and set a good example for your children.

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Way to teach your children that your needs are more important than anyone else’s. Total assholes.

Anonymous wrote:This thread is hilarious. I have been reading it out loud to my husband and cracking up. You all are generally ridiculous.

And yes, I bring my dog to school pick up. Literally never heard of anyone having an issue and my dog is well-behaved of course, so it really doesn't impact others.

But do carry on!

Well I hope you’re not at our elementary school because the principal’s newsletter today said in accordance with county guidelines dogs are not allowed on campus at arrival or pick up. But you do carry on.

Anonymous wrote:Non dog owners, I have a question. Do you object also to parents who bring the fog to the neighborhood bus stop? What about the lidless person who walks their dog past that bus stop in the morning? Isn’t the real issue whether the fog is friendly and well trained?

No, the issue is space and activity. A dog on a sidewalk, even near a bus stop, isn't a big deal because we're just waiting for the bus and can easily choose to stand further away from the dog if we need to. And once the bus comes, the kids get on or off and then it's over. It's not a stressful situation most times, plus at a bus stop the likelihood of knowing the dog owner (and the dog) are high because they live nearby. So it's easier to communicate "oh, Larla is a little fearful of dogs these days" and as neighbors people are inclined to be respectful and maintain distance.

If someone brought a poorly behaved dog to a school bus stop, I'd say something if/when the dog started causing issues and expect my neighbor/fellow parent to make good choices to make that situation as comfortable for everyone as possible. The kids don't have a choice of not going to the bus stop, the dogs do. So the kids get preference.

Drop off/pick up is a totally different deal. It's the entire school community. It can sometimes be chaotic. It's lots of ages of kids mixing together, including often ECE kids who might be the same height as the dog. Often families have to do certain things that they might not have control over -- check in with a teacher, drop something off with an admin, do a Covid screening, etc. So you can't just choose a spot away from the dogs. Especially if people with dogs are in the crowd, weaving through people to find their own kid. And the situation can be exciting for the dogs, too -- so many people to see, things to sniff, possible surfaces to lick! Even a well-behaved dog on a leash with a well-intentioned owner can get in the way, unintentionally frighten a very small child, etc.

I think the dog owners who have talked about bringing dogs to pick up but standing on the perimeter and just letting their kids come to them are not the issue. I doubt anyone really cares about that, and I get why it would be nice to do. But I'm talking about a mass pick-up situation like the one at our school (where dogs are not allowed) -- kids from age 3-11 lining up with teachers, families criss-crossing the field and playground, often to pick up kids from different classes, often with younger siblings in tow (meaning strollers everywhere, which is also annoying, but you can't expect people to leave their babies at home). People joke about the leashes tripping kids but it happens so easily unless people keep a short leash, which lots of people (and dogs) don't like doing.

I'm glad our school doesn't allow it and that people don't flaunt the rule. It's just not a good place for a dog and while I'm not usually a big "rules are rules" person, this is a situation where the rule is there to prevent any manner of issues and is probably best followed.

Anonymous wrote:Non dog owners, I have a question. Do you object also to parents who bring the fog to the neighborhood bus stop? What about the lidless person who walks their dog past that bus stop in the morning? Isn’t the real issue whether the fog is friendly and well trained?

No that is not the issue! The issue is that you’re an idiot and you’re making all dog owners look bad.

Sorry typos! Dog and kid-less!

Non dog owners, I have a question. Do you object also to parents who bring the fog to the neighborhood bus stop? What about the lidless person who walks their dog past that bus stop in the morning? Isn’t the real issue whether the fog is friendly and well trained?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. I LOVE DOGs. I have two and they are my children.
However, I hate when people bring them to drop-off and pick-up. Without fail there are dog fights once a week at our school. I don't get it.

Yes- a few people routinely brought their dogs to our school drop off and pickup, despite the fact that a couple of the dogs loathed each other and would fight every single day. This went on until one of the dogs bit me on the leg (I did not have a dog there, just was standing near one of the dogs, who was so worked up about being held away from the other dog that he just thrashed around and sunk his teeth into my leg). It broke the skin (through my pants), my calf was bleeding and I had to go to the doctor, plus verify that the dog was vaccinated, etc. (And for the record, the dad holding the dog didn't stop to see what had happened, just slunk away, so I had to email his wife after the fact).

It was fine, but it should not have gotten to that point. And thank god the person the dog bit was an adult and not a kid, because he easily could have gotten a good grip on the forearm or ankle of a kid. Know when your dog is stressed and in the wrong environment, and understand that yes, maybe it's your sweet, lovely little pup who can't handle school pickup. And if there's a rule that there are no dogs on school property, then yes- they are talking to you.

Thank goodness for many reasons. Both because a dog can do a lot of damage to a little kid (and cause real trauma that can lead to lifelong fear of dogs) and because there are states and municipalities where a dog biting a child means the dog has to be put down.

Dogs are great! They don't belong at school, sorry. I get the impulse but it's a bad idea for lots of reason. Dogs are animals and it's just not the right environment for them. And yes, there might be some dogs for whom this isn't true, but there's no way for the school or other families to screen them so it's best to just keep them out of the equation. There are lots of great places to bring dogs.

So I was advised by the doctor who I saw that Virginia (where I live) is a "one bite" state, meaning once a dog bites any person, it can be put down if reported. I did check that or attempt to report it, partly because I knew the family and didn't want these kids to lose their ordinarily lovely dog, partly because the mom was extremely mortified and the never brought the dog to school pickup/drop off again. But yes- if I had a beloved pet, I wouldn't want to run the risk that it could be put down if it has a bad day.

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:I walk my dog to get my kid and we stand on the playground because that’s where pick up is. I’m not by the doors but I’m on school property. I’d like to see more people walking and less cars blocking everything personally.

A dog on a leash ran about 8 feet today to try to jump on my 6 year old as we were leaving the school to walk home. If you are going to bring your dog, please don’t let it try to jump on kids, even if the dog is on a leash. Can any lawyers out there tell me who’s rights prevail—my child’s right to leave school property without being accosted by a leashed dog, or a dog owner’s right to bring the dog onto school property? I haven’t complained to the school yet, but I have a hard time believing dog owners don’t know that their dogs will try to jump on kids. In this case, I placed myself between my daughter and the dog, and the owner jerked the leash back, but not before the dog tried to sniff my crotch.

Sounds like you need a shower or change of pants.

I'm not afraid to create a scene. I would have kneed your dog in the chest or kicked it and dared you to do anything about it.

For a quick crotch sniff? Oh boy sounds like someone needs anger mgt stat!

Control your dog or I will.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I walk my dog to get my kid and we stand on the playground because that’s where pick up is. I’m not by the doors but I’m on school property. I’d like to see more people walking and less cars blocking everything personally.

A dog on a leash ran about 8 feet today to try to jump on my 6 year old as we were leaving the school to walk home. If you are going to bring your dog, please don’t let it try to jump on kids, even if the dog is on a leash. Can any lawyers out there tell me who’s rights prevail—my child’s right to leave school property without being accosted by a leashed dog, or a dog owner’s right to bring the dog onto school property? I haven’t complained to the school yet, but I have a hard time believing dog owners don’t know that their dogs will try to jump on kids. In this case, I placed myself between my daughter and the dog, and the owner jerked the leash back, but not before the dog tried to sniff my crotch.

Sounds like you need a shower or change of pants.

I'm not afraid to create a scene. I would have kneed your dog in the chest or kicked it and dared you to do anything about it.

For a quick crotch sniff? Oh boy sounds like someone needs anger mgt stat!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Agree. I LOVE DOGs. I have two and they are my children.
However, I hate when people bring them to drop-off and pick-up. Without fail there are dog fights once a week at our school. I don't get it.

Yes- a few people routinely brought their dogs to our school drop off and pickup, despite the fact that a couple of the dogs loathed each other and would fight every single day. This went on until one of the dogs bit me on the leg (I did not have a dog there, just was standing near one of the dogs, who was so worked up about being held away from the other dog that he just thrashed around and sunk his teeth into my leg). It broke the skin (through my pants), my calf was bleeding and I had to go to the doctor, plus verify that the dog was vaccinated, etc. (And for the record, the dad holding the dog didn't stop to see what had happened, just slunk away, so I had to email his wife after the fact).

It was fine, but it should not have gotten to that point. And thank god the person the dog bit was an adult and not a kid, because he easily could have gotten a good grip on the forearm or ankle of a kid. Know when your dog is stressed and in the wrong environment, and understand that yes, maybe it's your sweet, lovely little pup who can't handle school pickup. And if there's a rule that there are no dogs on school property, then yes- they are talking to you.

Thank goodness for many reasons. Both because a dog can do a lot of damage to a little kid (and cause real trauma that can lead to lifelong fear of dogs) and because there are states and municipalities where a dog biting a child means the dog has to be put down.

Dogs are great! They don't belong at school, sorry. I get the impulse but it's a bad idea for lots of reason. Dogs are animals and it's just not the right environment for them. And yes, there might be some dogs for whom this isn't true, but there's no way for the school or other families to screen them so it's best to just keep them out of the equation. There are lots of great places to bring dogs.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's the outdoors. It's the dogs natural habitat. Why don't you stop trying to own outside. It's open to squirrels, raccoons, mice, dogs, cats, bears.

You need a chill pill. If your kid is too fragile to see a dog outside, they probably should be home schooled in isolation, or in a special institution for children with special needs.

You are uneducated and low class.

I live in Alaska and regularly see black bears. We don't allow dogs or bears on our school campuses.

Stop trying to own school property.

Anonymous wrote:Agree. I LOVE DOGs. I have two and they are my children.
However, I hate when people bring them to drop-off and pick-up. Without fail there are dog fights once a week at our school. I don't get it.

Yes- a few people routinely brought their dogs to our school drop off and pickup, despite the fact that a couple of the dogs loathed each other and would fight every single day. This went on until one of the dogs bit me on the leg (I did not have a dog there, just was standing near one of the dogs, who was so worked up about being held away from the other dog that he just thrashed around and sunk his teeth into my leg). It broke the skin (through my pants), my calf was bleeding and I had to go to the doctor, plus verify that the dog was vaccinated, etc. (And for the record, the dad holding the dog didn't stop to see what had happened, just slunk away, so I had to email his wife after the fact).

It was fine, but it should not have gotten to that point. And thank god the person the dog bit was an adult and not a kid, because he easily could have gotten a good grip on the forearm or ankle of a kid. Know when your dog is stressed and in the wrong environment, and understand that yes, maybe it's your sweet, lovely little pup who can't handle school pickup. And if there's a rule that there are no dogs on school property, then yes- they are talking to you.

This is the talk of ES young mothers? Join the other thread: “when it’s the moms who are the mean girls”.

“Snowflakes,Karens,”. How about you follow and respect the rules of the school, be a proper citizen of your community, care about the needs of others and set a good example for your children.