Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 12:21     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:At work, most of the Black employees won’t get vaccinated. They claim they do not trust the government and that the vaccine was made by white people.



Your coworkers are morons.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 10:40     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:My sister is a Democrat. Wanted to wait a bit to see how it shaped up. Now, she feels like we've been lied to. When the vaccine came out it was "yayyy slim chance you'll get Covid". The narrative has changed so much and the media definitely doesn't help. So she lost a lot of faith in the process and how honest people were being. She looked at the stats and decided her chance of becoming severely ill or dying is very very low. And whenever she hears people try to argue that she will get very sick or she will kill grandma, or she's a selfish ahole, she becomes more bitter about how information has been warped and what people do with it.

From talking to her, it seems like this isn't a terribly uncommon stance with people she knows (who aren't republican).

I'm a Covid nurse so I have grilled her extensively about her point of view


This is frustrating. The narrative on vaccines has changed because the nature of the virus has changed. Scientists could only report on the effectiveness of vaccines as they pertained to the virus as it existed at the time. The Delta variant is different. Why can't people understand that this is a fluid situation that evolves rapidly, and the "narrative" necessarily will keep changing. Sorry to say, but your sister needs to work on her critical thinking skills.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 10:30     Subject: Re:The DMV Unvaccinated.
Why is it so hard to accept that 50% of Americans are making a different choice than you? I think it is about risk tolerance (or perception of risk), rather than politics or race issues. Some people just don't want a new vaccine for a disease with a low risk of death. Stressing out over who is vaxxed and who isn't can't be good for your immune system.


You are someone I hate

And yes, if your actions could be made illegal -- in time to help us all -- your actions should be illegal
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 09:05     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Why is it so hard to accept that 50% of Americans are making a different choice than you? I think it is about risk tolerance (or perception of risk), rather than politics or race issues. Some people just don't want a new vaccine for a disease with a low risk of death. Stressing out over who is vaxxed and who isn't can't be good for your immune system.


DP. Also making different choices from me:

-people who choose to drive drunk
-people who choose to dump their trash in public places
-people who choose to have dog-fighting as their hobby


So, as all of those actions are illegal - are you proposing that a law be passed that all persons must take the vaccine or risk punishment via fine and/or prison?


DP. Legality has nothing to do with it. Driving drunk, littering, and dog fighting are all objectively reprehensible things to do.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 08:50     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
My sister is a Democrat. Wanted to wait a bit to see how it shaped up. Now, she feels like we've been lied to. When the vaccine came out it was "yayyy slim chance you'll get Covid". The narrative has changed so much and the media definitely doesn't help. So she lost a lot of faith in the process and how honest people were being. She looked at the stats and decided her chance of becoming severely ill or dying is very very low. And whenever she hears people try to argue that she will get very sick or she will kill grandma, or she's a selfish ahole, she becomes more bitter about how information has been warped and what people do with it.

From talking to her, it seems like this isn't a terribly uncommon stance with people she knows (who aren't republican).

I'm a Covid nurse so I have grilled her extensively about her point of view
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 08:44     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:At some point hospitals should turn away the unvaccinated. You want to take your chances, that’s fine with me, you can do so at home without a ventilator. We shouldn’t have to pay for medical care due to your ignorance.


Despite my irritation at the people who can get vax'd who won't do their part for community health, I don't think we can or should ever do what you are suggesting. Who is going to make the decision about turning people away? And once we open that door, will it stop at the unvax'd? Will it stop at COVID? Will smokers be turned away? Fat people? Diabetics?
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 08:10     Subject: Re:The DMV Unvaccinated.
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Anonymous wrote:The share of adults fully vaccinated in Wards 7 and 8 is lower than the share in Alabama and Mississippi. The city says just 24 percent of those in Ward 8 are vaccinated.


Didn’t residents in those wards get priority access to the vaccines before those in some other wards? Doesn’t seem like unequal access is the problem here.


I'd love to see the cell phones of residents in Ward 8. I am betting their social media is bombarded with misinformation about the vaccine.

And yes, you can target these messages down to their neighborhoods.


I’m sure most white Trump voters social media is similarly bombarded with misinformation about the vaccine. Do they also get a pass?


Here's a newsflash - all social media is bombarded with targeted information - which is considered misinformation by the other side. Neither side has a monopoly on truth and facts, and the idea that "my" side is correct and "the other" side is stupid and misinformed is the main problem here.


True. This Canadian journalist explains that fact well:

Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 07:53     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
At work, most of the Black employees won’t get vaccinated. They claim they do not trust the government and that the vaccine was made by white people.
Anonymous
Post 08/11/2021 07:41     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
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Anonymous wrote:Tuskegee experiment. Apparently that’s why many blacks won’t get vaccinated. CDC did it before ... so why not again.


Oh stop. Does CVS stop the vaccine line to pull out the placebo or whatever for Black folks. Insanity. Shame on you for even mentioning in this day abs age. Communities are falling over to get minorities vaccinated with the same, exact vaccine white folks are getting.


Listen to the mayor’s spoke person. Wake up. Many Blacks don’t trust the gov. If you dint get this you’re clueless.


I don’t listen to anything the Mayor or her lackeys say. Dumb and dumber. Excuses are fine - but own your choices / don’t blame the government. Pathetic.

I think that’s why the local media have recently fallen silent on articles criticizing anti-vaxers and shaming those who have yet to receive the vaccine.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:37     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Tuskegee experiment. Apparently that’s why many blacks won’t get vaccinated. CDC did it before ... so why not again.


Oh stop. Does CVS stop the vaccine line to pull out the placebo or whatever for Black folks. Insanity. Shame on you for even mentioning in this day abs age. Communities are falling over to get minorities vaccinated with the same, exact vaccine white folks are getting.


Listen to the mayor’s spoke person. Wake up. Many Blacks don’t trust the gov. If you dint get this you’re clueless.


I don’t listen to anything the Mayor or her lackeys say. Dumb and dumber. Excuses are fine - but own your choices / don’t blame the government. Pathetic.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 19:13     Subject: The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tuskegee experiment. Apparently that’s why many blacks won’t get vaccinated. CDC did it before ... so why not again.


Oh stop. Does CVS stop the vaccine line to pull out the placebo or whatever for Black folks. Insanity. Shame on you for even mentioning in this day abs age. Communities are falling over to get minorities vaccinated with the same, exact vaccine white folks are getting.


Listen to the mayor’s spoke person. Wake up. Many Blacks don’t trust the gov. If you dint get this you’re clueless.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 16:52     Subject: Re:The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Share of fully vaccinated adults by ward, per the government:

Ward 1 -- 46 percent
Ward 2 -- 45 percent
Ward 3 -- 49 percent
Ward 4 -- 49 percent
Ward 5 -- 43 percent
Ward 6 -- 50 percent
Ward 7 -- 31 percent
Ward 8 -- 24 percent

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/data/vaccination


The vaccination rates in Ward 7 and 8 are lower than they are in Mississippi and Alabama.


Well, must be all of the Republicans are in those Wards then!😝
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 13:44     Subject: Re:The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Share of fully vaccinated adults by ward, per the government:

Ward 1 -- 46 percent
Ward 2 -- 45 percent
Ward 3 -- 49 percent
Ward 4 -- 49 percent
Ward 5 -- 43 percent
Ward 6 -- 50 percent
Ward 7 -- 31 percent
Ward 8 -- 24 percent

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/data/vaccination


The vaccination rates in Ward 7 and 8 are lower than they are in Mississippi and Alabama.


This is why I think there has to be more information available to the public about what specific communities and demographics have low vaccination rates. Everyone keeps talking about Florida and the rise in cases and hospitalizations despite high vaccinate rates. Yes, a large percentage of older Floridians are fully vaccinated. But if you look at demographic information, some demographics had a 20% vaccination rate as of last week. In all areas, low vaccination rates in younger people who have high levels of public contact contribute to higher community spread, even where the overall vaccination rate is good.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 13:40     Subject: Re:The DMV Unvaccinated.
Anonymous wrote:Share of fully vaccinated adults by ward, per the government:

Ward 1 -- 46 percent
Ward 2 -- 45 percent
Ward 3 -- 49 percent
Ward 4 -- 49 percent
Ward 5 -- 43 percent
Ward 6 -- 50 percent
Ward 7 -- 31 percent
Ward 8 -- 24 percent

https://coronavirus.dc.gov/data/vaccination


The vaccination rates in Ward 7 and 8 are lower than they are in Mississippi and Alabama.
Anonymous
Post 08/10/2021 13:34     Subject: Re:The DMV Unvaccinated.
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Anonymous wrote:Before you tie it all to politics you do realize that blacks and Hispanics are less likely to be vaccinated than whites? They likely account for a share of the unvaccinated in this area. I know that is hard for some to wrap their heads around because it doesn’t fit with a simple minded political narrative. It’s a huge issue being overlooked by the left sadly. Another sign my party has become elite and out of touch.


Factually incorrect statement, at least in Montgomery County, where the vaccination rate for Latino residents is higher than the vaccination rate for white residents.



Prince George's County is predominantly black/AA and 70% of adults are vaccinated.


Where do you get that number? According to the State website, 54.3% of PG County population is fully vaccinated. That's still a hefty unvaccinated population. In Howard Co, 72.7% of the population is fully vaccinated.


WTOP. Four weeks ago. It should be higher now. https://wtop.com/prince-georges-county/2021/07/prince-georges-hits-70-vaccination-rate-for-adults/


Wow. This WTOP story is really wrong. They should print a retraction or correction. As of this week the numbers are 62% first dose and 54.5% fully vaccinated


Are you comparing percentage of adults 18 and up vaccinated to percentage of population vaccinated? Because those numbers are going to be different.


It wasn't wrong, but it might have been a bit misleading. The percentage given was for adults 18 and up. The percentage of the population, including 12-17 who are eligible to be vaccinated is much lower.

Enough of the population in PG County remains unvaccinated that they have the highest total number of new cases most days (which makes sense given the size of the county) and also have one of the higher average daily case rates per 100,000 (15.8). The only counties with higher daily case rates are Wicomico, Dorchester, Charles, and Worcester.