I would certainly not sign off on letting the children travel internationally with this man.

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Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

She has full decision making. She is looking for an unnecessary fight that isn't in the kids best interest. This has to be fake. It makes zero sense she is asking for the kids to be vaccinated and she demanded he take them. If she isn't capable of taking them except as a back up, maybe she shouldn't have custody.

Are you unwell? I do not have full decision making. I currently have primary physical custody and joint legal/medical. I will be filing a motion to get full decision making, after this.

Are you unwell that you have to start a war. Get them vaccinated and let it go.

Learn to read. She took them to be vaccinated, after it was court ordered and her ex still failed to take them.

Some of you have no clue how joint decision making works.

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Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

She has full decision making. She is looking for an unnecessary fight that isn't in the kids best interest. This has to be fake. It makes zero sense she is asking for the kids to be vaccinated and she demanded he take them. If she isn't capable of taking them except as a back up, maybe she shouldn't have custody.

Are you unwell? I do not have full decision making. I currently have primary physical custody and joint legal/medical. I will be filing a motion to get full decision making, after this.

Are you unwell that you have to start a war. Get them vaccinated and let it go.

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Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

What's he going to do? He has visitation, she has custody. He takes her back to court? Big deal. No judge is going to do anything about her taking the kids to be vaccinated. This entire post makes no sense that she bullied a man who has visitation to get the kids vaccinated when it was her responsibility with primary custody. It has to be fake. The mediator/judge would give an order allowing Mom to take the children, not dad.

Really? Judges just don't care when parents with joint decision making make unilateral, highly contested and irreversable medical decisions on behalf of miner children? I disagree.

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Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

She has full decision making. She is looking for an unnecessary fight that isn't in the kids best interest. This has to be fake. It makes zero sense she is asking for the kids to be vaccinated and she demanded he take them. If she isn't capable of taking them except as a back up, maybe she shouldn't have custody.

Are you unwell? I do not have full decision making. I currently have primary physical custody and joint legal/medical. I will be filing a motion to get full decision making, after this.

Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

Thank you, both for your English language comprehension and for your kindness.

Its ironic to me that the posters telling me to "stop the drama" are advocating for a course which is guaranteed to bring drama. Because we have joint legal and medical decision making power, this has been a powerful example to me of letting the court work, and continuing to do the right thing.

I followed the rules, made a common sense appeal, and the PCDM ruled in my favor. He then hung himself by willfully flaunting his refusal to obey the court, and I believe that ultimately this will be a key piece in getting me full decision making. I now have vaccinated kids and a more salient appeal to take custody. Nothing dramatic about the outcome, only positives.

Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

She has full decision making. She is looking for an unnecessary fight that isn't in the kids best interest. This has to be fake. It makes zero sense she is asking for the kids to be vaccinated and she demanded he take them. If she isn't capable of taking them except as a back up, maybe she shouldn't have custody.

Anonymous wrote: Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

What's he going to do? He has visitation, she has custody. He takes her back to court? Big deal. No judge is going to do anything about her taking the kids to be vaccinated. This entire post makes no sense that she bullied a man who has visitation to get the kids vaccinated when it was her responsibility with primary custody. It has to be fake. The mediator/judge would give an order allowing Mom to take the children, not dad.

Do not you PP's understand that OP's currently has 'joint' medical decision making in her decree? If she 'just took them' without his consent, he could take her to court. I guess she could swear the kids to secercy, but that is not what is best for the kids in this situation.

Op did the right thing. She filed with court, they ordered the kids to be vaccinated. He failed to follow orders. She got them vaccinated. She did it RIGHT. Now she can file for more decision making.

Anonymous wrote:I'm leaning toward OP being a troll (or perhaps embellishing, a lot), but if it is real, she loves the drama for sure.

Yes she (if true) could avoid the ex or conversations except for child exchanges. Get them vaccinated and that should be it.

I'm leaning toward OP being a troll (or perhaps embellishing, a lot), but if it is real, she loves the drama for sure.

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Anonymous wrote:Update: PDMC rendered a decision that kids must be vaccinated and exH must take them.

She cited the facts I provided vs his “feelings” and made it an official ruling.

I appreciate the helpful posters so much!! And yes- PP I get your feeling and where your heart was at when you posted “just don’t talk to him”- but it’s not that easy. He is court ordered to have no contact with me outside of civil communicator, but with three kids in sports and traveling and school etc there are just issues you can’t refuse to talk about without facing repercussions. It’s all crap.

This has to be fake or you don't have custody. This makes zero sense that he has to take them to be vaccinated? As their mom, why wouldn't you take them to be vaccinated?

The decision was rendered on the 5th, his parenting time was the 6th and 7th and he was ordered to take him on those days.

They came back to me on the 8th unvaccinated. He’s in contempt, I’m filing for medical decision making as a result.

Following that stellar example of parenting his attorney notified mine they’re filing a motion to increase his custody time to 50/50. Good times. Not a troll. I took them on the 9th to be vaccinated

How is this even an issue? You have primary custody, you take them and get them vaccinated. If he doesn't have 50/50 it is your responsibility, no this. Grow up.

Sigh. I am fairly grown. Grown enough to distinguish between primary physical custody, and joint medical decision making. Thank you for your input.

Why on earth are you doing what you are doing? You keep going after him and ultimately you are hurting your kids. He wants 50/50 and you refuse. So, grow up and do your job as a parent aanad take the kids to be vaccinated. He doesn't have custody. You do. This is the custodial parents responsibility.

I agree. I took my son to get vaccinated. They didn't ask for marriage or divorce decree. It's that easy OP. Take them to get vaccinated and stop with all the nonsense and drama.

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Anonymous wrote:Update: PDMC rendered a decision that kids must be vaccinated and exH must take them.

She cited the facts I provided vs his “feelings” and made it an official ruling.

I appreciate the helpful posters so much!! And yes- PP I get your feeling and where your heart was at when you posted “just don’t talk to him”- but it’s not that easy. He is court ordered to have no contact with me outside of civil communicator, but with three kids in sports and traveling and school etc there are just issues you can’t refuse to talk about without facing repercussions. It’s all crap.

This has to be fake or you don't have custody. This makes zero sense that he has to take them to be vaccinated? As their mom, why wouldn't you take them to be vaccinated?

The decision was rendered on the 5th, his parenting time was the 6th and 7th and he was ordered to take him on those days.

They came back to me on the 8th unvaccinated. He’s in contempt, I’m filing for medical decision making as a result.

Following that stellar example of parenting his attorney notified mine they’re filing a motion to increase his custody time to 50/50. Good times. Not a troll. I took them on the 9th to be vaccinated

How is this even an issue? You have primary custody, you take them and get them vaccinated. If he doesn't have 50/50 it is your responsibility, no this. Grow up.

Sigh. I am fairly grown. Grown enough to distinguish between primary physical custody, and joint medical decision making. Thank you for your input.

Why on earth are you doing what you are doing? You keep going after him and ultimately you are hurting your kids. He wants 50/50 and you refuse. So, grow up and do your job as a parent aanad take the kids to be vaccinated. He doesn't have custody. You do. This is the custodial parents responsibility.

Maybe you missed a few things.

- they have joint on medical decisions

- he had the kids after the decision was made, and was court ordered to take them.

- since he failed to do that, OP has already taken them.

Yeah, lol. The previous PP, with their chant of "grow up", is the one who needs to do a little growing up of their own and learn to read.