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Anonymous wrote:News is now coming out that the section chief of Cyber-Counterintelligence at FBI Headquarters in 2015-2016 - when Russia was trying to help Trump win via hacking, and who helped spearhead the Trump-Russia investigation - was, himself, on Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska’s payroll. He's also long been suspected of being behind leaks to try and sink Hillary Clinton's presidential bid versus Trump

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/retired-top-fbi-counterintelligence-agent-led-trump-russia-probe-arrested-own-ties-russian-oligarch

Nice spin there, Skippy.

This agent worked on the Russia investigation AND the Wikileaks investigation.

He was just another dirty FBI agent trying to tank Trump's presidency. There have been so many........

LMAO sorry but YOU are the one trying to spin this... Deripaska and Trump were in contact while he was running against Clinton. And Russia was trying to tank Clinton's campaign. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/manafort-offered-to-give-russian-billionaire-private-briefings-on-2016-campaign/2017/09/20/399bba1a-9d48-11e7-8ea1-ed975285475e_story.html?utm_term=.0173efdaf062

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Anonymous wrote:News is now coming out that the section chief of Cyber-Counterintelligence at FBI Headquarters in 2015-2016 - when Russia was trying to help Trump win via hacking, and who helped spearhead the Trump-Russia investigation - was, himself, on Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska’s payroll. He's also long been suspected of being behind leaks to try and sink Hillary Clinton's presidential bid versus Trump

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/retired-top-fbi-counterintelligence-agent-led-trump-russia-probe-arrested-own-ties-russian-oligarch

Nice spin there, Skippy.

This agent worked on the Russia investigation AND the Wikileaks investigation.

He was just another dirty FBI agent trying to tank Trump's presidency. There have been so many........

Anonymous wrote:News is now coming out that the section chief of Cyber-Counterintelligence at FBI Headquarters in 2015-2016 - when Russia was trying to help Trump win via hacking, and who helped spearhead the Trump-Russia investigation - was, himself, on Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska’s payroll. He's also long been suspected of being behind leaks to try and sink Hillary Clinton's presidential bid versus Trump

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/retired-top-fbi-counterintelligence-agent-led-trump-russia-probe-arrested-own-ties-russian-oligarch

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Anonymous wrote:One reason to think it’s not real is that it starts the timeline for the Russian manipulation campaign in Jan. 2016, when we know it actually began earlier.

Good point.

I think what Kasparov said about it is probably true, though. This document may be faked, but essence of what is says is correct and goes with what we know already.

Just making sure you understand that what you're saying is: I don't care about the facts, I just feelz this is true.

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Anonymous wrote:Sorry I just don’t believe it.

I agree that Trump was the best way for Russia to destabilize the US. I also am convinced (by the evidence) that Russia interfered in our elections on behalf of team Trump. No question about any of that.

But this memo? It’s too pat. Too much what a liberal (like me) would assume to exist.

It’s a good fake. But it’s a fake.

Prove it then.

That’s not how this works. The memo has to be verified. I don’t have to prove that it’s fake.

I am a research scientist. Any time I see results that are exactly what I hoped for, I double and triple check my assumptions and experiment design so I didn’t create the answer I wanted. This feels fake to me and I will need it be validated thoroughly before I believe it.

What's so confusing? What's so invalid about it?
We already knew the Russians were conducting influence operations to help Trump in the 2016 election. Senate Intelligence Committee report. Mueller report (Internet Research Agency and FSB indictments). That's all been established. We knew Russia did this.

We just never, until now, had proof of a direct link of all of this back to Putin himself, nor deeper insights into the motives.

It’s this proof that I don’t think will hold up. It’s like the Bush story that got Dan Rather fired. The outlines are true. It sounds plausible. But the reason major outlets aren’t reporting this is that the document cannot be verified. I am not saying anything in your first paragraph is wrong.

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Anonymous wrote:One reason to think it’s not real is that it starts the timeline for the Russian manipulation campaign in Jan. 2016, when we know it actually began earlier.

Good point.

I think what Kasparov said about it is probably true, though. This document may be faked, but essence of what is says is correct and goes with what we know already.

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Anonymous wrote:One reason to think it’s not real is that it starts the timeline for the Russian manipulation campaign in Jan. 2016, when we know it actually began earlier.

Good point.

I think what Kasparov said about it is probably true, though. This document may be faked, but essence of what is says is correct and goes with what we know already.

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Doesn’t change the fact that we already know the broad outlines of this to be true.

Exactly.

Trump has been mobbed up his whole life.
He was compromised into running for President.
He did Putin's bidding for 4 years.

Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

+1. Doesn’t change that Trump was the most morally compromised, disloyal, incompetent president in history.

You’re building him up much more than Putin ever could have.

And it all points to your being very naive about how awful most powerful people are.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s Trump shouting in his Mar a Lago bathrobe this morning? So funny that Putin thought him a fool and a puppet as well…

Probably nothing. He was in on it, and he doesn’t bite back at people who have more power than him. Remember this?

Oh yes the subservient puppy walk

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Doesn’t change the fact that we already know the broad outlines of this to be true.

Exactly.

Trump has been mobbed up his whole life.
He was compromised into running for President.
He did Putin's bidding for 4 years.

Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

+1. Doesn’t change that Trump was the most morally compromised, disloyal, incompetent president in history.

You’re building him up much more than Putin ever could have.

And it all points to your being very naive about how awful most powerful people are.

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Anonymous wrote:
Doesn’t change the fact that we already know the broad outlines of this to be true.

Exactly.

Trump has been mobbed up his whole life.
He was compromised into running for President.
He did Putin's bidding for 4 years.

Now the chickens are coming home to roost.

+1. Doesn’t change that Trump was the most morally compromised, disloyal, incompetent president in history.