Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s made me mad. I will never ever forget the feeling of abandonment. The whole world walked out. I was home alone with 3 small children, one with special needs, for 15 months. Our schools didn’t reopen. Therapies were only on zoom. And nobody cared. My parents social distanced from us. My DH can’t work from home and was out of the house from 8-7 every weekday. Soooo many “friends” and neighbors gushed about all the “silver linings” of the pandemic and how they enjoyed the family time and slower pace. Can’t relate. At all.
I am going to say this as gently as I can — you are alone when it comes down to taking care of your kids. Yes, we all build villages which are very important, however, your kids will be entirely dependent on you during emergencies like a pandemic. That is true for everyone. The therapists our kids depend on? They also have families who they had to protect from a pandemic. Same for the teachers and even your parents — they had to protect themselves. Being mad at people for taking care of themselves and protecting their own families is a waste of precious emotional energy because the outcome will always be the same.
NP here. But society decided to reopen freaking bars!! Disney was open. You could go bowling while kids sat at home unable to attend in-person school or get the important therapies they needed.
I’m sorry, but our country made its priorities very clear over the past 15 months and it’s apparent that children, particularly those with special needs/mental health issues/too young to benefit from virtual learning were absolute bottom of the barrel. Working moms a close second.
It’s not like the rest of the country was also hunkering at home along with the parents of young kids. I saw so many of my child free friends taking advantage of cheap flights, going out to restaurants, etc. while my 5 year old sat at home on an iPad trying to learn how to read and I tried to cling to my job. So sorry, but I think parents of young kids have a right to feel like we’ve been abandoned by society. We sacrificed the well-being of the young to by and large save the elderly (many of which I saw living their lives out and about on social media as if there wasn’t even a pandemic!).
And even now, many camps aren’t offering aftercare this year or have reduced enrollment because staffing/planning was done back in Feb. before we knew what the summer would look like. Life is back to normal for many people, but those of us with young kids are still very much awaiting full reopening and hopefully a safe pediatric vaccine.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Having small kids and taking care of them is the most isolating and tiring experience even when there is no pandemic.
People need to also understand that having more than 1 or 2 kids is not easy. No one owes the raising of your kids to you. The parents have to raise them. If they are lucky they will have paid or unpaid caregivers at various times but it is not a guarantee.
If you cannot do it on your own and do it well then don't have kids.
Oh shut up.
This poster isn’t wrong though…when the going gets tough, raising kids is entirely on the parents.
Absolutely. But do you understand how many people had to work in person over pandemic that had no childcare resources? Our children are absolutely our responsibility…but no one has 11 back up plans for plague. It’s so dismissive.
Yes, it's a pat answer that really has no connection to reality. So the nurse/ essential worker you need more than ever to be working has no child care -- but that just means she shouldn't have had kids? What about the guy bringing you your groceries so you can bunker down with your family--should he have created a pandemic-proof backup childcare system 8 years ago in anticipation of potential world pandemic? We structure society in ways that maximize public wellbeing that involve interdependence. In all sorts of ways - hardly just childcare. It is just idiot magical thinking to say everyone can/should immediately be able to cope and flourish without these structures.
Thank you.
Whatever. Do I feel bad for the truly low-income essential families who were crushed by this? Absolutely.
Do I feel bad for the Pulomonologist married to the research scientist with the $400K dual-income who had to suddenly pay for private childcare during the year? Not a chance.
Lots of high income and high net worth individuals in this region had to shift their finances from $5,000/trip vacations to paying nannies through the nose. And I do not care.
I really don’t think the people claiming hardship on here are those that make 400k per year and simply canceled some travel in order to afford a nanny. Heck those people probably already had a nanny.
They are not representative of the vast majority of people in this area, so your attitude is unnecessarily flippant.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Having small kids and taking care of them is the most isolating and tiring experience even when there is no pandemic.
People need to also understand that having more than 1 or 2 kids is not easy. No one owes the raising of your kids to you. The parents have to raise them. If they are lucky they will have paid or unpaid caregivers at various times but it is not a guarantee.
If you cannot do it on your own and do it well then don't have kids.
Oh shut up.
This poster isn’t wrong though…when the going gets tough, raising kids is entirely on the parents.
Absolutely. But do you understand how many people had to work in person over pandemic that had no childcare resources? Our children are absolutely our responsibility…but no one has 11 back up plans for plague. It’s so dismissive.
Yes, it's a pat answer that really has no connection to reality. So the nurse/ essential worker you need more than ever to be working has no child care -- but that just means she shouldn't have had kids? What about the guy bringing you your groceries so you can bunker down with your family--should he have created a pandemic-proof backup childcare system 8 years ago in anticipation of potential world pandemic? We structure society in ways that maximize public wellbeing that involve interdependence. In all sorts of ways - hardly just childcare. It is just idiot magical thinking to say everyone can/should immediately be able to cope and flourish without these structures.
Thank you.
Whatever. Do I feel bad for the truly low-income essential families who were crushed by this? Absolutely.
Do I feel bad for the Pulomonologist married to the research scientist with the $400K dual-income who had to suddenly pay for private childcare during the year? Not a chance.
Lots of high income and high net worth individuals in this region had to shift their finances from $5,000/trip vacations to paying nannies through the nose. And I do not care.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s made me mad. I will never ever forget the feeling of abandonment. The whole world walked out. I was home alone with 3 small children, one with special needs, for 15 months. Our schools didn’t reopen. Therapies were only on zoom. And nobody cared. My parents social distanced from us. My DH can’t work from home and was out of the house from 8-7 every weekday. Soooo many “friends” and neighbors gushed about all the “silver linings” of the pandemic and how they enjoyed the family time and slower pace. Can’t relate. At all.
I am going to say this as gently as I can — you are alone when it comes down to taking care of your kids. Yes, we all build villages which are very important, however, your kids will be entirely dependent on you during emergencies like a pandemic. That is true for everyone. The therapists our kids depend on? They also have families who they had to protect from a pandemic. Same for the teachers and even your parents — they had to protect themselves. Being mad at people for taking care of themselves and protecting their own families is a waste of precious emotional energy because the outcome will always be the same.
Anonymous wrote:It turned me into a republican. I will not vote for Trump and I’ve masked/been vaccinated but going forward I’m only voting GOP. I’ve had enough of the over the top identity politics being so extreme lately. I’ve had enough of the COVID scare tactics. I want my kids back in school.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Having small kids and taking care of them is the most isolating and tiring experience even when there is no pandemic.
People need to also understand that having more than 1 or 2 kids is not easy. No one owes the raising of your kids to you. The parents have to raise them. If they are lucky they will have paid or unpaid caregivers at various times but it is not a guarantee.
If you cannot do it on your own and do it well then don't have kids.
Oh shut up.
This poster isn’t wrong though…when the going gets tough, raising kids is entirely on the parents.
Absolutely. But do you understand how many people had to work in person over pandemic that had no childcare resources? Our children are absolutely our responsibility…but no one has 11 back up plans for plague. It’s so dismissive.
In CRT scholarship, this attitude is evidence of white supremacy culture. It reflects rugged individualism (everyone is on their own, if you didn't have backup, backup backup pandemic childcare plans you are an irresponsible person), power hoarding and either or thinking. These people think that if it wasn't a problem for me, then it wasn't a problem at all. There's no sense of the greater good and no willingness to listen to the experiences of others, only blame and judgment. The resulting isolation pushes all of us further apart at a time when shared values and concern for the common good are needed the most.
Anonymous wrote:Made me really appreciate just how evil the Chinese Communist Party / Chinese government truly is.
They are the Number One threat to the world. Not just to their own citizens, but to every single human on this planet.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Having small kids and taking care of them is the most isolating and tiring experience even when there is no pandemic.
People need to also understand that having more than 1 or 2 kids is not easy. No one owes the raising of your kids to you. The parents have to raise them. If they are lucky they will have paid or unpaid caregivers at various times but it is not a guarantee.
If you cannot do it on your own and do it well then don't have kids.
Oh shut up.