Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:36     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
It's a great idea. But calling it a "day of independence" is confusing with the Fourth of July which follows - and even suggests that there are competing independence days.

Better to call it a "celebration (ir day) of freedom."
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:29     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
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Anonymous wrote:I don't see the logic in making Juneteenth a holiday since it was only about freeing slaves in Texas. I think they should honor the anniversary of the 13th amendment and that should be a federal holiday.


Why not both?


Because the 13th Amendment took effect on December 18, and that's an impractical date to have a federal holiday.

I don't care that Juneteenth's origin is specific to Texas. If they're going to add a holiday to the calendar they could do a lot worse than June.


So now our country will have two separate Independence Days, just 15 days apart. This is incredibly divisive.


Who is being divided? Do you also find it incredibly divisive to have two separate federal holidays to honor people who served in the US military, or is that not divisive because one is in May and the other is in November?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:29     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't see the logic in making Juneteenth a holiday since it was only about freeing slaves in Texas. I think they should honor the anniversary of the 13th amendment and that should be a federal holiday.


Why not both?


Because the 13th Amendment took effect on December 18, and that's an impractical date to have a federal holiday.

I don't care that Juneteenth's origin is specific to Texas. If they're going to add a holiday to the calendar they could do a lot worse than June.


So now our country will have two separate Independence Days, just 15 days apart. This is incredibly divisive.


How is it divisive? I mean, maybe you can argue that not freeing the slaves when the rest of the United States declared its independence was divisive, but that ship has sailed.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:26     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't see the logic in making Juneteenth a holiday since it was only about freeing slaves in Texas. I think they should honor the anniversary of the 13th amendment and that should be a federal holiday.


Why not both?


Because the 13th Amendment took effect on December 18, and that's an impractical date to have a federal holiday.

I don't care that Juneteenth's origin is specific to Texas. If they're going to add a holiday to the calendar they could do a lot worse than June.


So now our country will have two separate Independence Days, just 15 days apart. This is incredibly divisive.

Everyone can celebrate both?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:16     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don't see the logic in making Juneteenth a holiday since it was only about freeing slaves in Texas. I think they should honor the anniversary of the 13th amendment and that should be a federal holiday.


Why not both?


Because the 13th Amendment took effect on December 18, and that's an impractical date to have a federal holiday.

I don't care that Juneteenth's origin is specific to Texas. If they're going to add a holiday to the calendar they could do a lot worse than June.


So now our country will have two separate Independence Days, just 15 days apart. This is incredibly divisive.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:12     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
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Anonymous wrote:So what about us with AWS days tomorrow?


You deal with it and get your day off as always. It amazes me how stingy federal employees are about time worked. Those of us in the private sector aren’t nickel and diming our way through the work week. If we have to work extra hours, we deal with it. I don’t come in at 7:58 and take exactly 30 minutes for lunch and leave at exactly 3:58 or leave at 3:01 on days we get 59 minutes like my Fed colleagues do. Y’all are lazy and entitled. Suck it up.


Neither do most Feds...


NP but sorry all of the feds I know do. Literally down to the minute. And a few even lament that their commute can’t count towards work hours since they check email on the metro. Ridiculous.


I'm a fed who does that. I didn't in the private sector, but that's how my agency treats me. I can't leave work a few minutes early even if I don't have work -- I have to put in my 8 hours. Every minute needs to be accounted for. So, if it's good for the goose, it's good for the gander.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 16:03     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone cheering an "extra federal holiday", keep in mind a few years from now they'll get rid of any holiday having to do with founding fathers, calling it white supremacy, so we will in fact have fewer federal holidays.


You mean presidents day? What others are there? I think Columbus Day will go at some point which is ok.


President’s Day and Columbus Day isn’t even recognized in a large part of the country so they can get rid of those and lots of people won’t even notice.

Its a lot easier to add holidays than remove them. There also is no fixed amount of them. You can add a few and it really doesn't have a down side.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:56     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
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Anonymous wrote:Anyone cheering an "extra federal holiday", keep in mind a few years from now they'll get rid of any holiday having to do with founding fathers, calling it white supremacy, so we will in fact have fewer federal holidays.


We can add Appomattox day.


Didn't people try to turn MLK Day into Lee Jackson King Day?
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:50     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:Anyone cheering an "extra federal holiday", keep in mind a few years from now they'll get rid of any holiday having to do with founding fathers, calling it white supremacy, so we will in fact have fewer federal holidays.


We can add Appomattox day.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:40     Subject: Re:Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Apparently it's going to become National Whine Day.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:38     Subject: Re:Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:Its ridiculous. I work at a restaurant with several black coworkers and they aren't getting the day off. But white government workers are.


Black government workers get the day off too. I imagine white restaurant workers won't.

Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:35     Subject: Re:Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Its ridiculous. I work at a restaurant with several black coworkers and they aren't getting the day off. But white government workers are.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:33     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone cheering an "extra federal holiday", keep in mind a few years from now they'll get rid of any holiday having to do with founding fathers, calling it white supremacy, so we will in fact have fewer federal holidays.


You mean presidents day? What others are there? I think Columbus Day will go at some point which is ok.


President’s Day and Columbus Day isn’t even recognized in a large part of the country so they can get rid of those and lots of people won’t even notice.


Columbus day will absolutely not be going. It's going to become Indigenous People's Day
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:32     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:So what about us with AWS days tomorrow?


You deal with it and get your day off as always. It amazes me how stingy federal employees are about time worked. Those of us in the private sector aren’t nickel and diming our way through the work week. If we have to work extra hours, we deal with it. I don’t come in at 7:58 and take exactly 30 minutes for lunch and leave at exactly 3:58 or leave at 3:01 on days we get 59 minutes like my Fed colleagues do. Y’all are lazy and entitled. Suck it up.


Neither do most Feds...


NP but sorry all of the feds I know do. Literally down to the minute. And a few even lament that their commute can’t count towards work hours since they check email on the metro. Ridiculous.
Anonymous
Post 06/17/2021 15:31     Subject: Juneteenth a Federal holiday? What do you think?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Anyone cheering an "extra federal holiday", keep in mind a few years from now they'll get rid of any holiday having to do with founding fathers, calling it white supremacy, so we will in fact have fewer federal holidays.


You mean presidents day? What others are there? I think Columbus Day will go at some point which is ok.


President’s Day and Columbus Day isn’t even recognized in a large part of the country so they can get rid of those and lots of people won’t even notice.