Anonymous
06/26/2021 09:02
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LMVSC Red 03 Boys (CCL) - College soccer commitments (random order):
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
Thank you!! This is very informative.
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
Sorry. The ends don't justify the means. Seems like an awful lot of work for mediocre D3 schools.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 21:26
Subject: Re:list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
^^I thought the prior post provided generally good information and interesting details. I did want to quibble with this part though:
“Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.”
This is not entirely accurate. Several top D1 soccer schools that are also excellent academic schools do have minimum grade and score standards for athletes that would be challenging for a poor or average student to meet. These include Ivies, Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown to a lesser extent, and likely a few others. These minimums are well below what it takes for non-hooked kids to get in, though some of the lower-ranked athletic recruits will require scores closer to the general student population for admission, especially to the Ivies due to the index. Most other D1 schools lower their admissions standards significantly for athletes the coach is interested in. And no top D1 program or coach that I know of is going to reject a top recruit just because soccer is their only significant EC or achievement. They want you to not be annoying, arrogant, or a discipline problem, but if they think you can contribute on the field, they don’t care about much else. Most of the kids I know who were recruited to top programs did very little outside of soccer and school in HS—there is just not time. I’m not saying that’s the path to happiness in life, but I don’t want people to be too intimidated by the process.
“Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.”
This is not entirely accurate. Several top D1 soccer schools that are also excellent academic schools do have minimum grade and score standards for athletes that would be challenging for a poor or average student to meet. These include Ivies, Stanford, Northwestern, Georgetown to a lesser extent, and likely a few others. These minimums are well below what it takes for non-hooked kids to get in, though some of the lower-ranked athletic recruits will require scores closer to the general student population for admission, especially to the Ivies due to the index. Most other D1 schools lower their admissions standards significantly for athletes the coach is interested in. And no top D1 program or coach that I know of is going to reject a top recruit just because soccer is their only significant EC or achievement. They want you to not be annoying, arrogant, or a discipline problem, but if they think you can contribute on the field, they don’t care about much else. Most of the kids I know who were recruited to top programs did very little outside of soccer and school in HS—there is just not time. I’m not saying that’s the path to happiness in life, but I don’t want people to be too intimidated by the process.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 21:11
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LMVSC Red 03 Boys (CCL) - College soccer commitments (random order):
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
Thank you.
This was very helpful. Thank you.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 21:04
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:LMVSC Red 03 Boys (CCL) - College soccer commitments (random order):
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
Thank you.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 20:09
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:LMVSC Red 03 Boys (CCL) - College soccer commitments (random order):
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
Sorry. The ends don't justify the means. Seems like an awful lot of work for mediocre D3 schools.
The only mediocrity I see is you, and you reek of it to high heavens. Who on earth would say anything like this? What on earth is your problem? Anybody who invests this much significance in institutional rank is, in my experience, a terrible disappointment professionally after trying to succeed by checking what they believe are boxes that guarantee success. They don’t. Grow up.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 19:31
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:LMVSC Red 03 Boys (CCL) - College soccer commitments (random order):
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
Sorry. The ends don't justify the means. Seems like an awful lot of work for mediocre D3 schools.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 19:29
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Loyola twice??
Yes, two players made the roster.
Anonymous
06/25/2021 19:28
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Loyola twice??
Anonymous
06/25/2021 19:24
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
LMVSC Red 03 Boys (CCL) - College soccer commitments (random order):
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
George Mason University
Rensselaer Polytechnic institute
Bridgewater College
Virginia Military Institute
St. Lawrence University
Saint Vincent College
Franklin and Marshall College
Loyola University of Maryland
Loyola University of Maryland
U.S. Air Force Academy
For any DS or DP parent, I offer a few observations (take them or leave them).
As sophomores and juniors, these players played both travel and HS soccer.
As sophomores and juniors, they attended ID camps (at least two per year).
As sophomores and juniors, they played in national tournaments (JeffCup, FC Delco, EDP), regional tournaments (Bethesda, Potomac, SAC), and college showcases (CCL).
As juniors and seniors, they played in both VA State Cup tournaments. Some played in VISSL and VASL State tournaments (for their HS teams).
Entering senior year, some took additional training offered by a local college coach. Every player interested in playing collegiate soccer created highlight reels.
NCAA restrictions on recruiting because of COVID-19 proved very challenging as these players (and nearly all HS juniors and seniors) were limited in their ability to communicate with college coaches. Campus visits were prohibited. Current college athletes received an extra year of eligibility. Etc., etc.
While looking at the number of college commitments from a particular club may demonstrate the quality of training/development/play, IMHO whether an athlete plays for DA, ECNL, CCL, or NSCL, three things really matter:
1. The player's interest and commitment to college soccer
2. The ability to perform in front of college coaches, whether through ID camps, college showcases, or national/regional tournaments
3. The parents' willingness to support the process (even when it appears there is no process and no guarantees.)
To drive these points home, your DS or DD supremely benefits from high academic achievement. This is college soccer we're talking about. Not college football. Not college basketball.
Top D1 programs (boys) such as Georgetown or UVA maintain their academic standards for soccer. Period. You need high GPA, high SAT/ACT scores, and activities and achievements aplenty just to get accepted into the school. Then on top of your academics, you need to play soccer exceptionally well.
D3 schools, if collegiate soccer is what your DD or DS desires, offer phenomenal opportunities. These opportunities increase exponentially if your child is also an academic star. D3 schools offer no athletic scholarships. For LMVSC Red 03, academic/merit scholarships at some D3 schools were amazing: $15K, $20K, $30K, $35K per year.
(Of course, you must maintain your GPA to keep the scholarship in the out years.)
If you're in the midst of this as junior or senior parents, I wish you well.
If you're just starting HS with your DD or DS, please get smart quickly if collegiate soccer is the desired goal.
Anonymous
06/20/2021 17:35
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
RantingSoccerDad wrote:A bit of data here on which clubs send the most kids to Top 25 schools: https://www.soccerwire.com/resources/which-youth-clubs-had-the-most-2020-commitments-to-ncaa-mens-best-25-programs/
Thanks. I still do not understand the point about tracking this information unless you assume (1) club affiliation makes an extraordinary difference in recruiting (a great talent at dcu would not be recruited if he played at Arlington or VDA), (2) academies who send a number of kids to pros are inferior (because those kids are going pro instead of going to college - you should probably include pros in these numbers to get a better sense of who is producing the most elite soccer talent ), (3) really talented kids can and do move between youth clubs and areas (if not, why does national vs local tracking matter?), and (4) the results are similar year over year. Otherwise we might be drawing pretty ridiculous inferences from a very small data set with no longitudinal dimension.
It was pretty much as I expected for this area. Dcu and bethesda will place people in top soccer programs because really good players tend to go there in the first place. Other clubs are totally irrelevant because we would not move to play there. but in any given year, you may see a club like Celtic put 10 players or so in D1, some in very good programs.
Anonymous
06/18/2021 13:59
Subject: Re:list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
In threads like this, where the point is for a small number of people with actual experience with something (i.e. parents of successfully recruited athletes) to help the group learn something, it would be helpful if people start their post with some kind of credential. Do you actually have experience with this? Or just an opinion based on 2nd or 3rd-hand knowledge?
My older son was recruited to a high-academic D3 school from a DA club. My younger is being recruited by D1 programs now (just getting started) from an MLS academy.
This thread is about BOYS, so it is important to differentiate. There are lots more scholarship opportunities (and far fewer top players competing) on the girls side. Playing D1 soccer for a very good female player is much more realistic and attainable.
On the boys side, there are 9.9 scholarships per year at D1 schools, assuming they are fully funded, which many are not (you can ask coaches if their program is fully funded, but I haven't found a good place to look it up online). For example, most schools in the Patriot League are not fully funded. Some only recently added any scholarship at all. And as has been said, the Ivies have no athletic scholarships at all, despite being D1.
So even most D1 players are technically "walk-ons". And most scholarships are not full scholarships. A good D1 program may offer one full scholarship per class, on average. And those will be Top 100 recruits nationally. That's 4 of their 9.9 right there, if you think about it. So the entire rest of the team (of 25 or more) shares the other 5.9 in this example. Some halves; some quarters; etc. Keep in mind that even the "walk ons" were mostly recruited athletes -- the coach made sure they got in. They may have other scholarships or financial aid; or pay full freight.
D2 schools have 9 scholarships, and D3 schools have none.
Bottom line: if you are a top player on the top team of a good club in a good league, you can play in college. It probably won't be D1, and if it is, it probably won't be on scholarship. But that does not mean it isn't worth it! Playing a sport at a high level over a long period teaches you a lot! College admissions like it! Employers like college athletes! My older son got into a very selective D3 school he never would have sniffed without soccer. So don't put all your eggs in the soccer basket, but don't act like it's only worth it if you get a full ride to a D1 school!
My older son was recruited to a high-academic D3 school from a DA club. My younger is being recruited by D1 programs now (just getting started) from an MLS academy.
This thread is about BOYS, so it is important to differentiate. There are lots more scholarship opportunities (and far fewer top players competing) on the girls side. Playing D1 soccer for a very good female player is much more realistic and attainable.
On the boys side, there are 9.9 scholarships per year at D1 schools, assuming they are fully funded, which many are not (you can ask coaches if their program is fully funded, but I haven't found a good place to look it up online). For example, most schools in the Patriot League are not fully funded. Some only recently added any scholarship at all. And as has been said, the Ivies have no athletic scholarships at all, despite being D1.
So even most D1 players are technically "walk-ons". And most scholarships are not full scholarships. A good D1 program may offer one full scholarship per class, on average. And those will be Top 100 recruits nationally. That's 4 of their 9.9 right there, if you think about it. So the entire rest of the team (of 25 or more) shares the other 5.9 in this example. Some halves; some quarters; etc. Keep in mind that even the "walk ons" were mostly recruited athletes -- the coach made sure they got in. They may have other scholarships or financial aid; or pay full freight.
D2 schools have 9 scholarships, and D3 schools have none.
Bottom line: if you are a top player on the top team of a good club in a good league, you can play in college. It probably won't be D1, and if it is, it probably won't be on scholarship. But that does not mean it isn't worth it! Playing a sport at a high level over a long period teaches you a lot! College admissions like it! Employers like college athletes! My older son got into a very selective D3 school he never would have sniffed without soccer. So don't put all your eggs in the soccer basket, but don't act like it's only worth it if you get a full ride to a D1 school!
Anonymous
06/17/2021 22:00
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A high school team is far easier to make than a top club team.
Depends on high school team. Plenty of Arlington players don't make Yorktown varsity. In club, you can pay your way in or finesse relationships for spots on teams. Harder to do at a competitive high school.
Plenty? Are you sure you're not exaggerating? How many Arlington ECNL players tried out for Yorktown high school and didn't make the varsity squad, and how many of those were not freshmen?
Many Arlington players don't try out for high school. Of those that do, most of them make the varsity squad in their freshman year. Very few indeed don't make varsity in their sophomore year - and in those cases there's a strong argument that the high school coach made a poor decision.
In my view there is very little ability to pay or finesse your way onto an Arlington top team - it's much easier to do this in high school, where external relationships with coaches, parent boosters, family history, and preference for older kids who have been in the program in previous years all play a big role in both selection and playing time to the detriment of the overall performance of the team.
Wow. You care way, way too much about things that should not matter to you not just a little, but not at all. This is madness.
You have no idea how much I care or don't. Nor what I care about. You on the other hand, without knowing either of those things or anything else about me, chose to claim that I am mad for posting an opinion about a kid's soccer related subject on a message board dedicated to such topics. Now that is madness if you like!
Confirmation and irony all at the same time.
Anonymous
06/17/2021 21:01
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
RantingSoccerDad wrote:Rec gets better in the older age groups when players quit travel, some of them after making their high school teams.
At U-9, when the clubs take so many players (and a lot of the parent coaches move on), it can be dire.
Let's be honest...rec gets better because at those ages they have full motor skills. The kids playing rec at age 16 are kids in decent shape with some athleticism - but most (not all) are not highly skilled soccer players.
Anonymous
06/17/2021 07:40
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A high school team is far easier to make than a top club team.
Depends on high school team. Plenty of Arlington players don't make Yorktown varsity. In club, you can pay your way in or finesse relationships for spots on teams. Harder to do at a competitive high school.
Plenty? Are you sure you're not exaggerating? How many Arlington ECNL players tried out for Yorktown high school and didn't make the varsity squad, and how many of those were not freshmen?
Many Arlington players don't try out for high school. Of those that do, most of them make the varsity squad in their freshman year. Very few indeed don't make varsity in their sophomore year - and in those cases there's a strong argument that the high school coach made a poor decision.
In my view there is very little ability to pay or finesse your way onto an Arlington top team - it's much easier to do this in high school, where external relationships with coaches, parent boosters, family history, and preference for older kids who have been in the program in previous years all play a big role in both selection and playing time to the detriment of the overall performance of the team.
This is true, many Arlington players get varsity spots at Yorktown, younger players on lower teams get JV spots. Do all of them get spots? No there are a lot more HS age club soccer players than spots on the HS team.
Anonymous
06/16/2021 15:11
Subject: list the college commits from your Club for BOYS
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:A high school team is far easier to make than a top club team.
Depends on high school team. Plenty of Arlington players don't make Yorktown varsity. In club, you can pay your way in or finesse relationships for spots on teams. Harder to do at a competitive high school.
Plenty? Are you sure you're not exaggerating? How many Arlington ECNL players tried out for Yorktown high school and didn't make the varsity squad, and how many of those were not freshmen?
Many Arlington players don't try out for high school. Of those that do, most of them make the varsity squad in their freshman year. Very few indeed don't make varsity in their sophomore year - and in those cases there's a strong argument that the high school coach made a poor decision.
In my view there is very little ability to pay or finesse your way onto an Arlington top team - it's much easier to do this in high school, where external relationships with coaches, parent boosters, family history, and preference for older kids who have been in the program in previous years all play a big role in both selection and playing time to the detriment of the overall performance of the team.
Wow. You care way, way too much about things that should not matter to you not just a little, but not at all. This is madness.
You have no idea how much I care or don't. Nor what I care about. You on the other hand, without knowing either of those things or anything else about me, chose to claim that I am mad for posting an opinion about a kid's soccer related subject on a message board dedicated to such topics. Now that is madness if you like!